Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Aurelius]

What's the common denominator?

They're all odd numbers

 

[grey matter]

I think I just realized something, my theory: Dragon force is the one way ticket to permanent transformation into dragon. The only reason our 5 dragon slayers return to human form is because of antibodies prepared by parent dragons.

 

[GL_Nova]

I don't think he went DF against Natsu and Gajeel. I think it was lacrima drive

Drive has nothing to do with scales. All it did was grant an aura and make Sting’s clothes white. There were no scales.

 

[Ramen]

They're all odd numbers

 

[grey matter]

Drive has nothing to do with scales. All it did was grant an aura and make Sting’s clothes white. There were no scales.

It gave scales to Cobra tho. Was Cobra's dragon force as well? Highly doubt it

 

[Ramen]

Are we really going to have this debate again?

 

[Crimson Ice]

This is literally irrelevant, it doesn't change that Erza and Laxus are on the same tier and close in terms of power. Gildarts is still far above both.

I'm still arguing that Laxus is above her lool

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He's my favourite character, don't come @me with that downplay bs lol.

Why is Gildarts far above both? It’s been said he’s the strongest, not that the gap is large.

 

[Ramen]

Why is Gildarts far above both? It’s been said he’s the strongest, not that the gap is large.

Because I expect him to come back and so something that makes him above both by quite a bit.

 

[Demon Hunter]

when Gray stalemates Gildarts

@MUIMadara

 

[Ramen]

when Gray stalemates Gildarts

@MUIMadara

First he needs to be able to stalemate Laxus

 

[Crimson Ice]

Because I expect him to come back and so something that makes him above both by quite a bit.

That makes no sense.

 

[GL_Nova]

It gave scales to Cobra tho. Was Cobra's dragon force as well? Highly doubt it

As we’ve discussed before, we know that both Cobra and Gajeel’s dragon magic is reliant on their dragon scales. Gajeel’s entir fighting style is based on creating dragon scales, and Cobra needs them for his poison.

 

[Ramen]

That makes no sense.

It really does. Plus, Gildarts hype places himself above both too.

 

[GL_Nova]

Gildarts having a plant form implies that Mashima is about to show us just how big the gap really is. Personally I want to see Gildarts against the top tier of the guild. I’d rather see a 1v1 or 2v1 as opposed to him vs the Guild. Only 2 who should really try are currently in route. An 1 is unconscious.

 

[Crimson Ice]

It really does. Plus, Gildarts hype places himself above both too.

It doesn’t. And read my post, never said Gildarts was below them, you are just exaggerating the gap.

 

[Ramen]

It doesn’t. And read my post, never said Gildarts was below them, you are just exaggerating the gap.

I'm really not. Doesn't matter though.

 

[Crimson Ice]

I'm really not. Doesn't matter though.

I mean you are, but it doesn't matter though, you're right on that.

 

[sharkai]

btw, I don't know where people got the idea that Erza was on Laxus' level since forever.

it's been pretty clear during Tenrou arc that she wasn't.

@Axiomus my man, bring them some hard facts about that

I am gonna make a wild guess that the idea didnt come from the same place where your idea of mirajane > erza came

and yet you voted for Natsu and Mirajane


anyway, Gray can take down Natsu.

Mirajane will take down Erza.

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Yeah, Laxus completely overwhelmed her in base. She gave herself an amp, and Laxus did exactly what he’s been doing since he fought Natsu and Gajeel. He met her amp with his own, kept the gap alive and hit her with overwhelming force. Something he comments on, Erza is not the kind of opponent to take lightly. Hence why he matches her new technique with his own. An couldnt? She literally spend the entire chapter commenting on how much power he’s hitting her with. She has to
pull out all her trump cards just to stay in the game.

This is the downplay I’m talking about. Did you notice how my argument can easily and healthily include all attributes of the fight, and still hold true. You claim you don’t see how it affected him, but we know he used a secret art, and it’s the only one he used this arc. An since we’re interjecting things we think are obvious. Having already spent magic, using his trump card immediately to deal with Erza is good sense. Especially if I know the kinda asspulls she’s capable of.

Erza is clearly on the same top tier as Laxus & Gildarts occupy now. She has been since Alvarez’s end. She also clearly needs an amp to close the gap between her and Laxus in base. An another amp to close the gap once Laxus uses his own amp. These are facts. There’s still a gap between them. Not massive enough that Erza’s out of the battle, but she knows it’s not her fight to lose. She gunna have to work for it. Laxus is back up, blowing enemies away, and carrying Erza. There has been nothing to suggest that this was the WW. So for now that’s headcannon. Though mainly it’s irrelevant, as this point could just as easily have been the speech Erza made at the end of the fight. At this point the only real question left is what’s the gap between them and Gildarts.

Both erza and laxus got two amps
Dragon seal
And fire and ice sword (ised only once when not serious)

Red lightening mode
Blood bloost

Yes, laxus is stronger, the gap is such that laxus cant put non pof erza down, no matter what he does.
Would it has been difference if laxus didnt fight kiria and erza was serious from the start? Who knows. All we know laxus is this much stronger and erza never thought laxus was as strong as herself

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Because, even after getting amped by 2nd origin, Erza had high diff against Kagura, while Laxus extreme diff'd Jura.
Laxus also low diff'd Tempesta, who is around LFD Natsu tier. I don't see Erza low diffing LFD Natsu tiers

Just wanted to add
Erza never used her 2nd origin against kagura
And laxus couldnt low diff natsu even in fighting festival arc

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Yes, it is POF. Difference is Natsu taps into his emotions nearly every single time he fights a big boss, and Gray's only tapped into his darkness when he thought Juvia died. You can almost say that the reason why Natsu is so strong is because he is so good at tapping into POF.

I dont like this
Wouldnt this mean before the first time skip, natsu needed pof to just beat gajeel

 

[Demon Hunter]

I am gonna make a wild guess that the idea didnt come from the same place where your idea of mirajane > erza came

Thanks for bringing up something absolutely not relevant to this discussion

 

[Axiomus]

I dont like this
Wouldnt this mean before the first time skip, natsu needed pof to just beat gajeel

Yes, it would. He did use POF to beat Gajeel. He gave a nakama speech and all.