Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Axiomus]

In the anime, water did stop flowing, Just rewatched it.

My point is that God Slaying magic is far superior to Dragon Slaying magic. The nature of the magic is completely different, with God's magic being superior. This suggests that Gods being superior to Dragons is the norm, not the exception.

We only know of one God in it's true power, Ankhseram. He can solo the verse in an instant if he wishes to. Your judgement is based on other two.
- Dimaria's was a takeover, and the power of the takeover depends on the MP of the user, see how Satan Soul's power changed over the series as Mira herself improved.
- Second one was a summoning, whose power depends on the summoner, and Arlock was weak. In fact, if we factor in his (and his guild's) weak MP and see how strong Ikatsunagi was (no sold base Natsu's attack) inspite of the weak summoners, it's logical to assume that the real Ikatsunagi is an absolute monster of a powerhouse.

Watch it again. CSK doesn't make the water stop flowing. He lifts a bunch of it when he got summoned. Then it dropped when he disappeared. This doesn't imply time manipulation. This is really no different than when characters break the ground and cause rocks to float with their MP.

How is god slaying magic superior to dragon slaying magic? Half of the dragon slayers in the series can solo the 3 god slayers that we know of. The only advantage that a god slayer has against a dragon slayer is that their elements can't be eaten without emptying out your MP reserves. This is useless if your elements are not the same.

Ankhseram is the outlier here. We've seen Chronos fight and we've seen Ikusatsunagi fight, but we don't know anything about Ankhseram. Dimaria literally has Chronos' Soul, which means she has access to all of her powers. MP might affect how long she can sustain the takeover, but that was never really an issue in the first place.

Again, that's not how summoning works. We know for a fact that stuff like Lucy's spirits have their own magic power that is irrespective of the summoner. When Loke's first owner died, Loke kept himself in the human world with his own MP. Having summoner lessens the burden of keeping the gates open and also makes the spirit stronger, but the spirits have a baseline stat that they simply cannot fall below. No matter how weak Loke's summoner is, he cannot get weaker than when he's keeping himself summoned. Ikusatsunagi, if he works anything like Lucy's spirits, will have his own baseline stats. If he tries to summon himself to the human world, he would be even less powerful than when Arlock summoned him.

 

[grey matter]

Watch it again. CSK doesn't make the water stop flowing. He lifts a bunch of it when he got summoned. Then it dropped when he disappeared. This doesn't imply time manipulation. This is really no different than when characters break the ground and cause rocks to float with their MP.

How is god slaying magic superior to dragon slaying magic? Half of the dragon slayers in the series can solo the 3 god slayers that we know of. The only advantage that a god slayer has against a dragon slayer is that their elements can't be eaten without emptying out your MP reserves. This is useless if your elements are not the same.

Ankhseram is the outlier here. We've seen Chronos fight and we've seen Ikusatsunagi fight, but we don't know anything about Ankhseram. Dimaria literally has Chronos' Soul, which means she has access to all of her powers. MP might affect how long she can sustain the takeover, but that was never really an issue in the first place.

Again, that's not how summoning works. We know for a fact that stuff like Lucy's spirits have their own magic power that is irrespective of the summoner. When Loke's first owner died, Loke kept himself in the human world with his own MP. Having summoner lessens the burden of keeping the gates open and also makes the spirit stronger, but the spirits have a baseline stat that they simply cannot fall below. No matter how weak Loke's summoner is, he cannot get weaker than when he's keeping himself summoned. Ikusatsunagi, if he works anything like Lucy's spirits, will have his own baseline stats. If he tries to summon himself to the human world, he would be even less powerful than when Arlock summoned him.

He stopped it, and then raised it (because he wanted space lol)

How is it stronger? We saw in Natsu vs Zancrow. Zancrow's fire overpowered Natsu's for the pure reason that he had God flames, their stats were around the same level.
Yeah, they can solo because their stats are stronger. These stats aren't dependent on DS magic. There are others like Jellol, Gray and Erza who are super strong as well inspite of not being DS. As well as many Spriggans. Stats =/= magic.
That's why I keep saying, give a DS and GS same stats, and GS wins. This is proof that God's magic is superior.

Come on dude, I mentioned Satan Soul for the specific reason to prove that takeover's power is dependent on the mage's MP. So what if Dimaria has Cronos's soul, Mira has Satan Soul's soul as well. We see the same stuff here, SS in x792 >>>>>> SS in x784, period, even though it's the same soul takeover. It's not just the time.

Loke summoned currently by Lucy >>> Loke summoned in x784 by Lucy. Based on feats also. It suggests that summoner's MP plays a role.
Loke couldn't bring his true power in human world. He can sustain himself even through attrition, that doesn't mean that's the power he possess in his own world.

 

[Axiomus]

He stopped it, and then raised it (because he wanted space lol)

How is it stronger? We saw in Natsu vs Zancrow. Zancrow's fire overpowered Natsu's for the pure reason that he had God flames, their stats were around the same level.
Yeah, they can solo because their stats are stronger. These stats aren't dependent on DS magic. There are others like Jellol, Gray and Erza who are super strong as well inspite of not being DS. As well as many Spriggans. Stats =/= magic.
That's why I keep saying, give a DS and GS same stats, and GS wins. This is proof that God's magic is superior.

Come on dude, I mentioned Satan Soul for the specific reason to prove that takeover's power is dependent on the mage's MP. So what if Dimaria has Cronos's soul, Mira has Satan Soul's soul as well. We see the same stuff here, SS in x792 >>>>>> SS in x784, period, even though it's the same soul takeover. It's not just the time.

Loke summoned currently by Lucy >>> Loke summoned in x784 by Lucy. Based on feats also. It suggests that summoner's MP plays a role.
Loke couldn't bring his true power in human world. He can sustain himself even through attrition, that doesn't mean that's the power he possess in his own world.

I'm not sure what you're seeing lol. The water just began swirling to his location. Or more precisely, the water turned into his physical form. CSK didn't need the space in the first place.

Zancrow was simply stronger than Natsu at the time. Zancrow had the advantage of being able to eat Natsu's flames easily, while Natsu had to empty out his magic reserves to eat Zancrow's. This advantage is useless once you're facing someone with a different element. Someone like WSD Sting would solo Orga, Chelia, and Zancrow combined. Ignoring stats is the wrong way to go about it. Any dragon slayer that can take down a dragon is going to have insanely high stats. You'd have to nerf a Dragon Slayer to the point where they can't effectively slay a dragon to put them on par with the current god slayers. And yes, a dragon slayer's stats do come from their dragon slaying magic. It literally does. That's not to say you can't have high stats with other magics, but we don't see other magics running around at with Acnologia tiers. Or even Ignia-powered Natsu tiers. If we're talking about God Slaying magic, we don't even have a Laxus tier. Moreover, Chelia used all the magic she could have ever obtained in her entire lifetime. So this is her absolute peak. She's still outclassed.

Honestly, Mirajane hasn't done anything with Satan Soul that's truly much more impressive than what she's been able to do with it before. Except maybe beating Jacob, but I don't rate Jacob's durability very high in the first place. For the sake of argument, let's say Satan Soul is now significantly stronger than it was pre-timeskip. I'm sure that the demon that Mirajane took over for Satan Soul initially is nowhere near as powerful as Mirajane is now. I'm not sure what the argument even is... Could Dimaria make Chronos Soul stronger if she had more MP? Sure. But that's no reason to assume Chronos is stronger than what we've seen from Dimaria.

I never said summoners didn't play a role. They do. They take the burden of keeping the gates open as well as make the spirits stronger. That's precisely why Ikusatsunagi should be stronger with Arlock. It doesn't matter how strong they are "in their own world". The bottom line is that if they cannot be summoned to the real world to beat a dragon....Then they're not stronger than a dragon. On the other side of the coin: Acnologia can eat all the magic of the rift of time, punch a hole in reality, split his power in half, and still be the strongest character in both dimensions.

 

[sharkai]

The problem I have is if Every1 believes that Laxus>erza why Is this till a debate?

No one is talking about that

Its the same
Me trying to convince reasonable folks that start of series laxus cant low diff start of series erza

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even though i didn't like laxus hype lately and i debated with @GL_Nova alot about that but facts is facts in the start of FT until tenrou the gap between erza and laxus was so huuuge and from GMG after she got SO the gap start to get reduced until she became in his tier with her new buffs in 100YQ with laxus being slightly above her and anyone says that erza was in laxus level from the start he is so much biased to erza.

and i'd like to add something to the ones saying that erza can take both gajeel and natsu at the same time pre TS, a serious natsu without comedy involved can give her high diff battle and actully have a chance in taking her too so gajeel+natsu they stomp her, laxus overpower them both erza not doing that any day

Why do you think the gap was huge

Blinded Aria low diffed natsu
Wrecked erza one shot full powered aria

If you dont like this example
Then
In os arc, first time os appeared
Racer was enough to put down natsu, gray (with angel input) and three other fodders alone
To put down erza, cobra, racer and hoteye (with sneak attack) were required.

And with ton of portrayal of erza being far above natus. Why would the gap between erza and laxus be huge, even after marakrov though erza could take him

 

[GL_Nova]

I am shocked that Mashima stuck to not giving DF to second gens. You would think that would have been the power he obtained instead of RL lol.

Mashima stated that he would do next gen if the fans wanted it (which I think he knows they do). Who do you guys think would be in the top 10 of the guild when they are full fledged adults?

Laxus has DF, we saw it in his original arc.

Honestly. I don’t see it shifting a ton except for Natsu being on top without power ups.

1) Natsu (Maybe in base, def power up)
2) Gildarts (If still alive, bc of superior hax)
3) Laxus (Should be in his prime as Master)
4) Erza (Will be looked at as top Ace)
5) Gray (won’t have the forms to give him the edge)
6) Gajeel (same)
7) Mira
8) Wendy
9) Elfman
10) Lucy

 

[sharkai]

Holy fuck, insane Erza wank going on here.

@GL_Nova
Stop man, it's pointless.

Lol
Seriously man
You who thinks
Serena is gildarts tier, because he didnt face fairy tail memebers.
You shouldnt talk about wank mate

Yep, this exactly.
Initially, the gap was huge. The gap between Laxus and Erza kept decreasing as time progressed. And only by this arc, did Erza finally reach Laxus tier, that too with quite a few buffs (unbuffed Erza still gets mid-high diff'd IMO).

Even as a Laxus fan, I feel he's kinda overhyped in this forum (not anymore lol, I guess those guys left after the writing in the past few chapters lmao). But oh boi, the Erza wank here is next level lol.

Wank has always been on laxus side. This is a fact. Check power thread or battle threads before erza vs laxus or erza vs irene. The people thought erza was a fodder then. I think even you thought alverzec gray could beat alverzec erza, that was the level of anti wank for erza.
Even now, with no proof, you some how assume erza external power boost (lol) is more of a power boost than laxus internal power boost.

Meanwhile mine you believe is wank
Me seeing erza one shotting aria made me think there is a huge gap between erza and natsu (wank?)

Me seeing racer take out natsu and gray while erza had to be taken out by cobra, racer and hoteye made me think there is a huge gape between erza and natsu (wank?)

Me seeing in comedic scenes erza treating natsu same as gildarts does (wank?)

Me asking dont compare wrecked erza to 100% laxus is unreasonable? O the other made up for weakness. Would you do same for laxus, of course not (in a hypothetical scenario where laxus only has 5% magic power, cant use lightening body and has support of four levy tier characters, would you consider this above 100% laxus)

Me saying post ts jellal performance against os (an out dated villians) is not comparable to erza in os arc, is me wanking

The fact is, our prediction was right, laxus barely won. He didnt mid diff erza, he barelly won. All while erza saying laxus improved alot. Hell its literal cannon now that pre ts erza >> pre ts laxus (atleast for erza)

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Highly doubt it

Nobody except one person has claimed he blitz Acno. Nobody mentioned he could defeat August

You clearly are. There are quite a few more I saw here.

Literally nobody said any of those except the Gildarts one (and I clearly remember you saying Erza is on par with Gildarts lol, so miss me with that), it's all in your head. As for Gildarts, currently we don't know, since Gildarts hasn't made an appearance yet (as for my opinion, Gildarts would mid-high diff Laxus). But nobody is arguing that he'son par with Gildarts in the past.

Quite easily:
- In TOH: Erza needed POF to beat Ikaruga, someone quite easily below Jellal. And an additional POF to defeat nerfed Jellal (nerfed Jellal caught her in dark sphere and Erza nearly gave up there before getting friendship).Note, this is what nerfed Jellal did, full power Jellal is far stronger. We know that full power Jellal and Laxus are around same level, so that scales to Laxus
- Jellal one shotted Natsu with a GC while holding back (due to being afraid of damage to tower). This scales to Laxus. Erza cannot one shot Natsu in a serious fight, not happening. Jellal's feats scale to Laxus
- Laxus one shotted Gajeel and Natsu with a roar. Erza can't do that in a serious fight.
- Laxus did better against Hades than entire team Natsu, buffed by Wendy, combined. Even if you make the argument that team Natsu was injured (injuries never seem to affect main cast, but just entertaining that argument for the sake of it), their combined effort, while enchanted, still wouldn't be below full power Erza
- Laxus defeated Jura, while Mira thought Erza and herself couldn't beat him two v one. You might claim that these are just words, but the manga portrayal regarding Jura is still valid
- Erza was Kyouka tier in stats, while Laxus low diff'd Tempesta who could give LFD Natsu high diff.
- Laxus was about to gravely injure Ajeel with a single attack, who would've beaten Erza if not for Bisca's help (in before "Marin helped Ajeel", Ajeel didn't do damage and was just gloating while Marin's magic was effective. Re-read the fight if you don't believe me). Even if you don't believe August's statement regarding this, the portrayal is still there.

It's not like we have any feats from Jellal which can be compared (there is literally zero means by which we can compare Jellal with Laxus or Erza in this arc based on feats), but by portrayal (which is the only means to compare since feats aren't comparable) he's Laxus level and hence above Erza, even if it's barely. If it were to count, Erza couldn't break free from his bind snake, which he casually casted on her.
She's not on par with Laxus, she got many external buffs in that fight, which I'm sure you'll protest. And Laxus still came out on top, after defeating Kyria just before. He still running around, while Erza can barely even stand, which implies that Laxus laid down because of exhaustion while Erza went down due to injuries and exhaustion.
Makarov didn't say anything, he was just hoping Erza could fight Laxus. He hoped the same for Natsu too.
Laxus acknowledged Mystogan as his equal, while he scoffed at Erza. While, all Mystogan said was, to not underestimate Erza.

Again because of laxus wank, no one is correcting you. Erza did not need pof to beat jellal. She low diffed. Proof

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wn9f5_BDW-E/XdnR0WsP0KI/AAAAAAAAmdY/JIBl9Hn7R6g3YyxhuYehVBKFo9Tm7gzPQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/002.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-okqLogFM...eOwZIR0_Wcq5CotbizdACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/003.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qBB4veSj...cDU94htoPGg7K1pL5UgACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/004.webp

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https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FGZJIiQhLQY/XdnR1Umf5_I/AAAAAAAAmds/g6-Ju0XB2qkuEK0myqboqLsZYFNJb6tKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/006.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2jCWPngE05U/XdnR1jKhFGI/AAAAAAAAmdw/y663tiF8jWgIDPG0H9nBZ9NGAHstwHVpACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/007.webp

Erza already one shot aria. Aria shouldn't be tiers below gajeel

5% laxus without lightening body plus four levy tier characters> 100% laxus
If not, maybe dont use this comperison

Minerva put kagura and jura in the same list, damn

Erza fought irene while laxus fought wahl, i wonder why arent you saying alverzec erza >>> Alvarez laxus (how is this different than gmg)

Interesting how you forgot koyoka external boost, you never seems to forget erza s

Marakrov thought erza might do it, alreafy put her in laxus tier. Yes, if natsu released his true power df natsu (markarov would have been told about this by erza)

 

[GL_Nova]

I think Wendy would push out both Gray and Mira from the top 5 lol. Lil loli is gonna be broken by the time she is an adult.


It's a misconception due to the scale pattern he had on his arms. If he used DF in that fight he would have rolfstomped not only Natsu and Gajeel, but the entire guild bar Makarov and Gildarts lol.

I want him to do it just to see how everyone progressed as adults lol. Maybe a small miniseries. Don't need them to go and boruto it by making the adults weak af just to prop up the new gen lol.

What misconception? He literally just got done taking the rest of the guild out with just his subordinates. An he has the appropriate markings. Provide another reason for him to grow scales and get a massive power boost bro.

 

[grey matter]

Lol
Seriously man
You who thinks
Serena is gildarts tier, because he didnt face fairy tail memebers.
You shouldnt talk about wank mate



Wank has always been on laxus side. This is a fact. Check power thread or battle threads before erza vs laxus or erza vs irene. The people thought erza was a fodder then. I think even you thought alverzec gray could beat alverzec erza, that was the level of anti wank for erza.
Even now, with no proof, you some how assume erza external power boost (lol) is more of a power boost than laxus internal power boost.

Meanwhile mine you believe is wank
Me seeing erza one shotting aria made me think there is a huge gap between erza and natsu (wank?)

Me seeing racer take out natsu and gray while erza had to be taken out by cobra, racer and hoteye made me think there is a huge gape between erza and natsu (wank?)

Me seeing in comedic scenes erza treating natsu same as gildarts does (wank?)

Me asking dont compare wrecked erza to 100% laxus is unreasonable? O the other made up for weakness. Would you do same for laxus, of course not (in a hypothetical scenario where laxus only has 5% magic power, cant use lightening body and has support of four levy tier characters, would you consider this above 100% laxus)

Me saying post ts jellal performance against os (an out dated villians) is not comparable to erza in os arc, is me wanking

The fact is, our prediction was right, laxus barely won. He didnt mid diff erza, he barelly won. All while erza saying laxus improved alot. Hell its literal cannon now that pre ts erza >> pre ts laxus (atleast for erza)

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Again because of laxus wank, no one is correcting you. Erza did not need pof to beat jellal. She low diffed. Proof

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wn9f5_BDW-E/XdnR0WsP0KI/AAAAAAAAmdY/JIBl9Hn7R6g3YyxhuYehVBKFo9Tm7gzPQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/002.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-okqLogFM...eOwZIR0_Wcq5CotbizdACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/003.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-qBB4veSj...cDU94htoPGg7K1pL5UgACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/004.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-xImaa0tEqLQ/XdnR1G3vO4I/AAAAAAAAmdo/Qm1ssByq6U876U8J9jZRt_GT6WPsR8-RACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/005.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-FGZJIiQhLQY/XdnR1Umf5_I/AAAAAAAAmds/g6-Ju0XB2qkuEK0myqboqLsZYFNJb6tKgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/006.webp

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2jCWPngE05U/XdnR1jKhFGI/AAAAAAAAmdw/y663tiF8jWgIDPG0H9nBZ9NGAHstwHVpACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/007.webp

Erza already one shot aria. Aria shouldn't be tiers below gajeel

5% laxus without lightening body plus four levy tier characters> 100% laxus
If not, maybe dont use this comperison

Minerva put kagura and jura in the same list, damn

Erza fought irene while laxus fought wahl, i wonder why arent you saying alverzec erza >>> Alvarez laxus (how is this different than gmg)

Interesting how you forgot koyoka external boost, you never seems to forget erza s

Marakrov thought erza might do it, alreafy put her in laxus tier. Yes, if natsu released his true power df natsu (markarov would have been told about this by erza)

I told you man, I'm done with this. We've gone through this multiple times in a circle, not interested in this again. Though I will admit that you've corrrected me on Jellal vs Erza round 1, my opinion on this was based on the anime, I've not read manga until GMG, but then again most of his power was with Seigrain.

As for Serena, it's due to portrayal. And the fact that him, as a freaking Historia at a mere fraction of his full power, managed to tussle with Gildarts, give him minor injuries, and gave team Natsu trouble for a brief period of time. He also no diff'd Jura, a Makarov tier character (whose nerfed form needed a FDKM punch from Natsu), and 3 mages tiers above that. It's fine if you disagree.

 

[LaGOAT]

@sharkai even if that is true (I never seen it Any1 say laxus could low diff erza) u believe that Laxus=erza thoughtout the series. how come u accept that Laxus>erza when laxus HAS ALWAYS BEEN stronger than erza

 

[GL_Nova]

You're right, Jellal's better than him. Has more titles, wizard saint, guild master/founder CS, ruler of tower of Heaven. Put the continent on notice, while the other was a spoiled brat who threw a tantrum for rights to the guild. Actually served for his crimes. And lastly has a queen.

So that’s why you like him better but where are the feats showing him superior?

 

[Aurelius]

So that’s why you like him better but where are the feats showing him superior?

That's the joke man. In response to Madara's question, I had to put something down if not feats

 

[Ramen]

That's the joke man. In response to Madara's question, I had to put something down if not feats

Die......

 

[Ramen]

This Laxus vs Erza debate is becoming really annoying.

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@Axiomus @Kiki New poll?

 

[Kiki]

This Laxus vs Erza debate is becoming really annoying.

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@Axiomus @Kiki New poll?

but it's recently changed

what's your suggestion?

 

[Ramen]

but it's recently changed

what's your suggestion?

• Who gets the next big fight?​
• How does the Aldoron arc end?​
• Who gets the next power-up?​
• What elements will the other Diabolos members have?​

Nobody is really discussing PL's right now since nothing big is happening.

 

[Aurelius]

Changed vote to Wendy and now she equals Mira, Gray, and > Lucy

 

[sharkai]

@sharkai even if that is true (I never seen it Any1 say laxus could low diff erza) u believe that Laxus=erza thought the series how come u accept that Laxus>erza when laxus HAS ALWAYS BEEN stronger than erza

Nice point
I never believed erza was > laxus.
All statement pointed erza to be around laxus.
So ff laxus could have beaten ff erza high diff. That what i believe. They were around each, laxus could have been stronger. But gap wasnt big, like erza and natsu (which was shown many times)

Erza improved
So did laxus
Trying to be unbaised, i am assuming here erza improved as much as laxus (this is not cannon, in the first time skip they got equal boost, the next two time skip, increase is laxus power was mentioned alot while erza wasnt mentioned at all)

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based on feats portrayal and hype

aria was a bad match up for natsu and natsu already beated gajeel who is stronger than aria.

cobra matched her and dodged her attacks to the rest involved to end the fight fast couse she was the only one standing.

erza said multiple times that natsu is on her level and if i remember correctly they fought but the fight get interrupted by cuncil from what was shown before interrupt they were close.

laxus vs hades and team natsu vs hades
laxus did better alone then what the team did,
and mira saying that her and erza together can't beat jura who laxus beat all of that show that there was a huge gap.

and for what makarov said he also said that natsu might beat laxus but what happened was the opposite and with the help with gajeel too.

How was aria bad matchup for natsu?
How large is the gap between aria and gajeel?

Erza didnt know cobra could read her mind. But unlike natsu and rest she could block racer just fine. How this portrayal not worth anything? Natsu was taken out by racer, why wasnt erza?

Erza also believed natsu could handle laxus. So if erza statements are right? Shouldn't it be laxus = erza = natsu

Obviously laxus did better against hades, though not that better. Do you know, gildarts finished his something like fight 30 seconds after erza. Do you also know, that gildarts couldnt even move till hades lost.
Jura like all bad guys hype, (when compared with good guys) is wrong. Do you know, phantom s class mages were said to be equal to fairy tail s class. Do you know markarov thought natsu couldnt handle any of the 7 kins. Do you know markarov thought ajeel alone was too much for team A. Do you also know, kagura was said to be equal to or stronger than erza.

How come, all feats, portrayal and hype pointing at erza and natsu can be dismissed by just one or two statements. Yet, laxus who has no hype of being above erza (no one in manga has ever said laxus is stronger than erza), no feats above erza (laxus has never beaten anyone who couldnt be beaten by erza) is so much, i dont know, important to the story?

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This Laxus vs Erza debate is becoming really annoying.
Nobody is really discussing PL's right now since nothing big is happening.

Since no one is is discussing pls that is why erza and laxus is a topic.

If you have a another good one, i will happily sh!ft, but erza and laxus is just a better topic. These two mages have been here since the beginning of the manga, and were kept away feom from each other. Thus alot can be talked about here

Maybe you should try gajeel vs gray topic, from the start of the series till now
I dont know any other with this much potential.

 

[Ramen]

Maybe you should try gajeel vs gray topic, from the start of the series till now
I dont know any other with this much potential.

Gajeel has always been stronger than Gray imo. Tartaros made them equal, Both at their peak Gajeel > Gray.

 

[Jko]

Changed vote to Wendy and now she equals Mira, Gray, and > Lucy

I've voted for Wendy since the start. The true heir to the King of Dragons.

 

[LaGOAT]

@sharkai i never said u said erza>laxus I said u thought she was an equal which isn’t true if u beleive that Laxus can beat erza high diff it means laxus>erza simple it always been like that till now so rather if the gap is big or not the fact is laxus has always been stronger than erza btw gray implied that Laxus>erza