Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Verter]

Gin speech has nothing to with FT. So don't bother bringing it to FT verse.

It's good example.

Immunity ~ Kyoka Suigetsu.

The reason they were "unbeatable" is not "magic immunity" or "kyoka suigesty" alone, but it's simply they're just to strong for others.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It's not excuse, it's reality.

W.o. plot, a lot of main character did not survive to end in their series.

The plot is nothing but a cheap excuse from you nothing else since you don't have any other way to explain Acno pathetic display. He was just pathetic. Deal with it.

 

[Verter]

You just it was FH that disintegrated him that's all while the manga proves otherwise with Lucy and Gray's statement which I will take over you statements.

We back to your eyes. Actually, it wasn't my words.

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The plot is nothing but a cheap excuse from you nothing else since you don't have any other way to explain Acno pathetic display. He was just pathetic. Deal with it.

If someone is so stupid, so be it.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

It's good example.

Immunity ~ Kyoka Suigetsu.

The reason they were "unbeatable" is not "magic immunity" or "kyoka suigesty" alone, but it's simply they're just to strong for others.

Don't bother bringing bleach and other stuff into FT verse. I am not those guys who compare other volumes.

 

[aymen24]

As for me, I do not agree with the case that the seal did not affect acno's power

Tenroujima team.... the water dragon.....Aldron ...

Their strength froze after the sealing
What makes acno different !!!! ????

Actually I want evidence that he's not affected

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

If someone is so stupid, so be it.

Sure if someone is nothing but a hypocrite who uses plot ass excuse to hide Acno's embarrassment but continues to make fun of Aldoron not being able to kill the main case.

 

[Verter]

Don't bother bringing bleach and other stuff into FT verse. I am not those guys who compare other volumes.

Again about someone manners, You comment my discussion with another guy here with this topic, I did not say it to you.
So you want to force me "about what i should discuss with others" ?

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Sure if someone is nothing but a hypocrite who uses plot ass excuse to hide Acno's embarrassment but continues to make fun of Aldoron not being able to kill the main case.

It's simple.

Main antagonist =/= side villian.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

ou say about eyes, right?
"The only thing that matters is Zeref got cursed and soon after Mavis" -> 300 years is "soon after" ?
* About how someone read/know canon manga.

I don't know how unwise need to be to not understand even after so much time and words.

Life and Death magic existed before Zeref. And it was called forbidden before Zeref.
The thing that it was forbidden simply prove it.
Because if it was created by Zeref, how his tutor could be able to say: "so you're practising forbidden arts?".

It maybe big surprise for you, but Zeref was not 1st human and he was not even 1st wizard. There were humans and wizards before him.
And it's logically to suggest someone wizard had learnt Life and Death magic, used, and after some circumstances society decided to call that magic as "forbidden".

It's like the example for human history. Long-long-long time ago ppl had noticed that kids by close-related parents are defected. They called it "incest" and "forbidden". That's all. Topic is closed.

Now, we return to Zeref and Ankseram curse. If that type of "illness" existed before Zeref. ofc Zeref is not its creator.

People did not know what is it exactly and how it's appear so called it as "God Ankseram anger".
Back to history, Long time ago ppl thought plague is "God anger" too.

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Now return to fanfics and headcanon.

Mashima DID NOT even once said that "character God Ankseram exists". It's reality.
It simply may mean it's just like "ancient Greeks who worship Olympic Gods: Zeus, Mars, etc". Did they ever existed ?
It's also may mean God Ankseram exists.

But again, anyone from us know it. because Mashima never give answer on it (I'm actually tired to continuously say it).

Zeref's curse is not something he learned. Mashima doesn't have to directly say he exists or not. When Zeref and Mavis said that they were indeed cursed by him. So why I should bother with your headcanons and fanfics.

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It's simple.

Main antagonist =/= side villian.

The cheap argument that's all. Why don't you come with something better? The only thing you have is your favorite plot ass excuse. Doesn't matter the side or main villains. In your own words, Trash is trash after nothing more. At least we know this side Villian can destroy a ship.

 

[Verter]

Zeref's curse is not something he learned. Mashima doesn't have to directly say he exists or not. When Zeref and Mavis said that they were indeed cursed by him. So why I should bother with your headcanons and fanfics.

I demand the prove here xD

If we say about canon, in canon Zeref learnt all possible types of magic to revive his brother (Natsu). Inc. Life and Death magic. In result he received "Ankseram curse".

Similar example, dragon slayers with abusing dragon slayer magic become dragons themselves (because magic changes their bodies). Or you believe "they became dragons because "Dragon God cursed them?"

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The cheap argument that's all. Why don't you come with something better? The only thing you have is your favorite plot ass excuse. Doesn't matter the side or main villains. In your own words, Trash is trash after nothing more. At least we know this side Villian can destroy a ship.

The backstory of that "Acno level' says "he ran as rat with fear by Acno" And >100 years just resting and "consume nutrients"

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

If we say about canon, in canon Zeref leart all possible type of magic to revive his brother (Natsu). It's Life and Death magic. In result he received "Ankseram curse".

Similar example, dragon slayer with abusing dragon slayer magic becomes dragons themselves (because magic changes their bodies). Or you believe "they became dragons because "Dragon God cursed them?"

lol, dragons slayers and Zeref powers have no connection. Zeref was cursed and DS turn into dragons due to overuse of DS magic. Don't try to connect two different things and try to make something out of it. I don't have to prove anything when Zeref himself has mentioned God Ankeresam.

 

[Verter]

lol, dragons slayers and Zeref powers have no connection. Zeref was cursed and DS turn into dragons due to overuse of DS magic. Don't try to connect two different things and try to make something out of it. I don't have to prove anything when Zeref himself has mentioned God Ankeresam.

So, no prove. You're just troll?

Zeref's curse is not something he learned. Mashima doesn't have to directly say he exists or not. When Zeref and Mavis said that they were indeed cursed by him. So why I should bother with your headcanons and fanfics.

I repeat my demand for prove on this statement,

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

The backstory of that "Acno level' says "he ran as rat with fear by Acno" And >100 years just resting and "consume nutrients"

He came to Guilitina after he was injured by him to heal and rest. Incompetent trash just couldn't finish the job like Animus that's all. Oh, he might have too slow gone after Aldoron since trash was toyed by ship as well.

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So, no prove. You're just troll?

Why should have when Zeref has mentioned him even before arc starts. Why don't you prove something from the manga that he doesn't exist? Oh yeah don't write your fanfics. I am not interested in him.

 

[Verter]

Why should have when Zeref has mentioned him even before arc starts. Why don't you prove something from the manga that he doesn't exist? Oh yeah don't write your fanfics. I am not interested in him.

3rd time. I demand prove with scan(s) for it:

Zeref's curse is not something he learned. Mashima doesn't have to directly say he exists or not. When Zeref and Mavis said that they were indeed cursed by him. So why I should bother with your headcanons and fanfics.

 

[Demon Hunter]

my opinion on Zerefs topic is this

Spoiler

 

[Verter]

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Well, it seems it's meaningless to except anything by troll person,

It's exactly how Zeref got his curse:

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Well, it seems it's meaningless to except anything by troll person,

It's exactly how Zeref got his curse:

This proves something.? This video mentions God Ankeseram. Even Zeref mentions him and you expect me to believe that your fanfic is right. Lol, wonder who troll here really is..

 

[Verter]

This proves something.? This video mentions God Ankeseram. Even Zeref mentions him and you expect me to believe that your fanfic is right. Lol, wonder who troll here really is.

Because they worshipped "God Ankseram", so all things they connected to "God Ankseram"
Ancient Greek worshipped Zeus, so they believed thunder and lightning were directly created by Zeus.
Some ppl worshipped Shiva, so with their luck stories they said "Oh, Shiva!", with their tragedies "Why you did this for me, Shiva?"

There's word for it - "paganism".

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Because they worshipped "God Ankseram", so all things they connected to "God Ankseram"
Ancient Greek worshipped Zeus, so they believed thunder and lightning were directly created by Zeus.
Some ppl worshipped Shiva, so with their luck stories they said "Oh, Shiva!", with their tragedies "Why you did this for me, Shiva?"

There's word for it - "paganism".

Don't bother bringing real-world examples to FT Verse. Zeref practiced life-death magic and he was cursed for that. If Zeref learned that curse on his own. He wouldn't have bothered saying God Ankeseram Cursed him as simple as that. Zeref curse is not something that he learned on his own.

 

[Verter]

Don't bother bringing real-world examples to FT Verse. Zeref practiced life-death magic and he was cursed for that. If Zeref learned that curse on his own. He wouldn't have bothered saying God Ankeseram Cursed him as simple as that. Zeref curse is not something that he learned on his own.

who cursed him? Manga/anime did not show anyone cursed him.

He was pissed by his tutor - "you brother never back alive... you will be expelled". His mentally state was broken and it triggers his curse.

I previously so m. times said "how you are able to be so unwise".. well. i need to say it again.

Zeref NEVER learnt this curse. Zeref learnt Life and Death magic. Which was called as "forbidden".

As result of his learning (abuse Life and Death magic) with addition of his mentally state as its trigger, he got that he got.
It's easy suggest that its mechanics same with process of turning DS into dragons.

On other hand, canon did show any indication that anyone used anything on him (curse him), as well as with Mavis case (she got curse after abusing INCOMPLETE Fairy Law).

Macarov and Laxus who used "safe version of Fairy Law" did not get Ankseram curse.

P.S. Why Zeref should make "new name" ? He's 400+ yo. In his era ppl worshipped Ankseram, so he simply call it Ankseram wraith/curse.

P.S. (2) You still did not link any proves for your previous statement

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

who cursed him? Manga/anime did not show anyone cursed him.

Who cares. Manga did say he was cursed by Ankerseram that's all that matter.

P.S. (2) You still did not link any proves for your previous statement

So why don't you post something that doesn't involve God Ankeseram and something that shows Zeref actually learned his curse. If he learned his curse he wouldn't have said God Ankheseram cursed him. Instead, you write fanfics that even Mashima himself hasn't wrote.

previously so m. times said "how you are able to be so unwise".. well. i need to say it again.

The same can be said for how can you be unwise and ignore what manga says. It says Zeref was cursed by God Ankeseram because he made the decision who dies and lies which is him trying to revive his brother.

As result of his learning (abuse Life and Death magic) with addition of his mentally state as its trigger, he got that he got.
It's easy suggest that its mechanics same with process of turning DS into dragons.

It's completely different. Don't bother bringing DS magic here which absolutely has no connection to Zeref's situation.

On other hand, canon did show any indication that anyone used anything on him (curse him), as well as with Mavis case (she got curse after abusing INCOMPLETE Fairy Law).

Only reason Mavis was cursed because she made a choice between who lives and die and got cursed for that. Lol, Zeref even said that during her talk with Mavis. So why don't take your own advice and instead of making things that don't exist in the story?