Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ramen]

How much do you guys want to bet that Ankhseram turns out to be that cool looking dragon god flying above the rest of the dragon gods on this page?

Spoiler: 5 Dragon Gods

I don't mean to quote such an old post but what was the reasoning behind this?

 

[Aurelius]

I don't mean to quote such an old post but what was the reasoning behind this?

Man, I clicked to check back and WoW was in prime form back then. I miss him

 

[Ramen]

Man, I clicked to check back and WoW was in prime form back then. I miss him

Yea I do too, @WoWfan hope all is well.

This thread was plagued by 2 main debates:

1) WoWfan vs Ax
2) Sharkai vs Seven

Then there's me, you, @Jean Grey in the back.

Btw, what are your thoughts on the power of Selene?

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Selene will most likely have dispel magic as a secondary power and future sight. The main power will be summoning meteor and Jellal like stuff.

 

[Ramen]

Selene will most likely have dispel magic as a secondary power and future sight. The main power will be summoning meteor and Jellal like stuff.

I just want either Ignia or Viernes to have a sun-like power.

 

[sharkai]

Selena arc could be different. this would be the first time we get a female boss. i wonder would natsu take her out or maybe lucy shines

 

[Seven777]

o i see
personally i just dont like hax magic in fairy tail. because mishma fuks it up most of the time


i think its the way you are looking at it. i am removing the hax and looking at it in standard stats form
so i get irene fighting pof erza
and august fighting magic less gildarts
and since i dont view magic-less gildarts that high.

but taking hax into account what you says make sense.

lol cubing did nothing. hell at best its a feat-less move.
not so easy. gildarts kept up with august. erza only landed hits when irene was distracted as hell. and that wasnt even her full powers. remember people like to give august ds magic, to give him a chance against irene. irene actually also should have enchantment to increase her stats just like wendy. didnt use that either.

how did august lived up to his hype, or better than irene. the guy beat jellal and co like jacob beat fairy tail guild (basically magical advantage) (or white witch beat fairy tail). he has absolutely no power feat, no speed feat and barely any durablity feat. hell the guy didnt even seems to keep his old copied magic.
meanwhile irene casually turned blumblatt to flowers (hm hm reiko tier move maybe). took a enchanted erza sword to her head while completely distracted (sharply different from august and that butter knife). and one casual dragon strike was enough to break erza sword and all her bones. was only seriously injured by a move arguably stronger than her own top tier move.
irene not living up to her hype other than standard fairy tail crap fight, was because of erza and Wendy shenanigan and people viewing erza starkly weaker than laxus and gildarts (hell alot of people viewed her weaker than gray). nothing more

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rufus magic was pretty haxy. he could actually copy magic then make the other forget it. of course his opponent forget the spell only for the duration of the match. he could also learn from books.
rufus didnt have august nulifying. but he could learn it and make august forget it


that is a problem. if it did nothing, then august shouldnt have opted for that final move. makes me think that gildart basically finished him with that move. Who knows.

everyone knows august strongest move is to wack is walking stick

i wouldnt say august overwhelmed Gildarts in physical combat. he got some hits in, gildarts got a hit in too.

you are ignoring his nulify hax. which i think gave him the most advantage against CS. as long as he has that CS cant do anything against him

Why does a character need to have standard stats to live up to hype? You're acting like hax is something separate from their power, it isn't, it's just another aspect of their strength.
Sure, because Gildarts is stronger than Erza, that doesn't make August weak.
People don't like to give August DS magic, he has used it in the manga. Sure, Eileen should have Wendy's stat buffs.

Because beating Crime Sorciere is better than anything Eileen has done, and fighting Gildarts is better than fighting Erza. And no, I'm not gonna ignore his hax. You're attempting to take away August best and only ability in order to say he's weak, he literally has no feats in the manga outside using that ability, and you expect me to talk about his strength in terms of feats without mentioning it? Entirely ludicrous.
As for the good things you listed off for Eileen, I could easily list of as many bad things. She was trolled by Wendy in enchantments multiple times, her strongest move was busted by Erza with all her bones broken and she was oneshot out of her dragon form. These are all objectively incredibly disappointing moments on Eileens part, and they're the reason why people hate the fight.

 

[Biri Biri]

This thread and Domus Flau were the shit back in the day. God, the memories. It was dead fun creating all these power rankings, discussing the authority behind hax magic and having those endless (often tiresome) conversations about Natsu and his overruling power to destroy everyone and everything hurr durr. The fun thing is that those people were right about Natsu because in the end it was more than obvious that Mashima was pulling out all the stops to hype him up to ridiculous ends to make the overall story complete. Spriggans were just hype tools and fodder to the character developments of the main cast. It's sad.

But yeah, this thread: blood, sweat and tears. Sometimes the discussions in here got so heated up... Maybe I will take a look back later this week for some laughs.

The nostalgia. Brings back memories. Speculation on the power rankings eclipsed even the chapters discussion itself then. The false dawn each time antagonists were introduced and hyped up. The salt was glorious

 

[aymen24]

Since everyone in the manga is fodder
Fodder against each other

Spoiler: .....

 

[Axiomus]

I don't mean to quote such an old post but what was the reasoning behind this?

Just to give a face to Ankhseram.

 

[Ramen]

Since everyone in the manga is fodder
Fodder against each other

Spoiler: .....

That one panel from like 10 years ago is more than GOI combined in terms of feats

I guess since you love titles and believe in statements then the 5DGS > Acnologia because they were said to be equal if not stronger and Ignia said they surpassed him.

 

[Nie Li]

That one panel from like 10 years ago is more than GOI combined in terms of feats

I guess since you love titles and believe in statements then the 5DGS > Acnologia because they were said to be equal if not stronger and Ignia said they surpassed him.

It saddens me a little that we will never get to see anything from the GOI (other than that extremely short fight), even if they've been clearly surpassed by lots of people, just as fanservice to know exactly what they could or couldn't do with their magics.

 

[Ramen]

It saddens me a little that we will never get to see anything from the GOI (other than that extremely short fight), even if they've been clearly surpassed by lots of people, just as fanservice to know exactly what they could or couldn't do with their magics.

I'm a huge Jura fan. My ideal Alvarez would've been more structured team fights. Have Jura at Gildarts level and let them have a team fight. The Hyberion, Wolfheim and Warrod would be tiers above (Warrod in terms of support) and have them have a proper team fight.

Then have Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Sting, etc to have team fights since in pure 1v1 situations, the Spriggans were clearly superior.

 

[Nie Li]

I'm a huge Jura fan. My ideal Alvarez would've been more structured team fights. Have Jura at Gildarts level and let them have a team fight. The Hyberion, Wolfheim and Warrod would be tiers above (Warrod in terms of support) and have them have a proper team fight.

Then have Natsu, Gray, Laxus, Sting, etc to have team fights since in pure 1v1 situations, the Spriggans were clearly superior.

Agreed. I'm particularly interested in Hyberion. Theoretically the second strongest at the time after God Serena, with the whole vampire theme and blood magic he could have been a badass mage with an style similar to characters like Vladimir from League of Legends, but the poor guy never even got to show off anything but a silly debuff.

Even if they were to get defeated in the war with Alvarez, they could have had better showings rather than just become hype material of Acnologia before the war even started.

 

[Ramen]

Agreed. I'm particularly interested in Hyberion. Theoretically the second strongest at the time after God Serena, with the whole vampire theme and blood magic he could have been a badass mage with an style similar to characters like Vladimir from League of Legends, but the poor guy never even got to show off anything but a silly debuff.

Oh don't get me started on Vladmir, kicked my ass in the midlane. Anyways yea he could've been really cool since not many share his style of magic in the series.

Even if they were to get defeated in the war with Alvarez, they could have had better showings rather than just become hype material of Acnologia before the war even started.

They were always going to get defeated since FT has to be the ones to end it but they could've justified their titles and strength one way or another. But, the title of WS or GOI took a hit when Warrod himself said it's all political.

 

[Nie Li]

Oh don't get me started on Vladmir, kicked my ass in the midlane. Anyways yea he could've been really cool since not many share his style of magic in the series.

So far that unnamed debuff Hyberion pulled on GS is the only time we have seen that magic element, so he's the only known user of it, and it seemed like he took control of GS's blood system for a second.

I don't even think Hyberion will ever appear again in the manga and now he should have fallen too far behind from the current top characters, but I just wish he will get to show anything more of what exactly can his "Vampire Magic" do.

They were always going to get defeated since FT has to be the ones to end it but they could've justified their titles and strength one way or another. But, the title of WS or GOI took a hit when Warrod himself said it's all political.

Yeah, there are characters like Gildarts who were stronger than people like Hyberion even when the Alvarez arc started, but I don't know, I just think they were interesting characters either way and it's a shame. God Serena, too, poor guy wasn't even allowed to show or mention what all his elements were. Feels like an incomplete character now despite being supposed to be a top-tier. It's just a real shame.

 

[Ramen]

So far that unnamed debuff Hyberion pulled on GS is the only time we have seen that magic element, so he's the only known user of it, and it seemed like he took control of GS's blood system for a second.

I don't even think Hyberion will ever appear again in the manga and now he should have fallen too far behind from the current top characters, but I just wish he will get to show anything more of what exactly can his "Vampire Magic" do.

Nah, I don't think they will get involved. They have no jurisdiction in another continent.

Yeah, there are characters like Gildarts who were stronger than people like Hyberion even when the Alvarez arc started, but I don't know, I just think they were interesting characters either way and it's a shame. God Serena, too, poor guy wasn't even allowed to show or mention what all his elements were. Feels like an incomplete character now despite being supposed to be a top-tier. It's just a real shame.

That's why Alvarez sucked.

 

[sharkai]

Why does a character need to have standard stats to live up to hype? You're acting like hax is something separate from their power, it isn't, it's just another aspect of their strength.
Sure, because Gildarts is stronger than Erza, that doesn't make August weak.
People don't like to give August DS magic, he has used it in the manga. Sure, Eileen should have Wendy's stat buffs.

Because beating Crime Sorciere is better than anything Eileen has done, and fighting Gildarts is better than fighting Erza. And no, I'm not gonna ignore his hax. You're attempting to take away August best and only ability in order to say he's weak, he literally has no feats in the manga outside using that ability, and you expect me to talk about his strength in terms of feats without mentioning it? Entirely ludicrous.
As for the good things you listed off for Eileen, I could easily list of as many bad things. She was trolled by Wendy in enchantments multiple times, her strongest move was busted by Erza with all her bones broken and she was oneshot out of her dragon form. These are all objectively incredibly disappointing moments on Eileens part, and they're the reason why people hate the fight.

i remove the hax because most people do it. if you look at vs thread say Dimeria vs Laxus or brandish vs natsu or something. alot people assume hax might not work and then these haxy characters get low diffed. infact fairy tail fight normally goes like that, once you overcome the hax, they fall.
Haxy characters are generally not ranked on top as well, atleast for their hax.


you think dragon irene wouldnt have done the same with CS + GOI at the same time? hell you could add gildarts plus cana and remove cobra and dragon irene will still easily beat them (just because they cant hurt dragon irene, this is pretty much how august won)
Wendy and Erza went out after this to troll aconologia. you think august wouldnt have been trolled by them.

August never used ds magic, people just assume that heat spell natsu negated was ds magic. natsu never mentioned it nor ate it

 

[Ratrace]

i remove the hax because most people do it. if you look at vs thread say Dimeria vs Laxus or brandish vs natsu or something. alot people assume hax might not work and then these haxy characters get low diffed. infact fairy tail fight normally goes like that, once you overcome the hax, they fall.
Haxy characters are generally not ranked on top as well, atleast for their hax.


you think dragon irene wouldnt have done the same with CS + GOI at the same time? hell you could add gildarts plus cana and remove cobra and dragon irene will still easily beat them (just because they cant hurt dragon irene, this is pretty much how august won)
Wendy and Erza went out after this to troll aconologia. you think august wouldnt have been trolled by them.

August never used ds magic, people just assume that heat spell natsu negated was ds magic. natsu never mentioned it nor ate it

A lot of the villains relied to much on their magic making them weak in other things

 

[Seven777]

i remove the hax because most people do it. if you look at vs thread say Dimeria vs Laxus or brandish vs natsu or something. alot people assume hax might not work and then these haxy characters get low diffed. infact fairy tail fight normally goes like that, once you overcome the hax, they fall.
Haxy characters are generally not ranked on top as well, atleast for their hax.


you think dragon irene wouldnt have done the same with CS + GOI at the same time? hell you could add gildarts plus cana and remove cobra and dragon irene will still easily beat them (just because they cant hurt dragon irene, this is pretty much how august won)
Wendy and Erza went out after this to troll aconologia. you think august wouldnt have been trolled by them.

August never used ds magic, people just assume that heat spell natsu negated was ds magic. natsu never mentioned it nor ate it

Sure, but put Dimaria vs Jacob and it's an automatic no diff, people only assume the hax don't work when the character is fighting someone beyond their weightclass. If you wanna assume August's hax don't work on Ignia, then go right ahead, even Natsu has probably reached that point to be honest, maybe.
And no, haxy characters are generally ranked at the top. Dimaria, August, Acnologia, like you said, and they're all ranked as the best even among people who should be their peers. August is widely believed as Eileen's superior(though not necessarily cause of hax). Dimaria is mostly ranked as the best normal spriggan, some people even think she's better than Larcade, who should be a cut above. And Acnologia is near universally seen as well above the Dragon Gods, despite them being his equal in power.

Sure, she could, she's August's equal after all, but she didn't, which is why she didn't live up to her hype as well.
Nope, they'd troll him too, like i said, he's Eileen's equal, but he wasn't, which is why he lived up to his hype(he didn't, he's still trash, but fighting Gildarts is obviously better than fighting Erza)

Sure, because that's what the manga implied in Gildarts flashback.