That's weird. I thought I remembered him saying that. Never mind then.
When did they say it was named after him? I thought it was always a coincidence.
It might be but out of all the names they could’ve picked they picked the name of one of the strongest dragons that ever lived.
Perhaps. I think it was just mere coincidence or it could relate to their power.
I think they were originally started to slay and eat Acnologia hence the name.
Interesting theory. I wouldn't mind this.
Missing my point, you are god tier because of your baseline strength, not the magic they use.
Just because you have equal levels of MP doesn't mean your attacks on the same level, or that you can do the same things with it. Even if Natsu obtains Igneel's level of MP, and he still won't be match Igneel's physical strength. Likewise, if Natsu tries to use an attack weaker than FDK demolition fist with Savage Flames it likely wouldn't have given him the same result.
Sure, like I said, some spells are stronger than others.Just because you have equal levels of MP doesn't mean your attacks on the same level, or that you can do the same things with it. Even if Natsu obtains Igneel's level of MP, and he still won't be match Igneel's physical strength. Likewise, if Natsu tries to use an attack weaker than FDK demolition fist with Savage Flames it likely wouldn't have given him the same result.
Well, yes. FDK is stronger because the users are stronger.
I am saying that Natsu was more emotional against Zeref than he was when he saw Lucy die. Natsu remembered Makarov's speech, and began thinking about the entire guild. He would have been thinking about how much he loved the everyone in the guild, Lucy included. I would say this holds greater weight than when he saw Lucy die. Natsu would have had to see the entire guild die in order to match that in terms of negative emotions. Not to mention, love is an inherently superior source of power than negative emotions. We know this because Zeref tapped into all of his darkness, rage, and sorrow against with his attack. He lost out to Natsu's love for the guild.
What exactly is unclear about power of emotions that we can't explain? We know that magic originally came from love, which is an emotion. We know that people get stronger as they get emotional. We've seen instances where POF connects people to their loved ones, to the point where they can hear each other's voices....And we know that this grants a power boost too. We know enough about POF to know it acts differently to eating a power-up. For other characters we might get a little wishy-washy on when it kicks in (still not terribly hard to figure out though). But for Natsu? Flames of Emotions are part of his dragon slaying magic. We're literally told that he can turn his emotions into magic power.
We're going to have to agree to disagree then. I think Natsu's feelings towards the guild are his strongest emotion. That's probably what Mashima was shooting for anyways. Sure, Natsu gots pretty emotional when he thought Lucy died or when future Lucy died. That still pales in comparison to the love he has for the entire guild, which includes Lucy. On top of that, love is just an inherently superior source of power.Sure, like I said, some spells are stronger than others.
I disagree, completelyI'm even going to go as far to say that the emotions Natsu had here absolutely dwarfs everything he felt in the Zeref fight. And there is absolutely no scenario in which he was feeling sooooo much more emotion against Zeref, that it granted him a thousand times the strength, it's simply not feasible, Lucy would have to be a random stranger on the side of the road for the emotions he felt for her to provide so much less power.
Literally every aspect. For one, what does it provide and why? Each instance of it gives different results. Sometimes it gives you the power of the guild, eg Tenrou and Savage Flames. Sometimes it lets you see when you're blind and have no other senses, eg Erza vs Kyoka. Sometimes it lets you move when all your bones are broken, eg Erza vs Eileen. Sometimes it let's you sense other characters across far distances, eg vs Erza vs Azuma. Sometimes it's lets you unlock your own hidden power, eg Natsu vs Gajeel. Sometimes it lets you turn your emotions into magic power, eg Natsu vs Erigor. Sometimes it does barely anything at all, eg Natsu vs Rogue. Some times it does literally nothing, eg Erza vs Jellal.
As for Flames of Emotion, sure, turns emotion into magic power, but even that is a near completely unknown when it comes to how much it gives, how often it gives it, and if it's the same PoF Natsu gets throughout the series. The fight with Erigor just proves my point really, even joke taunts from Happy can give Natsu PoF enough to overcom Erigor after he beat Natsu's ass, and yet he couldn't even muster the strength to stand up and dodge Jellal in order to save Simons life. Greater emotions =/= greater power
Oh, and you're fixated too heavily on the eating magic part, it was just an example. What I'm really likening PoF to is any form of random powerups outside the characters direct control. Whether it be eating magic, using Fairy Heart, being given Fairy Glitter, being boosted by the Tenrou Tree, being enchanted with extra magic power, etc, etc. All of these power ups are vastly different from each other, but I'm still going to generalize the lot of them as power ups outside the users control, and that includes PoF.
He said no mercy for Skullion's team if they fail this time.
I'm more of the mind that safeguarding Lucy's future meant significantly more to him given the fact that unlike Zeref Future Rogue actually succeeds in destroying FT and the situation at hand actually had Rogue slaying Lucy right in front of him, not to mention the actual emotions he displayed in the scene being arguably the most emotional Natsu has ever shown himself..We're going to have to agree to disagree then. I think Natsu's feelings towards the guild are his strongest emotion. That's probably what Mashima was shooting for anyways. Sure, Natsu gots pretty emotional when he thought Lucy died or when future Lucy died. That still pales in comparison to the love he has for the entire guild, which includes Lucy. On top of that, love is just an inherently superior source of power.
Natsu getting stronger when he's emotional isn't something that sometimes happens. It's something that pretty much always happens. Ignia picked up on it right away, even when Natsu threw a basic punch.
And I doubt that POF did nothing for Erza. It's arguably the reason she got back up from Azuma's attack.
That's just it. POF isn't outside the character's direct control. It's based on their emotions. We just can't accurately predict when a character decides to get emotional, but generally speaking it's when they get pushed to their limits with a lot on the line. Obviously if an opponent is too strong, then you might get defeated before you reach such emotions. But ultimately what triggers POF is the guy's emotions. It's just not the same as eating something for a power-up.
Doesn't really matter. Natsu wasn't thinking about how much he loved the guild when he was grieving over future Lucy's death, and that makes the difference. I believe that Natsu's love for the guild is significantly stronger than any amount of negative emotions he can feel over anyone's death. It's already proven to be stronger than the negative emotions that Zeref felt in all his 400 years of suffering, and Zeref had it way worse than Natsu.
No, he was thinking about keeping his vow to Lucy and protecting her future, which Rogue destroyed, it was not simple mourning.
Okay, sure. That's still not the same as Natsu thinking about the entire guild. That's what Natsu himself considers to be his greatest source of power. Zeref had it way worse than Natsu. He's suffered for 400 years, killing anybody that got close to him. It was to the point where he wanted to erase the whole world and start over. Natsu snapped out of his rage when he remembered his childhood with Gray and Erza. I'd take Zeref's darkness over Natsu's any day.
If we got the exact same layout against Georg as Hades I would be ecstatic. An enemy to challenge them all!! Sadly, I think a good Gildarts or Laxus match are our only real hope. If he fights Natsu you know what we’ll get...
Yep, DF get's pushed a tier and solos. Unless in the off chance Mashima makes him so powerful that Natsu by himself can't challenge it.
Lucy will oneshot raizen to demonstrate her new moon dragon god magic and then oneshots Diablos hideout with sema
stop griefing
