Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

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She did that before....


Anyway, I expect a lot from her
 

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She did that before....


Anyway, I expect a lot from her
I think we all do. Hopefully we get some hype deliverance. Hoping the positive EZ reactions have Mashima feeling a little more flex positive.
 

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They don't scale to Acno because they get hurt by people who scale below even top S12 lol. Acno wouldn't even be scratched by Suzaku or hurt by Giga Gajeel. His ability gives such a higher edge, it is practically impossible to surpass him in FT without some major plot bs. Even a lapse in time failed to kill him lol.

Acno is really that dude who holds the strongest title no matter what. It's like comparing newer villains from the novels in Bleach to Ywhach, hard to believe anyone can top that guy in their verse bcs he is broken af and only went down bcs of plot. Acno never had a true challenge for a reason, even in his final battle he refused to use his full power.

My boy Acno is forever 🐐 until we get an actual villain above his paygrade and even then I'd still hold doubt bcs no one knows Acno's full power and all these new villains waited until he was dead to talk shit lol.
 

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They don't scale to Acno because they get hurt by people who scale below even top S12 lol. Acno wouldn't even be scratched by Suzaku or hurt by Giga Gajeel. His ability gives such a higher edge, it is practically impossible to surpass him in FT without some major plot bs. Even a lapse in time failed to kill him lol.

Acno is really that dude who holds the strongest title no matter what. It's like comparing newer villains from the novels in Bleach to Ywhach, hard to believe anyone can top that guy in their verse bcs he is broken af and only went down bcs of plot. Acno never had a true challenge for a reason, even in his final battle he refused to use his full power.

My boy Acno is forever 🐐 until we get an actual villain above his paygrade and even then I'd still hold doubt bcs no one knows Acno's full power and all these new villains waited until he was dead to talk shit lol.
Nothing says Suzaku is below top S12. Honestly, from what we've seen so far, I'd say Suzaku is a tier above August and Eileen.

Anyway, I agree that Acno will forever be the strongest due to his abilities. He can just soul steal strong dragons and is near immune to all magic.

But by hype, we can put 5 DGs at least in his tier, stats vise, right? Selene just being 70% of Acno in stats would be more than sufficient to make what Suzaku did beyond impressive. Magic resistance/immunity doesn't help against physical attacks, so what Suzaku did to Selene isn't something that couldn't be done if Selene also was a "magic dragon" like Acno.
Suzaku also tanked two named spells from Selene, and countered a spell.
 

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Nothing says Suzaku is below top S12. Honestly, from what we've seen so far, I'd say Suzaku is a tier above August and Eileen.

Anyway, I agree that Acno will forever be the strongest due to his abilities. He can just soul steal strong dragons and is near immune to all magic.

But by hype, we can put 5 DGs at least in his tier, stats vise, right? Selene just being 70% of Acno in stats would be more than sufficient to make what Suzaku did beyond impressive. Magic resistance/immunity doesn't help against physical attacks, so what Suzaku did to Selene isn't something that couldn't be done if Selene also was a "magic dragon" like Acno.
Suzaku also tanked two named spells from Selene, and countered a spell.
yeah, I don't know what Suzaku needs to do anymore to prove himself superior to S12.

I mean, even if he gets smashed by Selene next chapter (most likely), he is still way more impressive than any Spriggan.
wouldn't be surprised if some people will still put Spriggans over him even if he whoops all 5 Dragon Gods combined :yodawg
 
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Just in my opinion, Suzaku is at least as strong as the best Spriggans. I only need to see the end of the fight as Selene stops to play around.
If Suzaku can resist just a little during the fight, a few pages, then yes I will put him above them. If he will be One-Two Shots (depending of the attack of course), I should put him around their equals.

Even if Suzaku ran away or is beaten by Selene, still for me, he already did more than I expected so, he has nothing more to do to prove his value.

Ace Spriggan level is a minimum. And I think he will prove to be stronger by some mergin as I currently suspect him to not having unleash all his power yet.
 

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Nothing says Suzaku is below top S12. Honestly, from what we've seen so far, I'd say Suzaku is a tier above August and Eileen.

Anyway, I agree that Acno will forever be the strongest due to his abilities. He can just soul steal strong dragons and is near immune to all magic.

But by hype, we can put 5 DGs at least in his tier, stats vise, right? Selene just being 70% of Acno in stats would be more than sufficient to make what Suzaku did beyond impressive. Magic resistance/immunity doesn't help against physical attacks, so what Suzaku did to Selene isn't something that couldn't be done if Selene also was a "magic dragon" like Acno.
Suzaku also tanked two named spells from Selene, and countered a spell.
Giga Gajeel took and landed as much damage against Aldo as Suzaku did Selene. Top 2 S12 are above Giga Gajeel since Brandish is fodder to them lol.

It really wouldn't tho since Acno was not getting hurt by magic at all until plot force and Suzaku's attacks are still magic lol. The fact that top 2 couldn't land a scratch on Acno is not the equivalent of them not being able land a scratch on a DG (well except August bcs he doesn't have DS magic). DG are also susceptible to hax as shown with Touka, which Acno is completely immune to.

Selene is toying with him right now in human form which is about as impressive as tagging Acno who was toying with Jellal or Makarov. It's not until they get serious that "stats" should play a major factor. Suzaku was able to get reacted to by Erza who was already tired from her fight with Youko lol.

Giga Gajeel (Aldo headbutt and thicket thorns), a beat up Laxus (thicket thorns), and Base Natsu (water dragon roar and thicket thorns) tanked spells from DGs lol. Until I see more of him, he is at Giga Gajeel level which is below the top 2 S12.
 

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They don't scale to Acno because they get hurt by people who scale below even top S12 lol. Acno wouldn't even be scratched by Suzaku or hurt by Giga Gajeel. His ability gives such a higher edge, it is practically impossible to surpass him in FT without some major plot bs. Even a lapse in time failed to kill him lol.

Acno is really that dude who holds the strongest title no matter what. It's like comparing newer villains from the novels in Bleach to Ywhach, hard to believe anyone can top that guy in their verse bcs he is broken af and only went down bcs of plot. Acno never had a true challenge for a reason, even in his final battle he refused to use his full power.

My boy Acno is forever 🐐 until we get an actual villain above his paygrade and even then I'd still hold doubt bcs no one knows Acno's full power and all these new villains waited until he was dead to talk shit lol.
Bro what are you talking about? Merc lifting an Ocean, the calcs on Aldoron’s AOE, Selene’s moon feat. Honestly every Dragon God with an arc so far has a more impressive feat than base Acno. None of them (so far) compare to what we know Acno was capable of with his absorption of time, but they easily stack up to everything Acno showed before hand. This is a fact, we gotta move past this.

None of the Spriggan were matches for Dragons based on what we saw. August wouldn’t step to Acno at all, and thatwas pre-TL, and Irene essentially through a ton of big punches he no diffed and dodged a move before the BFR. Neither tanked any attacks, let alone cancelled them or injured Acno. They have absolutely nothing to justify the idea their stronger than Suzaku, and he’s lowkey shitting on the Spriggan as a whole right now. 🤷🏾
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I mean, I think the biggest issue is that the unavoidable clash between the FT S Class and BDK will put them all squarely at or above those lvls by series end. So I get why that idea would put some people off, especially those bothered by the idea that they closed whatever gap remained over the last year of missions and training. Mashima seems pretty clear in his intentions though.
 

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Bro what are you talking about? Merc lifting an Ocean, the calcs on Aldoron’s AOE, Selene’s moon feat. Honestly every Dragon God with an arc so far has a more impressive feat than base Acno. None of them (so far) compare to what we know Acno was capable of with his absorption of time, but they easily stack up to everything Acno showed before hand. This is a fact, we gotta move past this.

None of the Spriggan were matches for Dragons based on what we saw. August wouldn’t step to Acno at all, and thatwas pre-TL, and Irene essentially through a ton of big punches he no diffed and dodged a move before the BFR. Neither tanked any attacks, let alone cancelled them or injured Acno. They have absolutely nothing to justify the idea their stronger than Suzaku, and he’s lowkey shitting on the Spriggan as a whole right now. 🤷🏾
Yeah, and Acno didn't try to reveal his powers. Irene's U1 and August's Ars Magia are as good as those feats and Acno is far above them. He literally went into a laspe in time, and ate it lmfao. Time paradox > any feat performed in the series.

Most of the S12 didn't even have DS magic lmao. What? Irene bfr-ed Acno he didn't dodge it lol. And guess what? Suzaku is not doing anything to Acno either lmao. Suzaku really hasn't lmao. Giga Gajeel, Base Natsu and Laxus tanked attacks from DG, they are inferior to top S12s. He really ain't bcs Brandish literally made Gajeel tango with Aldo and Giga Gajeel did far more damage to Aldoron than Suzaku did to Selene.
 

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He literally went into a laspe in time, and ate it lmfao. Time paradox > any feat performed in the series.
What? He ate the magic which is what his DS allows. That's putting Natsu inside the room of fire and saying it's a great feat. Even then power was too much for him to contain.
 

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Yeah, and Acno didn't try to reveal his powers. Irene's U1 and August's Ars Magia are as good as those feats and Acno is far above them. He literally went into a laspe in time, and ate it lmfao. Time paradox > any feat performed in the series.

Most of the S12 didn't even have DS magic lmao. What? Irene bfr-ed Acno he didn't dodge it lol. And guess what? Suzaku is not doing anything to Acno either lmao. Suzaku really hasn't lmao. Giga Gajeel, Base Natsu and Laxus tanked attacks from DG, they are inferior to top S12s. He really ain't bcs Brandish literally made Gajeel tango with Aldo and Giga Gajeel did far more damage to Aldoron than Suzaku did to Selene.
Both those feats cap at continental. That’s the kind of calc Aldoron was getting by walking. Raising an Ocean and moving/enlarging a moon eclipse those easily bro. Granted, those feats felt like Selene manipulating the moon does now, but the jump in scale is literally astrological.

I did make a grand distinction between Acno pre and post TL did I not? An mentioned he’s still at the top?That has absolutely no standing on the Spriggan though, as neither Irene nor August have genuinely impressive feats against him. So benefit from this in no way.

Nobody said that he did. I said that all Irene accomplished was throwing some blows he no diffed and dodging his return spell before BFRing him. Not sure what you’re arguing here buddy. 🤔

Suzaku is tanking the spell that Irene dodged. I’m not sure if he’s getting the same cheek Slice bc of Acno’s broken hax...but he has abetter shot of harming him than Irene currently has. An at this point, she need a new feat to be relevant if he continues his performance for even 1 more chapter.

Gajeel being able to physically fight Aldoron when artificially made his size...(and still losing) somehow secures the Spriggan 12 how? Also Laxus 1 shot one of the stronger Spriggan while on his deathbed a year ago, the Spriggan were beneath him then. This comparison simply falls flat Bro. Arguing the DG are weaker than Spriggan because their attacks harmed all the folks who put them down a year ago?
 

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What? He ate the magic which is what his DS allows. That's putting Natsu inside the room of fire and saying it's a great feat. Even then power was too much for him to contain.
Except no other person is doing that. Put any other characters besides immortals and they would have died. That feat is above enlarging the moon, or destroying a country. Yeah, and all he did was have to harmonize to stabilize. Still the thing is he didn't die from that lapse in time. Throw Natsu into the core of the sun and I am saying that feat would be better than any DG feat as well. Resistance only gets you so far, with or without it, the feat is their and thus making it more impressive lol. How is DGs gonna top him without magic? They won't. Lapse in time failed to kill him so fire magic (without PoF), moon magic, sword saint magic, and tree magic are doing jack squat lol.

Both those feats cap at continental. That’s the kind of calc Aldoron was getting by walking. Raising an Ocean and moving/enlarging a moon eclipse those easily bro. Granted, those feats felt like Selene manipulating the moon does now, but the jump in scale is literally astrological.

I did make a grand distinction between Acno pre and post TL did I not? An mentioned he’s still at the top?That has absolutely no standing on the Spriggan though, as neither Irene nor August have genuinely impressive feats against him. So benefit from this in no way.

Nobody said that he did. I said that all Irene accomplished was throwing some blows he no diffed and dodging his return spell before BFRing him. Not sure what you’re arguing here buddy. 🤔

Suzaku is tanking the spell that Irene dodged. I’m not sure if he’s getting the same cheek Slice bc of Acno’s broken hax...but he has abetter shot of harming him than Irene currently has. An at this point, she need a new feat to be relevant if he continues his performance for even 1 more chapter.

Gajeel being able to physically fight Aldoron when artificially made his size...(and still losing) somehow secures the Spriggan 12 how? Also Laxus 1 shot one of the stronger Spriggan while on his deathbed a year ago, the Spriggan were beneath him then. This comparison simply falls flat Bro. Arguing the DG are weaker than Spriggan because their attacks harmed all the folks who put them down a year ago?
Vape feat is multicontinental. Aldo's step and shockwave were country. The Gajeel calcs were also getting continental kinetic energy as well.

Bcs they can't do anything to him. Suzaku fought Acno he is getting body without putting a scratch on him. You are comparing fighting a DG to fighting Acno which is two different beasts altogether since Acno's DoM ability neggs magic.


Bcs there was nothing she could have done without magic. I am wondering what Suzaku could have done that Irene could not in that situation? Tanking a DG spell is not that hard, several have done it before hand and they are much weaker than Irene. The spell Selene used wasn't even impressive lol.

Bcs Brandish made him powerful enough to do so. Giga Brandish >= Giga Gajeel, only difference is Gajeel had DS magic lol. Laxus oneshot a S12 with an asspull and his weakness and Wall also stood there and let Laxus attack him. Wall shot off Etherion, Laxus would have been toasted point blank. Never said the DG are weaker, I said everything Suzaku has done, is about Giga Gajeel level which is only Brandish tier who is below the top 2 S12 lmao.

Except none of these guys put them down without plot interference or assistance in some capacity. They also failed to beat the top 2 S12, even PoF Erza with literally multiple advantages failed lol. The S12 are obviously still relevant as shown with the Giga Gajeel feat. S-Class FT members are not country level by feats which Brandish alone is based on feats and statements. Suzaku is sitting around high tier S12/Giga Gajeel tier. Both are below Irene/August tier.

Nothing he has done to Selene impressed me more than Giga Gajeel. That's the benchmarker and he has yet to surpass it. You are trying to compare nicking Selene to doing no damage to Acno which is a failed comparison since Suzaku can't scratch Acno either. That's why I said I am waiting until he does something better than Giga Gajeel did.
 

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Except no other person is doing that. Put any other characters besides immortals and they would have died. That feat is above enlarging the moon, or destroying a country. Yeah, and all he did was have to harmonize to stabilize. Still the thing is he didn't die from that lapse in time. Throw Natsu into the core of the sun and I am saying that feat would be better than any DG feat as well. Resistance only gets you so far, with or without it, the feat is their and thus making it more impressive lol. How is DGs gonna top him without magic? They won't. Lapse in time failed to kill him so fire magic (without PoF), moon magic, sword saint magic, and tree magic are doing jack squat lol.
We don't know the size of the Time Lapse so you can't say it's a much better feat devouring the sun or destroying the moon. Acnologia hasn't shown any feats close to destroying a moon. Magical power from the Ishigar continent was enough to paralyze him.
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Giga Brandish >= Giga Gajeel
Brandish nowhere near Gajeel level in hand-to-hand combat. She would get beaten way faster than Gajeel did even with the DS seal.
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How is DGs gonna top him without magic?
They can beat him with physical strength unless you are suggesting Acno can beat them all together with physical strength. Acnologia never had eaten DS magic as well.
 

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We don't know the size of the Time Lapse so you can't say it's a much better feat devouring the sun or destroying the moon. Acnologia hasn't shown any feats close to destroying a moon. Magical power from the Ishigar continent was enough to paralyze him.
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Brandish nowhere near Gajeel level in hand-to-hand combat. She would get beaten way faster than Gajeel did even with the DS seal.
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They can beat him with physical strength unless you are suggesting Acno can beat them all together with physical strength. Acnologia never had eaten DS magic as well.
It's lapse in time created and expanded for three different timelines lol. It's unquantifable sure, but it is still far better feat just for the implications behind it. He doesn't have to since he would scale to such feats. Magical power plus him being severely weakened by motion sickness stopped him.

Actually she is. Brandish stated that Gajeel limiter was the fault of his own body, which implies her limit is greater. Two, Gajeel had worse striking power than Taurus Lucy as shown in the fight with Golems and Brandish easily manhandle her in physical strength.
Her physical strength in base > Gajeel's physical strength in base ergo her giant form > his giant form.

Except they won't since he has not only physical power on their level but magic power as well. He is immune to ds magic therefore he can eat it since his DoM ability lets resist and eat any form of magic regardless of element. Not only that he has magic that can hax them out like soul magic. The only magic he can't eat is the Power of Feelings unfortunately lol.
 

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It's lapse in time created and expanded for three different timelines lol. It's unquantifable sure, but it is still far better feat just for the implications behind it. He doesn't have to since he would scale to such feats. Magical power plus him being severely weakened by motion sickness stopped him.
Three different timelines were something you came up with. Nowhere was it was mentioned. All Zeref said was it was full of nothing but time magic. Anything else is your headcanon.

ctually she is. Brandish stated that Gajeel limiter was the fault of his own body, which implies her limit is greater.
Brandish never said anything about that. All she said was Gajeel limiter was three minutes. That's the limit of Brandish as well since Brandish is the one casting the spell, not Gajeel. Nowhere was it mention this is because of Gajeel faulty body.

Two, Gajeel had worse striking power than Taurus Lucy as shown in the fight with Golems and Brandish easily manhandle her in physical strength.
Gajeel was able to damage the golems, later on, don't know what you saying. It just means he didn't go that hard on the golems at the beginning,

Except they won't since he has not only physical power on their level but magic power as well. He is immune to ds magic therefore he can eat it since his DoM ability lets resist and eat any form of magic regardless of element. Not only that he has magic that can hax them out like soul magic. The only magic he can't eat is the Power of Feelings unfortunately lol
He hasn't eaten DS magic. Can show me anywhere he has eaten DS magic? He failed against Igneel, Irene. He was dodging Natsu attacks. I have seen saying that you don't need to dodge if it can't damage you in a Laxus vs Erza discussion. He was dodging Stings attack as well. Everything magic he has eaten up until now is non-DS Magic. He ain't beating 5 DG together. Even half-dead they can beat him in physicals together.
 

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Three different timelines were something you came up with. Nowhere was it was mentioned. All Zeref said was it was full of nothing but time magic. Anything else is your headcanon.



Brandish never said anything about that. All she said was Gajeel limiter was three minutes. That's the limit of Brandish as well since Brandish is the one casting the spell, not Gajeel. Nowhere was it mention this is because of Gajeel faulty body.



Gajeel was able to damage the golems, later on, don't know what you saying. It just means he didn't go that hard on the golems at the beginning,



He hasn't eaten DS magic. Can show me anywhere he has eaten DS magic? He failed against Igneel, Irene. He was dodging Natsu attacks. I have seen saying that you don't need to dodge if it can't damage you in a Laxus vs Erza discussion. He was dodging Stings attack as well. Everything magic he has eaten up until now is non-DS Magic. He ain't beating 5 DG together. Even half-dead they can beat him in physicals together.
Agree overall. But pretty sure Acno can eat DS magic.

Natsu eats magic from Atlas Flames, Igneel, Ignia etc. Also from Laxus.
Gajeel eats from Rouge
Sting eats from Rouge, Rouge eats from Sting. etc

DS can eat magic from other DS as well. Acno is no exception. He didn't need to eat magic from Eileen or Natsu, because he didn't feel the need to. They were insects to him. Pretty sure he ate GC from Jellol only because Mashima wanted to show us Acno's powers as the "magic dragon", it was for demonstrating...cause there is no way GC would've even scratched him lol.

As for Igneel, Mashima probably came up with the idea that Acno is "magic dragon" only by Alvereass arc. Basically, retconn.
 

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Two, Gajeel had worse striking power than Taurus Lucy as shown in the fight with Golems.
Her physical strength in base > Gajeel's physical strength in base ergo her giant form > his giant form.
Their were circumstances : when Gajeel and co were useless, the Golems seemed invulnerable as they were at full power. No one coud affect them. Even with combo attacks. With Doom's defeat, all Seeds were weakened and the Golems could be damage (Lucy with Taurus as exemple) and destroy even if they were still very durable.

Every Seeds's defeats weakened the Seeds still valid. And this is why Natsu could defeat Aldo brain.
 

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The strength level so far is the city level....
This is what Natsu did......He destroyed an entire city with one attack


Nobody in Fairy Tail can destroy a continent or moon with a single attack....

Just like Brandish, what Merc and selene did was related to their abilities

Brandish is able to enlarge and shrink things to the country level

Does this mean that she is at the level of the Five Dragons as well ????

This is what I understood by watching many anime, at least at power level
 
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Igneels bite>>>Time Lapse lol, considering it did sooooo much more damage. Acno ate his element, that's standard, let's not pretend it makes him some untouchable monster. The DGs only need to be on the level of half dead Igneel to deal critical damage.

That aside, Suzaku>August and Eileen, and there are 3 other characters on his tier lol. Gotta love it. They're probably gonna be beaten in 1v1s too. Gildarts>Top two spriggans incoming, I can feel it.
 

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So in this case......

gajeel>August and Eileen, And Suzaku is with them too



jellal, too, because he did the same thing against Acno ( human and dragon)...

But Gildarts ??? really!
 
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