Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Ronin31]

Erza is ahead, but if Luxus defeats Kirin he'll be back with that 0.10 ahead of Erza... but now he needs the fight against Kirin

He has to defeat Kirin + reverse all his MP level (using his ultimate hax) by his own to be on equal feat with Erza, then one shot him as well.

Laxus's best shot, Red Lightning Raiko, only pushed Kirin to be serious, just like Erza's Blumenblatt in the Blue Dimension.... (simple analogy with Erza's Blumenblatt = Laxus's Raiko in their own battle).

So, for me, it depends of the way of the battle. For now, angry Erza is beyond Laxus by feat, with some mergin for me.

 

[Sevently]

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can i have the link to do the same tierlist?

 

[GL_Nova]

But Erza defeated Misaki fair and square and Misaki was compared to Gildarts, and she was casual at this time meanwhile Kirin was compared to him while getting a little serious. And Laxus was getting his ass whooped by Kirin.

I think we will all claim that Laxus is > or = Erza is a few chapters but for now, her feats outclasses his.

She was said to be almost like Gildarts, but a powered up Kirin reminded Laxus of the difference between him and Gildarts, that’s more impressive than Gray doing the comparison. As for the fights Laxus took more blows and was still up and fighting. He countered Kirin’s hax and forced him to get serious. Not only is Kirin strongest so far, but he’s also got a broken weapon, regardless of who’s soul it is the WW effect took the entire guild down at once. Kirin had to report to is because Laxus had already gotten around his hax doing good damage with only 2 attacks. Him overcoming the coffin hax will be its own feat. Erza did amazing, but Laxus will be beating the stronger foe. So I’m confident in the statement now.

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They were going to be kills by the DE, stated in the chapter, instead of fighting back she begs, that is the part you seem to have missed

They spoke a threat. She was actually attacking her. Implied threats aren’t as urgent as physical attacks. If you argue they are then sue simply lacked the instinct to react or the power to back it up.

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He has to defeat Kirin + reverse all his MP level (using his ultimate hax) by his own to be on equal feat with Erza, then one shot him as well.

Laxus's best shot, Red Lightning Raiko, only pushed Kirin to be serious, just like Erza's Blumenblatt in the Blue Dimension.... (simple analogy with Erza's Blumenblatt = Laxus's Raiko in their own battle).

So, for me, it depends of the way of the battle. For now, angry Erza is beyond Laxus by feat, with some mergin for me.

According to Kirin, Laxus did the most damage that’s been done against him for a long time. An Misaki needed her strongest magic to contend with him. I think Laxus is good either way. It’s just clenched when he wins.

 

[Ronin31]

It’s just clenched when he wins.

For me, not. Laxus is strong, for sure. But to have the same feat as Erza, for now, he has to prove a superiority to Kirin in all stats : durability (Erza took all the spells and continue until the end), strategy (Erza understood her Magic and made a parade to move inside the dimension), Magic power (Erza took over the entire Magic of Misaki), strength (while enrage, Erza litterally one shot Misaki with a final blow).

As for Misaki and Kirin, yes Misaki was push under her retreachment and use her hidden spells against him. But nothing suggest Kirin didn't deal the same as well and who won the contest between them. But, for sure, Kirin didn't take over the Dimension like Erza did as Misaki was shock when that happen. She didn't say "You are as strong as Kirin"..... She is litterally in the way "that's impossible, I am a Goddess here".

So, no, just winning vs Kirin isn't enough. We have to see the battle. For now, Erza has better feat. Like all the Quest Team who improve a lot here (Lucy and Wendy did very well against monsters). Unlike people, I am waiting for Grey's improvement before the final contest with the Dragons.

She was said to be almost like Gildarts

That was casual Misaki without using her Dimension while Kirin was being compare to the old man when he got Laxus' blow pushing him to be serious. That put them equal by hype as serious Misaki, under her Dimension, is stronger than the one who was cocky facing Erza at the begining. Both are even.

 

[WoWfan]

GL_Nova, that is the plan, not a threat, and she even attacked her friends before, the fact that Erza didn't move on her own means that Laxus could resist long enough to defend which means that Kyria is stronger then, since it is an isolated moment.

 

[Natsu Goatneel]

She was said to be almost like Gildarts, but a powered up Kirin reminded Laxus of the difference between him and Gildarts, that’s more impressive than Gray doing the comparison. As for the fights Laxus took more blows and was still up and fighting. He countered Kirin’s hax and forced him to get serious. Not only is Kirin strongest so far, but he’s also got a broken weapon, regardless of who’s soul it is the WW effect took the entire guild down at once. Kirin had to report to is because Laxus had already gotten around his hax doing good damage with only 2 attacks. Him overcoming the coffin hax will be its own feat. Erza did amazing, but Laxus will be beating the stronger foe. So I’m confident in the statement now.

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They spoke a threat. She was actually attacking her. Implied threats aren’t as urgent as physical attacks. If you argue they are then sue simply lacked the instinct to react or the power to back it up.

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According to Kirin, Laxus did the most damage that’s been done against him for a long time. An Misaki needed her strongest magic to contend with him. I think Laxus is good either way. It’s just clenched when he wins.

Man it seems Erza picks up magic from everyone she knows. Irene-Heavenly Body Magic Meteor, Natsu-Fire Dragon Sword, Gray-Ice Devil Sword

Laxus is gonna beat Kirin while injured though unless Wendy heals him.

I'd say it's High Enchanter DF Wendy > FDKM Natsu = Suzaku > Red Lightning Laxus = Jellal = Erza >= Kirin > Misaki > High Enchanter Wendy > Haku > Mirajane > ISD Gajeel = LFD Natsu > DeS Gray >> Base Natsu > Base Gajeel > Base Gray

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She was said to be almost like Gildarts, but a powered up Kirin reminded Laxus of the difference between him and Gildarts, that’s more impressive than Gray doing the comparison. As for the fights Laxus took more blows and was still up and fighting. He countered Kirin’s hax and forced him to get serious. Not only is Kirin strongest so far, but he’s also got a broken weapon, regardless of who’s soul it is the WW effect took the entire guild down at once. Kirin had to report to is because Laxus had already gotten around his hax doing good damage with only 2 attacks. Him overcoming the coffin hax will be its own feat. Erza did amazing, but Laxus will be beating the stronger foe. So I’m confident in the statement now.

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They spoke a threat. She was actually attacking her. Implied threats aren’t as urgent as physical attacks. If you argue they are then sue simply lacked the instinct to react or the power to back it up.

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According to Kirin, Laxus did the most damage that’s been done against him for a long time. An Misaki needed her strongest magic to contend with him. I think Laxus is good either way. It’s just clenched when he wins.

Man it seems Erza picks up magic from everyone she knows. Irene-Heavenly Body Magic Meteor, Natsu-Fire Dragon Sword, Gray-Ice Devil Sword

Laxus is gonna beat Kirin while injured though unless Wendy heals him.

I'd say it's High Enchanter DF Wendy > FDKM Natsu = Suzaku > Red Lightning Laxus = Jellal = Erza >= Kirin > Misaki > Haku > I

He does because it is END’s power that over comes that of a god, and that is the keep difference, because of that of a god, hence why it is created, to combat the power of that of Zeref’s immortality which is a god power. Think about it, if it was a matter of strength and not specific nature of power, then why didn’t we see battles waging around when Dimaria fought against Wendy and Chelia?

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And in the Q&A Mirajane said he got “a” power that allowed him to movie in stopped time, so he would have time stop resistance.

They act like Tartaros Natsu didn't already resist timestop when Zeref came for E.N.D book. It's was already confirmed way back then. Natsu was literally made as a plot device. His secret power is literally infinite power based upon his emotions.

 

[WoWfan]

Man it seems Erza picks up magic from everyone she knows. Irene-Heavenly Body Magic Meteor, Natsu-Fire Dragon Sword, Gray-Ice Devil Sword

Laxus is gonna beat Kirin while injured though unless Wendy heals him.

I'd say it's High Enchanter DF Wendy > FDKM Natsu = Suzaku > Red Lightning Laxus = Jellal = Erza >= Kirin > Misaki > High Enchanter Wendy > Haku > Mirajane > ISD Gajeel = LFD Natsu > DeS Gray >> Base Natsu > Base Gajeel > Base Gray

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Man it seems Erza picks up magic from everyone she knows. Irene-Heavenly Body Magic Meteor, Natsu-Fire Dragon Sword, Gray-Ice Devil Sword

Laxus is gonna beat Kirin while injured though unless Wendy heals him.

I'd say it's High Enchanter DF Wendy > FDKM Natsu = Suzaku > Red Lightning Laxus = Jellal = Erza >= Kirin > Misaki > Haku > I

They act like Tartaros Natsu didn't already resist timestop when Zeref came for E.N.D book. It's was already confirmed way back then. Natsu was literally made as a plot device. His secret power is literally infinite power based upon his emotions.

It’s not really infinite power as it is more his heat reaching a point where it warps time itself, hence Planck temperature.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

I'd say it's High Enchanter DF Wendy > FDKM Natsu = Suzaku > Red Lightning Laxus = Jellal = Erza >= Kirin > Misaki > High Enchanter Wendy > Haku > Mirajane > ISD Gajeel = LFD Natsu > DeS Gray >> Base Natsu > Base Gajeel > Base Gray

what

 

[kenedyfake]

Natsu ( DF )
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Gildartz
Luxus/Erza/Natsu
Wendy ( high enchanter )

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Natsu ( DF )
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Gildartz
Luxus/Erza/Natsu
Wendy ( high enchanter )

what again

 

[Natsu Goatneel]

what again

Base High Enchant Wendy is broken enough and high diffed Haku who's at least comparable to the other 2 Black DS. Haku's main power was ineffective because Wendy is broken. He negged Natsu and Lucy due to his ability lightspeed is just a secondary ability. DF is a 3x multiplier on top of Wendy having Deus spells that double her all her stats and abilities and renders all hax useless against her. Wendy is basically 5x stronger than Haku the Black DS and I doubt Suzaku, Kirin or Misaki is that much stronger unless they go DF.

Basically Wendy has become the most broken FT character in the series behind DF Natsu.

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It’s not really infinite power as it is more his heat reaching a point where it warps time itself, hence Planck temperature.

There's no limit to Natsu's power and never has been. He can go from fodder to Gildarts to oneshotting Fairy Heart Zeref based on his emotions alone. That's excluding DF or FDKM. Flame of Emotions Natsu is his actual strongest power which has no limit. Zeref literally made Natsu to surpass the power of potentially an omnipotent God in FT

 

[WoWfan]

the only real limit is his tolerance to the intense heat of his Savage Flames which was burning him severely.

 

[Lucy>Wendy&Elfman]

Base High Enchant Wendy is broken enough and high diffed Haku who's at least comparable to the other 2 Black DS.

Ok, no.

Base Wendy was overwhelmed by Haku, who wasn't even willing to defeat her by hurting her.

Spoiler: Haku overwhelmed Wendy with his speed...

Spoiler: ...physical strength...

Spoiler: ...and his plushies.

She would've lost the fight if it wasn't for Irene interfering.

Spoiler: Irene using a Multi-Body Enchant to take over Haku's plushies and use them against him

She literally used her Dragon Force, which is the strongest form that a Dragon Slayer can attain, and used her strongest offensive spell.

Spoiler: Wendy going DF

Spoiler: Wendy using Sky Drill in her DF

Haku's main power was ineffective because Wendy is broken.

Nope, because Wendy's magic was literally negating his.

Spoiler: Wendy negating Haku's magic

He negged Natsu and Lucy due to his ability lightspeed is just a secondary ability. Wendy having Deus spells that double her all her stats and abilities and renders all hax useless against her.

Hum, his magic worked on Natsu and Lucy because the both of them aren't enchanters.

Spoiler: Haku turning NaLu and Happy into plushies

Wendy having Deus spells that double her all her stats and abilities and renders all hax useless against her.

Bro, what? Her Deus spells don't rend hax useless against her. You confuse it with Re-raise.

Wendy is basically 5x stronger than Haku the Black DS and I doubt Suzaku, Kirin or Misaki is that much stronger unless they go DF.

Bro, Wendy is 5x stronger than Haku based on what?? She literally struggled with a playing around Haku, and had to use her strongest mode and offensive spell to defeat him.

Suzaku, Kirin and Misaki are much stronger than Haku and Wendy. I absolutely agree that they portrayed to be equals back in the day, but their feats outclasses his by a large margin. They literally faced some of Fairy Tail top tiers, Natsu, Laxus and Erza, and these three are portrayed to be far above Wendy since years lmao.

This Wendy wank has gotten worse and worse for years? That's too much now.

 

[GL_Nova]

For me, not. Laxus is strong, for sure. But to have the same feat as Erza, for now, he has to prove a superiority to Kirin in all stats : durability (Erza took all the spells and continue until the end), strategy (Erza understood her Magic and made a parade to move inside the dimension), Magic power (Erza took over the entire Magic of Misaki), strength (while enrage, Erza litterally one shot Misaki with a final blow).

As for Misaki and Kirin, yes Misaki was push under her retreachment and use her hidden spells against him. But nothing suggest Kirin didn't deal the same as well and who won the contest between them. But, for sure, Kirin didn't take over the Dimension like Erza did as Misaki was shock when that happen. She didn't say "You are as strong as Kirin"..... She is litterally in the way "that's impossible, I am a Goddess here".

So, no, just winning vs Kirin isn't enough. We have to see the battle. For now, Erza has better feat. Like all the Quest Team who improve a lot here (Lucy and Wendy did very well against monsters). Unlike people, I am waiting for Grey's improvement before the final contest with the Dragons.



That was casual Misaki without using her Dimension while Kirin was being compare to the old man when he got Laxus' blow pushing him to be serious. That put them equal by hype as serious Misaki, under her Dimension, is stronger than the one who was cocky facing Erza at the begining. Both are even.

It’s cool if that’s how you feel, that doesn’t change the circumstances though. The validating factor for the BDSKs is the feat against and opinion of Selene the Dragon God. She has only mentioned one contender for the strongest. Kirin is the Knight to beat. This is the context he was introduced in for a reason. Laxus performance against him is plenty. You mention durability yet he takes more blows than Erza inintially and was still ready for combat throughout and when next we saw him. Strategy, Laxus was able to hit Kirin with his hax activated ending his bragging about being untouchable. MP and strength, he broke through Kirin’s hax with 1 hit and did enough damage to make him get serious. Something it took Erza 2 chapters to accomplish.

Erza did amazing, but the peak of her battle is literally Misaki using a power she said she needed to face Kirin. Not beat, not overpower, she needed it against him. Her peak feat is being a challenge to the person Laxus is set up to defeat.

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GL_Nova, that is the plan, not a threat, and she even attacked her friends before, the fact that Erza didn't move on her own means that Laxus could resist long enough to defend which means that Kyria is stronger then, since it is an isolated moment.

That line of reasoning makes zero since. She isn’t doing anything to them but talking shit, and Erza didn’t break out or resist. So whatever immediate threat you thought she saw, she couldn’t do it. Laxus closed the distance and took the blow, protecting her with his size before he was even aware of it. That’s what makes it instinct. Either way, Laxus has better feat here.

 

[WoWfan]

No, she along with Diabolos was planning on eating them, she saw even her friends cut up by Kyria before and she did not even try to defend them too, so Laxus has resisted it which is mental effort, correction he stated that he couldn’t stand by and do nothing, that is what makes it resistant, anyway, by that logic, Kyria is stronger

 

[GL_Nova]

No, she along with Diabolos was planning on eating them, she saw even her friends cut up by Kyria before and she did not even try to defend them too, so Laxus has resisted it which is mental effort, correction he stated that he couldn’t stand by and do nothing, that is what makes it resistant, anyway, by that logic, Kyria is stronger

If he was able to still move and do what his conscious demanded how is she stronger?? Again, don’t get what your trying to argue here bro.

 

[WoWfan]

Because stats Would rely on magic power in order to avoid damage, hence why Laxus could block her cuts before without being harmed.

 

[GL_Nova]

Because stats Would rely on magic power in order to avoid damage, hence why Laxus could block her cuts before without being harmed.

Yeah, MP takes intent.

 

[WoWfan]

Which Laxus did show intent as he stated he couldn’t stand by and watch

 

[Natsu Goatneel]

Ok, no.

Base Wendy was overwhelmed by Haku, who wasn't even willing to defeat her by hurting her.

Spoiler: Haku overwhelmed Wendy with his speed...

Spoiler: ...physical strength...

Spoiler: ...and his plushies.

She would've lost the fight if it wasn't for Irene interfering.

Spoiler: Irene using a Multi-Body Enchant to take over Haku's plushies and use them against him

She literally used her Dragon Force, which is the strongest form that a Dragon Slayer can attain, and used her strongest offensive spell.

Spoiler: Wendy going DF

Spoiler: Wendy using Sky Drill in her DF

Nope, because Wendy's magic was literally negating his.

Spoiler: Wendy negating Haku's magic

Hum, his magic worked on Natsu and Lucy because the both of them aren't enchanters.

Spoiler: Haku turning NaLu and Happy into plushies

Bro, what? Her Deus spells don't rend hax useless against her. You confuse it with Re-raise.




Bro, Wendy is 5x stronger than Haku based on what?? She literally struggled with a playing around Haku, and had to use her strongest mode and offensive spell to defeat him.

Suzaku, Kirin and Misaki are much stronger than Haku and Wendy. I absolutely agree that they portrayed to be equals back in the day, but their feats outclasses his by a large margin. They literally faced some of Fairy Tail top tiers, Natsu, Laxus and Erza, and these three are portrayed to be far above Wendy since years lmao.

This Wendy wank has gotten worse and worse for years? That's too much now.

Yeah I didn't read the fight correctly. I missed that Wendy had to use all her power to win. I thought she defeated him in base. Also, Haku's magic working on Natsu & Lucy is not a knock to Wendy's power. It simply means Wendy has far more versatile magic than anyone in FT as she can literally counter most hax.

They are NOT much stronger. They are noticably Stronger due to better haxes and more mp but it's not a massive gap. You even said it yourself, Wendy only won due to Irene's interference. Natsu can't beat Haku without his DF stat amps to blitz & oneshot him. Wendy is very comparable to Erza & co now just weaker. Wendy is definitely stronger than Gajeel & Gray rn on feats & portrayal. As for Deus I wasn't saying it nullifies abnormalities, I just simply summed it up all in one cuz I forgot the other spell's name. I was paraphrasing that basically Wendy can double her stats & negate most haxes. I worded it incorrectly is all.