Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[WoWfan]

No, no I fucking didn't. I asked you ver-fucking-batim why should I listen to him over August The Magic King. An you did the same shit you always do, pick a random part of my
Message and make an entire response about that shit instead of answer the question. This is why I constantly make a mockery of why I don't listen to your responses my dude.

Now when I don't waste a week of back and forth pointing out Ajeel was only a threat because another wizard had EVERY HOLDER MAGE IN THE CITY ON LOCK. When I ignore the point that Erza hasn't been compared to Laxus since, and that Makarov hoped she stood a chance not thought she would win (because he himself wanted to go fight Laxus and couldn't get out but you CONSTANTLY IGNORE THIS), you get to pretend I'm the problem. You duck and dodge. Need to change ya name to mfing @DuckTales

Because Zeref said go for it which trumps what August says (but stopped him for other personal reasons). And yet has to dodge the likes of Cana, so by that logic he is weaker than Cana. Because there was no reason to fight Laxus, that was the comparison being made. No, Makarov said she might stand a chance, but couldn’t while turned to stone, there is a massive difference between “hoped” and “might”, you are thinking Natsu.

 

[Darklord#10]

Wowfan is a certified clown lmao. Lucy is star level

 

[WoWfan]

This is what happens when Hiro makes things clear.

also, Lucy via Godfried only with aid and prep time moving stars

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[GodSlayer666]

You are ignoring a question asked directly to the author about the Spriggan 12 power order list

The same Mashima who forget Irene in the dragon slayer ranking and the same Mashima who sometimes ranks Natsu as Gray level and sometimes at Laxus level, my doubt is just the greater sign being used right after August and Irene and never used anymore.

Mashima said that was a character difficult to deal because her power is so strong that the author himself had trouble to create ways to defeat her

C'mon her opponents were Wendy and Sherria, if Blueonote was enough against them ofcourse the fight would be insanely hard even with Ultear support.

Let me remind you that Gray, someone who has known Gildarts since always, described Brandish's magic power as "It's like nothing I've sensed before."

At this point Gray only knew Jura level Gildarts, it was Natsu who saw him before Alvarez.

Thus, what makes you think that Gildart's magic power is above Brandish to be enough to nullify her Command T? Neinhart is also a Spriggan (so obviously he is at Spriggan level) and only after he was enhanced by Irene's Enchantments he could nullify Bradish's mass manipulation on him. The fact that Brandish was shocked about it and that she stated that Neinhart was immune to her magic NOW already proved it. She also stated that Irene made him far stronger because of this feat.

I also put Laxus above regular spriggan level, Ajeel would have died to his nuke no matter the excuses people are bringing here, so ofcourse people like Gildarts, Laxus and Jellal would be immune to Command T.

In the end, it doesn't matter if Gildarts can beat Neinhart or Larcade, because the first opponent has an obvious weakness: he can't fight in the front line, because his endurance is low, however, if he fought hiding himself he has the kind of power to give Gildarts a really hard time; in Larcade's case, he is a more complete fighter than Neinhart, but we don't know how much time would take to Gildarts fall for his 3 magics that works on human sensations (pleasure, hunger, and sleep), even so, Larcade's magic worked on Gildarts, Irene, and Zeref said that could work even on Acnologia, which obviously put his magic beyond Gildart's magic level reach and also beyond the regular Spriggan level magic reach.
Not necessarily the expression "If A defeats B and B can defeat C, A also would defeat C" needs to be true.
By portrayal, Gildarts stayed on the floor rendered by Larcade's AOE pleasure spell, so there is the hint that Gildarts wouldn't even be able to put up a fight against him, even though Gildarts is stronger than the wizard who defeated Larcade.

Larcade can beat almost everyone depending on the distance, but this because of his HAX, which should be even greater than August hax too as nobody said he could copy Acnologia's magic and it obviously cannot be assumed. Both Pleasure and RIP can be countered by pain, so in close distance if Gildarts hurts himself he should be able to win as Larcade stats are not as high as his, when Gildarts was affected he didn't knew how Pleasure worked. The matchups may depends on circumstances, but normally the A>B>C logic can be applied,'' rock, paper, scissors'' are actually exceptions, and yes Laracde magic can work in rock, paper, scissors but only with distance.

The fact that God Serena isn't the third strongest Spriggan and that he isn't stronger than Dimaria (because of her main magic) is too obvious, so stop denying it.

So Brandish wanting to JUST FIND the key insted of keeping it was obvious? Wall being the weakest spriggan was obvious? If i simply follow what is ''obvious'' i would have 100YQ Gray as Dragon Force Natsu level because Mashima equalized Gray to Natsu

 

[Ratrace]

C'mon her opponents were Wendy and Sherria, if Blueonote was enough against them ofcourse the fight would be insanely hard even with Ultear support.

They mostly won because Ultear was a counter to Dimiria magic and Sherria’s power up she got from Ultear aging her quickly

 

[GL_Nova]

Because Zeref said go for it which trumps what August says (but stopped him for other personal reasons). And yet has to dodge the likes of Cana, so by that logic he is weaker than Cana. Because there was no reason to fight Laxus, that was the comparison being made. No, Makarov said she might stand a chance, but couldn’t while turned to stone, there is a massive difference between “hoped” and “might”, you are thinking Natsu.

Nope, she never got better than might which is synonymous with hoped. Neither is a sure declaration of superiority or ability.

So still now answer? Cause you went back to talkin about his opinion that he could take on all Ishgar, which they all shut down, not my actual question. One last time before I got back to ignoring you.


Why should we believe Ajeel's opinion on the attack instead of August the Magic King.

 

[WoWfan]

Nope, she never got better than might which is synonymous with hoped. Neither is a sure declaration of superiority or ability.

So still now answer? Cause you went back to talkin about his opinion that he could take on all Ishgar, which they all shut down, not my actual question. One last time before I got back to ignoring you.


Why should we believe Ajeel's opinion on the attack instead of August the Magic King.

She did get better, don’t know what you mean, hope is wanting something to happen (bias, intentionally wanting or making happen based on desire) while might is a possibility to be true (unbias, can lead to any outcome with or without intervention), big difference. No one shut it down as stated, Zeref said he would let him go if not for his decision to attack all together for personal reasons, it is not a matter of opinion but on stating something from someone superior to August or Invel who is chief of staff. That is the answer.

 

[GodSlayer666]

They mostly won because Ultear was a counter to Dimiria magic and Sherria’s power up she got from Ultear aging her quickly

I know i know, my point was just that the fight was hard because Dimaria opponents were far from being top tiers and needed some counters and special magics.

But talking about current topic, why Ajeel opinion is being taken seriously?

 

[WoWfan]

I know i know, my point was just that the fight was hard because Dimaria opponents were far from being top tiers and needed some counters and special magics.

But talking about current topic, why Ajeel opinion is being taken seriously?

The person above GL Laxus thinks that Ajeel could effortlessly be beaten by Laxus since he struggled against Wall (though he may have a counter to his lightning but he could not physically harm Wall, and Laxus still operated normally before the illness hampered him). Since (I don’t think he can solo all of Ishtar at once) Zeref would let him go if not for personal reasons that it requires everyone to attack at once.

GL Laxus: “Why would you assume that? I mean if Ajeel is stronger and Laxus was stated by continually stated to be above the rest August to one-shot him. Laxus struggle being Wahl's counter and his own illness makes his deathbed performance no less impressive.”

 

[Ratrace]

But talking about current topic, why Ajeel opinion is being taken seriously?

I don’t know, I most think it’s Ajeel just being arrogant. To be fair base on some of the information he does have I don’t 100% blame him.

 

[GodSlayer666]

The person above GL Laxus thinks that Ajeel could effortlessly be beaten by Laxus since he struggled against Wall (though he may have a counter to his lightning but he could not physically harm Wall, and Laxus still operated normally before the illness hampered him). Since (I don’t think he can solo all of Ishtar at once) Zeref would let him go if not for personal reasons that it requires everyone to attack at once.

Couldn't he? Ajeel is the same spriggan who was beaten by Elfman and LISANNA, while Laxus effortlessly defeated Madmole (who stalemated Elfman) and Skullion, and there is no reason to think that Laxus improved something more than his red lightning control at the start of 100YQ. Wall immunity to lightning what makes Laxus struggle. And even Wall admitted that he could be beaten by Laxus with his analysis, so he could damage Wall

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Wall also lost his cool when Laxus, he was visibly sweating even knowing that lightning was still no use. Being honest, he was almost in panic.

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Zeref didn't let Ajeel go alone because he would obviously get beaten, Team Natsu was already making him struggle a little before Makarov appeared to stop them, knowing what happened later in the arc it's clear that they would be more than enough to put Ajeel down, and i still see no reason for Laxus to not effortlessly solo him, even Neinhart was afraid of Jellal GC and tried to appeal to his guilty about Simon to stop him, if he could use something else to stop him i'm sure he would have used it, but reality is that he was effortlessly soloed too, Fairy Tail top tiers are simply above regular spriggans

 

[WoWfan]

Couldn't he? Ajeel is the same spriggan who was beaten by Elfman and LISANNA, while Laxus effortlessly defeated Madmole (who stalemated Elfman) and Skullion, and there is no reason to think that Laxus improved something more than his red lightning control at the start of 100YQ. Wall immunity to lightning what makes Laxus struggle. And even Wall admitted that he could be beaten by Laxus with his analysis, so he could damage Wall

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Wall also lost his cool when Laxus, he was visibly sweating even knowing that lightning was still no use. Being honest, he was almost in panic.

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Zeref didn't let Ajeel go alone because he would obviously get beaten, Team Natsu was already making him struggle a little before Makarov appeared to stop them, knowing what happened later in the arc it's clear that they would be more than enough to put Ajeel down, and i still see no reason for Laxus to not effortlessly solo him, even Neinhart was afraid of Jellal GC and tried to appeal to his guilty about Simon to stop him, if he could use something else to stop him i'm sure he would have used it, but reality is that he was effortlessly soloed too, Fairy Tail top tiers are simply above regular spriggans

Remember that Elfman and Lisanna had teamwork, while one could counter Ajeel’s sand powers, the other could compensate for the former’s own drawbacks. And Natsu even called Eflman strong after the timeskip. Elfman was in base by the time Madmole and Skullion ran away and he had help from Mira too who wasn’t going all out. Laxus shouldn’t be any weaker than he is now since had to have trained to gain control of his red lightning As well. Laxus had physical strength as well apart from his lightning, which he was not strong enough to even bruise Wall. Correction, he said that his previous personality could be exploited for weaknesses by the enemy, he lost his cool due to his unintentional error made by curing Laxus. Zeref said that if he was strong enought he would let him go, but told him they would attack together for personal reasons.

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Ajeel hardly struggled especially when he got a little serious which prompted Makarov to intervene. Even Erza was on death’s door by him solo without Bisca’s surprise attack. Neinhart did oneshot him prior, and that can be because of Erza’s aura that made his Historias disappear after he beat her. Not saying that top tiers aren’t just not soloing, especially after what happened with recent chapters, regular Spriggans still have relative strength to hold their own with peak Dragon Gods.

 

[GodSlayer666]

Remember that Elfman and Lisanna had teamwork, while one could counter Ajeel’s sand powers, the other could compensate for the former’s own drawbacks. And Natsu even called Eflman strong after the timeskip. Elfman was in base by the time Madmole and Skullion ran away and he had help from Mira too who wasn’t going all out. Laxus shouldn’t be any weaker than he is now since had to have trained to gain control of his red lightning As well. Laxus had physical strength as well apart from his lightning, which he was not strong enough to even bruise Wall. Correction, he said that his previous personality could be exploited for weaknesses by the enemy, he lost his cool due to his unintentional error made by curing Laxus.

Besides the gap between the Strauss duo combined and Laxus we August thinking that Ajeel would have died to Laxus, so many evidences of Laxus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ajeel to ignore. The fight of the Strauss against Diabolos was offscreened, we can't say that Mirajane didn't went all out or that Elfman didn't used any other form after the lion form deactivation, the later being the hardest to assume.

Zeref said that if he was strong enought he would let him go, but told him they would attack together for personal reasons.

How this contradicts August thinking that Ajeel was fodder to Laxus exactly?

Ajeel hardly struggled especially when he got a little serious which prompted Makarov to intervene. Even Erza was on death’s door by him solo without Bisca’s surprise attack. Neinhart did oneshot him prior, and that can be because of Erza’s aura that made his Historias disappear after he beat her. Not saying that top tiers aren’t just not soloing, especially after what happened with recent chapters, regular Spriggans still have relative strength to hold their own with peak Dragon Gods.

Erza alone was able of making him struggle a lot, the rest of the team should be a better support than Bisca, Natsu by himself should be able to solo when his emotions amp him to Laxus level. Jellal received the full blown to protect Kagura (characters usually are harmed more when they are making a sacrifice like that one) and he was K.Oed mostly due to being drowned instead of Neinhart shot, otherwise why Kagura needed to do the mouth to mouth breathing? Better question, why he didn't tried to one shot Jellal again if he was able of doing so? Jellal was even charging an attack. His historias relies on the opponent memories anyway, it's very circumstancial. Some spriggans were literally soloed. I didn't liked Merc vs Lucy chapter but at least people gave thousands of excuses on how neither Lucy nor Brandish were relevant for a dragon god

 

[WoWfan]

Besides the gap between the Strauss duo combined and Laxus we August thinking that Ajeel would have died to Laxus, so many evidences of Laxus>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ajeel to ignore. The fight of the Strauss against Diabolos was offscreened, we can't say that Mirajane didn't went all out or that Elfman didn't used any other form after the lion form deactivation, the later being the hardest to assume.


How this contradicts August thinking that Ajeel was fodder to Laxus exactly?



Erza alone was able of making him struggle a lot, the rest of the team should be a better support than Bisca, Natsu by himself should be able to solo when his emotions amp him to Laxus level. Jellal received the full blown to protect Kagura (characters usually are harmed more when they are making a sacrifice like that one) and he was K.Oed mostly due to being drowned instead of Neinhart shot, otherwise why Kagura needed to do the mouth to mouth breathing? Better question, why he didn't tried to one shot Jellal again if he was able of doing so? Jellal was even charging an attack. His historias relies on the opponent memories anyway, it's very circumstancial. Some spriggans were literally soloed. I didn't liked Merc vs Lucy chapter but at least people gave thousands of excuses on how neither Lucy nor Brandish were relevant for a dragon god

Did he though? because Ajeel was not traumatized when the attack failed like Flare was, he recovered just fine. The Strauss uses weakness to compensate for stat difference, like with Natsu via Demon Transformation vs Gray with Devil Slayer Powers, or weakened Wendy vs Zirconis. it doesn't matter, we got to see most of it and statements how the fight was pretty even, especially when Elfman was in base by the end of it before the DEs ran away without showing signs of deactivation midway to indicate it was recent. Yes we can since that is stated since GMG that is how she fights, she doesn't go all out when there are people watching her, but when she is alone she can let loose.

August and neither Invel calls Ajeel out for his outbursts even when he clearly said Zeref was "out of his mind", and those two worship the ground that Zeref walks and Zeref said Ajeel was find to go if not for personal reasons, August's intervention was not really necessary.

Ajeel had her by the throat even when she had weaknesses against him, this would show that weakness alone is not enough to one v one a Spriggan. Natsu's arm which had Igneel's power reacted violently to base Spriggans powers without the latter even flexing. that is not really how drowning works, it takes time before you drown as you hold your breath, if he did drown, the same can be said for Kagura, and women generally tend to have shorter time to hold their breath due to smaller lung capacities, but he was out cold right away when he could have just pushed the anchor out of the way, even Kagura could get out of that. Jellal could just dodge, top tier wizards tend to scale to one another in many fields. Neinhart was trying to stop Jellal even while charging via mental tricks. Spriggans with their showings either have to have weakness, power-ups, team ups or wizards of relative strength to combat them. That didn't stop them from injuring a Dragon God with their own power.

 

[GodSlayer666]

Did he though? because Ajeel was not traumatized when the attack failed like Flare was, he recovered just fine. The Strauss uses weakness to compensate for stat difference, like with Natsu via Demon Transformation vs Gray with Devil Slayer Powers, or weakened Wendy vs Zirconis. it doesn't matter, we got to see most of it and statements how the fight was pretty even, especially when Elfman was in base by the end of it before the DEs ran away without showing signs of deactivation midway to indicate it was recent. Yes we can since that is stated since GMG that is how she fights, she doesn't go all out when there are people watching her, but when she is alone she can let loose.

Bro was just too proud to realize that he would be doomed. I can also speculate that Skullion didn't used Black Ash because it could have hit Madmole too and Elfman never using a beast soul again feels stretching, even because Madmole can easily deactivate his forms so it's

August and neither Invel calls Ajeel out for his outbursts even when he clearly said Zeref was "out of his mind", and those two worship the ground that Zeref walks and Zeref said Ajeel was find to go if not for personal reasons, August's intervention was not really necessary.

Is this the official translation? The Mangapark's one makes more sense as Zeref even thought Ajeel was delusional

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Besides if Zeref really thought Ajeel would be enough to solo Ishgar he would simply be one of the dumbest characters in the series.

Ajeel had her by the throat even when she had weaknesses against him, this would show that weakness alone is not enough to one v one a Spriggan. Natsu's arm which had Igneel's power reacted violently to base Spriggans powers without the latter even flexing. that is not really how drowning works, it takes time before you drown as you hold your breath, if he did drown, the same can be said for Kagura, and women generally tend to have shorter time to hold their breath due to smaller lung capacities, but he was out cold right away when he could have just pushed the anchor out of the way, even Kagura could get out of that. Jellal could just dodge, top tier wizards tend to scale to one another in many fields. Neinhart was trying to stop Jellal even while charging via mental tricks. Spriggans with their showings either have to have weakness, power-ups, team ups or wizards of relative strength to combat them. That didn't stop them from injuring a Dragon God with their own power.

And the same Natsu one shotted ENCHANTED Neinhart with just a punch. But it was Jellal who received the FULL blow precisely to protect Kagura, this is how it works. The moment he reappeared he simply proceed to solo Neinhart, who could just try to stop him using his own guilty about Simon, if he was powerful enough to one shot him again he would but reality he wasn't, he was just lucky about Kagura being a fodder to him and Jellal wanting to protect her due to her being Simon's brother. The manga is not about real science and like i said in most fictional works the characters who uses themselves as human shield tend to be way more harmed than they would be in a direct fight, and Jellal has the addition of the ocean to drown him. In the end Jellal just used GC and Nienhart was done, the mental tricks were more cowardice than a actual technique. People bothered me with the Lacrima, but now it's useful for me now as i can say: without the lacrima there would be no injury.

 

[WoWfan]

Bro was just too proud to realize that he would be doomed. I can also speculate that Skullion didn't used Black Ash because it could have hit Madmole too and Elfman never using a beast soul again feels stretching, even because Madmole can easily deactivate his forms so it's



Is this the official translation? The Mangapark's one makes more sense as Zeref even thought Ajeel was delusional

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Besides if Zeref really thought Ajeel would be enough to solo Ishgar he would simply be one of the dumbest characters in the series.



And the same Natsu one shotted ENCHANTED Neinhart with just a punch. But it was Jellal who received the FULL blow precisely to protect Kagura, this is how it works. The moment he reappeared he simply proceed to solo Neinhart, who could just try to stop him using his own guilty about Simon, if he was powerful enough to one shot him again he would but reality he wasn't, he was just lucky about Kagura being a fodder to him and Jellal wanting to protect her due to her being Simon's brother. The manga is not about real science and like i said in most fictional works the characters who uses themselves as human shield tend to be way more harmed than they would be in a direct fight, and Jellal has the addition of the ocean to drown him. In the end Jellal just used GC and Nienhart was done, the mental tricks were more cowardice than a actual technique. People bothered me with the Lacrima, but now it's useful for me now as i can say: without the lacrima there would be no injury.

He maybe arrogant, but he at least has power to back up his boosting, not enough to take on Ishgar all at once but still perform well. Black Ash would not have really helped since it can be countered rather easily, whether by wind or other abilities.

It is from the official translations, manga4life uploads official translated volumes as soon as made available. I would feel that August and Invel would be more so for enabling him if so for letting Ajeel talk like that or when Zeref considered Ajeel so. LoL

Technically two shot but besides the point, enchanted Neinhart is special because His magic is just enchanted, not his body, the wizard’s body stats is tied to the level of magic power they can hold, otherwise it would damage them. That would be more credence as to how he would be knocked out. Considering that this is likely peak Jellal would put him above every other showings.

Again, Jellal would just dodge, he was fast enough to intercept his attack to protect Kagura when she suffered mentally, that shows he could repeat the same speed feat. You be surprise how many things magic does with following scientific values, Hiro said that magic in FT just makes things easier to achieve compared to real world. Again, if the attack would not have harmed him, then he would not have drowned as he would just swim to the surface, him being knocked out by the attack would make more sense that would lead to him drowning as he takes in water right away.

but the better question is where did that Anchor come from that was on top of them? We didn’t see the attack hit any part of the ship that had it located.

That GC was definitely stronger than the other spells he used considered that it parted the atmosphere and those stars traveled faster than the speed of light to hit him. Who said they have to play fair when he did that before? Seemed to work last time, it just shows he had limited options and Jellal was too much of an emo to attack Simon lol. I don’t think that is how that works, since the Dragons are not harmed by the magic they take and project at their peak it would not have harmed them physically, and DS magic of the user can’t hurt said user afaik, like with Natsu and Silver.

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

The same Mashima who forget Irene in the dragon slayer ranking and the same Mashima who sometimes ranks Natsu as Gray level and sometimes at Laxus level, my doubt is just the greater sign being used right after August and Irene and never used anymore.

The same you who denies everything said in the official sources to keep your own "peculiar" logic. Honestly, I will not waste my time discussing it more with you.

 

[GodSlayer666]

He maybe arrogant, but he at least has power to back up his boosting, not enough to take on Ishgar all at once but still perform well.

Perform well against teh entire Ishgar? Erza alone was already stalling him.

Black Ash would not have really helped since it can be countered rather easily, whether by wind or other abilities.

Skullion intangibility can be bypassed by wind and other abilities, but we never saw Black Ash being countered, even Ajeel's Sand World wasn't easily countered by water.

It is from the official translations, manga4life uploads official translated volumes as soon as made available. I would feel that August and Invel would be more so for enabling him if so for letting Ajeel talk like that or when Zeref considered Ajeel so. LoL

Don't really know why August and Invel didn't replied him, but if Zeref would really have let Ajeel go alone without his personal reasons then he was really out of his mind or he secretly wanted to get rid of Ajeel

Again, Jellal would just dodge, he was fast enough to intercept his attack to protect Kagura when she suffered mentally, that shows he could repeat the same speed feat. You be surprise how many things magic does with following scientific values, Hiro said that magic in FT just makes things easier to achieve compared to real world. Again, if the attack would not have harmed him, then he would not have drowned as he would just swim to the surface, him being knocked out by the attack would make more sense that would lead to him drowning as he takes in water right away.

I know that Jella could dodge, but he did the exact opposite to protect Kagura. If he could intercept the attack? Probably not as we saw how things went, maybe he could and the plot induced stupidity in him? But i prefer to think that in this specific circumstance he couldn't. Think in situations like Bloodman not using better curses, why didn't he used them? Maybe plot stupidity, but i prefer to think that he didn't thought he needed until it was too late for him to use. And not saying the attack was harmless, but it harmed him more than it would if he wasn't protecting Kagura. If Jellal could have been already uncounscious before the drown? Maybe, but i don't give this much credit to Neinhart as he didn't used the attack again to stop Jellal.

but the better question is where did that Anchor come from that was on top of them? We didn’t see the attack hit any part of the ship that had it located.

In the anime it seemed that Anchor was falling right after them. Don't maybe inside the ship.

Who said they have to play fair when he did that before?

Well, to measure the power of a character i analyze if he is using unfair tactics, so if a character needs to use unfair tacticts to beat another character this another character should be stronger.

I don’t think that is how that works, since the Dragons are not harmed by the magic they take and project at their peak it would not have harmed them physically, and DS magic of the user can’t hurt said user afaik, like with Natsu and Silver.

Talking like this it just make the dragon gods look like frauds Anyway Brandish may just be the best support in Fairy Tail, her gigantification give to a character a booster so massive that people like Irene cannot replicate with her enchantments. Irene can enchant people to make them stronger, but Brandish makes people even stronger, is Brandish stronger than Irene? Nope, just different abilities having different effects on people, if Brandish herself tried to ragdoll Merc she probably would have failed, Lucy had Taurus Star Dress when she was gigantified which gave her better strength, and Gajeel had the dragon slayer advantage against Aldoron.

 

[WoWfan]

Perform well against teh entire Ishgar? Erza alone was already stalling him.



Skullion intangibility can be bypassed by wind and other abilities, but we never saw Black Ash being countered, even Ajeel's Sand World wasn't easily countered by water.



Don't really know why August and Invel didn't replied him, but if Zeref would really have let Ajeel go alone without his personal reasons then he was really out of his mind or he secretly wanted to get rid of Ajeel



I know that Jella could dodge, but he did the exact opposite to protect Kagura. If he could intercept the attack? Probably not as we saw how things went, maybe he could and the plot induced stupidity in him? But i prefer to think that in this specific circumstance he couldn't. Think in situations like Bloodman not using better curses, why didn't he used them? Maybe plot stupidity, but i prefer to think that he didn't thought he needed until it was too late for him to use. And not saying the attack was harmless, but it harmed him more than it would if he wasn't protecting Kagura. If Jellal could have been already uncounscious before the drown? Maybe, but i don't give this much credit to Neinhart as he didn't used the attack again to stop Jellal.



In the anime it seemed that Anchor was falling right after them. Don't maybe inside the ship.



Well, to measure the power of a character i analyze if he is using unfair tactics, so if a character needs to use unfair tacticts to beat another character this another character should be stronger.


Talking like this it just make the dragon gods look like frauds Anyway Brandish may just be the best support in Fairy Tail, her gigantification give to a character a booster so massive that people like Irene cannot replicate with her enchantments. Irene can enchant people to make them stronger, but Brandish makes people even stronger, is Brandish stronger than Irene? Nope, just different abilities having different effects on people, if Brandish herself tried to ragdoll Merc she probably would have failed, Lucy had Taurus Star Dress when she was gigantified which gave her better strength, and Gajeel had the dragon slayer advantage against Aldoron.

I said not all of Ishgal, but he definitely goes through most of them one on one fresh, likely stops after hard battle with Laxus before losing, he seemed to have likely beat FT the first time had Makarov not intervened.

It was countered by Brandish’ magic, since it is ash, the same can be said, otherwise he would have done the same against FT in their second round Instead of leaving it to Madmole. Sand World was more about power and amount that it can overcome that.

Maybe Ajeel was really a threat to him, he did become emperor in the end, and Invel was in prison and August was dead, lol.

Because he protected a comrade who was suffering mentally and an enemy who would take advantage of that, if she wasn’t then she could have likley dodged too. Well he was using one of his better curses and FT could escape them too. Maybe, but going by a case by case assessment, look at when Jellal who lost his memory, physically hurt and nerfed in power who did something similar for Natsu when defending him against Zero? He blocked an attack that Natsu barely could stop and took damage from and while Jellal was injured he could stay conscious, and gave him power of the flame of guilt And then Fell conscious, that is why it would be likely fruitless since he could dodge which makes sense since he intercepted the attack, to answer before, dodging and intercepting are relative to reaction speed.

I don’t know about that anime part, not saying that it didn’t happen but personally it feels rather forced with how that chain seems to be aware and went after the two, why? Did Jellal kill it’s brother too? LOL

Well it was the better of the other options he had which one Jellal could dodge, but this one he couldn’t use his attack and probably would allow to attack him because his an emo. Lol. It was likely a case of who would go down first kind of situation.

Well they have not performed well throughout their appearances, I would likely have called them the “fraud gods”. LoL, but aside that, I would not say that for Irene, she did managed to push and react to Acnologia who acknowledged her strength in their bout. I don’t think increasing combat capabilities would be that much of difference in affect. And a Demon could melt even a DG, the only reason it survived is likely because of it’s nature magic to grow back. I doubt Taurus Dress made much of a difference since Brandish barehanded could stop it’s kick, and Gajeel came out of a fight with Natsu so his strength was limited.

 

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She did get better, don’t know what you mean, hope is wanting something to happen (bias, intentionally wanting or making happen based on desire) while might is a possibility to be true (unbias, can lead to any outcome with or without intervention), big difference. No one shut it down as stated, Zeref said he would let him go if not for his decision to attack all together for personal reasons, it is not a matter of opinion but on stating something from someone superior to August or Invel who is chief of staff. That is the answer.

Dude, what does Zeref's comment have to do about their assessment of that particular spell? Anyways, back to ignoring you senior @DuckTales

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 10, 2025, Original Post Date: Jan 10, 2025 ---

The person above GL Laxus thinks that Ajeel could effortlessly be beaten by Laxus since he struggled against Wall (though he may have a counter to his lightning but he could not physically harm Wall, and Laxus still operated normally before the illness hampered him). Since (I don’t think he can solo all of Ishtar at once) Zeref would let him go if not for personal reasons that it requires everyone to attack at once.

GL Laxus: “Why would you assume that? I mean if Ajeel is stronger and Laxus was stated by continually stated to be above the rest August to one-shot him. Laxus struggle being Wahl's counter and his own illness makes his deathbed performance no less impressive.”

Bruh. This man reading comprehension is horrible. That explains soooo damn much.