Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

[Star Frost]

You mean Lucy? I placed her above F&F

You got her below lol. And how is Wendy that high?

 

[WoWfan]

You got her below lol. And how is Wendy that high?

I did, look here

as for Wendy, she managed to harm and push back full power Selene.

 

[MyaHeart35]

I did, look here

as for Wendy, she managed to harm and push back full power Selene.

I still wouldn't put Wendy that high. She is overrated now that she doesn't have Irene. Lucy is stronger.

 

[WoWfan]

I still wouldn't put Wendy that high. She is overrated now that she doesn't have Irene. Lucy is stronger.

I would honestly wait and see later now that she had the Merc Key. The reason I put her high up because of her potential which Irene saw in her.

 

[Rigel]

The villains are dragons, so I believe their maximum power level is that of the Dragon Kings.

We know that Georg killed some, so it's possible for humanity to face the Dragon Kings and succeed.

Brandish mentioned in this arc that her magic doesn't affect dragons, so this makes these villains above Spriggans.

I think they could all be on par with Irene Dragon.

 

[Shiki_Dragneel]

Brandish mentioned in this arc that her magic doesn't affect dragons, so this makes these villains above Spriggans.

I think she meant the MP of dragons. Because her magic also didn't work on Neinhart after Irene enchanted him, so I think, she can't use her magic on everyone who has more MP than herself.


But I agree that the dragons must be stronger than most of the S12 members, but the question is, if Mashima will also potray them this way.

DG are also stronger than the S12 and yet, no one showed us any good feat, they didn't even use spells that reached some 100 meters or caused big destructions. Like the S12 did.


I really hope that the 5 will show us the TRUE power of a dragon. It can't be that we always get spells that can at max destroy a building instead of mountain crasher spells, spells that they can use, but never do.

 

[Rigel]

I think she meant the MP of dragons. Because her magic also didn't work on Neinhart after Irene enchanted him, so I think, she can't use her magic on everyone who has more MP than herself.


But I agree that the dragons must be stronger than most of the S12 members, but the question is, if Mashima will also potray them this way.

DG are also stronger than the S12 and yet, no one showed us any good feat, they didn't even use spells that reached some 100 meters or caused big destructions. Like the S12 did.


I really hope that the 5 will show us the TRUE power of a dragon. It can't be that we always get spells that can at max destroy a building instead of mountain crasher spells, spells that they can use, but never do.

The Dragon Gods have some strange feats that imply they pose a threat to the planet, but I'm a bit lazy to look them up.

Yes, yes. Brandish is unable to affect dragons with her Hax. Without this, she would need to fight them in a physical confrontation, and that would be extremely disadvantageous.

Overall, the Spriggans (with the exception of Irene and August) shouldn't pose any threat to the current group of villains.

Regarding feats, I also want an adequate representation of these characters' power levels. Mashima has avoided exploring the villains' power, and that's annoying.

 

[Shiki_Dragneel]

The Dragon Gods have some strange feats that imply they pose a threat to the planet, but I'm a bit lazy to look them up.

Yes, yes. Brandish is unable to affect dragons with her Hax. Without this, she would need to fight them in a physical confrontation, and that would be extremely disadvantageous.

Yep and because of that the DG looks so "weak" compared to some other villains. Even if they are stronger, but they didn't showed us things that makes them dangerous, at least not in the same way like the S12 or Tartaros did.

Overall, the Spriggans (with the exception of Irene and August) shouldn't pose any threat to the current group of villains.

Regarding feats, I also want an adequate representation of these characters' power levels. Mashima has avoided exploring the villains' power, and that's annoying.

Yep, of course they should be stronger but Mashima is lazy to show us that.
It's anoying to see that someone like Viernes use a spell to turn part of a city into gold but S12 members are destroying whole cities or Tartaros members

 

[Jhonatas Fernandes]

Kiria>Signario Sisters.

Lets talk about it.

Lusso with World Transmutation Alchemia would defeat Kiria. Lusso with Fire Alchemia would lose.

 

[grey matter]

But I agree that the dragons must be stronger than most of the S12 members, but the question is, if Mashima will also potray them this way.

DG are also stronger than the S12 and yet, no one showed us any good feat, they didn't even use spells that reached some 100 meters or caused big destructions. Like the S12 did.

Yep and because of that the DG looks so "weak" compared to some other villains. Even if they are stronger, but they didn't showed us things that makes them dangerous, at least not in the same way like the S12 or Tartaros did.

I disagree with this take.
I think people just have a rose tinted view of Tartarus and Alverez, because spinoff just sucks and the DGs have been a massive disappointment relative to their hype (of being Acnologia's peers in power).

However, their showings still completely shit on any past villains.

Merc, when massively nerfed, flipped an entire ocean to the sky. The entire team Natsu, when amped by DS magic, managed to do zero damage to Merc. Contrast that with x792 Erza one shotting dragon Eileen when amped by DS magic... Natsu needed a DF amped by Ignia's power, to defeat nerfed Merc.
Natsu's charged FDKM destruction fist, which wiped an entire city, did 0.0001% hp worth of damage to nerfed Aldaron. A fraction of Aldaron's power, Wolven seed, casually recreated the power of Zeref - the leader of the Spriggans. It required DF Natsu to defeat the main Aldo seed, after he got giga nerfed by his other seeds dying, on top of nerf of waking up rusty.
Selene's powers were destabilizing entire planets. Her dragon form one shot George, who had defeated dragon kings.
Dogramag, similar story as Aldoron. Woke up rusty, still dominated, had to be giga nerfed for the duo of Suzaku and Natsu to take him down.

While their defeats were underwhelming, and cliche boring writing of "stronk, nerfed, defeated", they weren't big disappointments power wise.
Viernes was the true disappointment here. His defeat was nonsensical.

Most of the Spriggans and Tartarus members weren't even really impressive by the way. Only Mard Geer (GOAT), Silver and Kyouka were impressive amongst demon gates, rest were bums. Only August was truly impressive amongst Spriggans; Eileen, Larcade, Serena and Dimaria (hax merchant) to a lesser extend; rest were bums too.

The villains are dragons, so I believe their maximum power level is that of the Dragon Kings.

We know that Georg killed some, so it's possible for humanity to face the Dragon Kings and succeed.

Brandish mentioned in this arc that her magic doesn't affect dragons, so this makes these villains above Spriggans.

I think they could all be on par with Irene Dragon.

Not sure what the topic is here exactly - I mean who the villains you are referring to, Ignia's goons?
If yes, yeah, I would place them much below the dragon kings though (assuming the DKs scale roughly scale to George, however Igneel was a "DK" too and he's below only Acno).

Anyway, I think Ignia's goons don't even scale above BDSK, relative to some yes, but I can't see anyone of them take down Suzaku for example.

Coming to Eileen, she probably is stronger than any of the goons bar maybe Wed (a big maybe). She won't scale to dragon kings either IMO. Remember that Animus, who scales below DKs, no diff'd x792 Natsu, and tanked several attacks from a form of DF Natsu, which was most dragonized till date. Animus should clearly scale above dragon Eileen, yet below dragon kings by portrayal.

 

[Rigel]

I disagree with this take.
I think people just have a rose tinted view of Tartarus and Alverez, because spinoff just sucks and the DGs have been a massive disappointment relative to their hype (of being Acnologia's peers in power).

However, their showings still completely shit on any past villains.

Merc, when massively nerfed, flipped an entire ocean to the sky. The entire team Natsu, when amped by DS magic, managed to do zero damage to Merc. Contrast that with x792 Erza one shotting dragon Eileen when amped by DS magic... Natsu needed a DF amped by Ignia's power, to defeat nerfed Merc.
Natsu's charged FDKM destruction fist, which wiped an entire city, did 0.0001% hp worth of damage to nerfed Aldaron. A fraction of Aldaron's power, Wolven seed, casually recreated the power of Zeref - the leader of the Spriggans. It required DF Natsu to defeat the main Aldo seed, after he got giga nerfed by his other seeds dying, on top of nerf of waking up rusty.
Selene's powers were destabilizing entire planets. Her dragon form one shot George, who had defeated dragon kings.
Dogramag, similar story as Aldoron. Woke up rusty, still dominated, had to be giga nerfed for the duo of Suzaku and Natsu to take him down.

While their defeats were underwhelming, and cliche boring writing of "stronk, nerfed, defeated", they weren't big disappointments power wise.
Viernes was the true disappointment here. His defeat was nonsensical.

Most of the Spriggans and Tartarus members weren't even really impressive by the way. Only Mard Geer (GOAT), Silver and Kyouka were impressive amongst demon gates, rest were bums. Only August was truly impressive amongst Spriggans; Eileen, Larcade, Serena and Dimaria (hax merchant) to a lesser extend; rest were bums too.



Not sure what the topic is here exactly - I mean who the villains you are referring to, Ignia's goons?
If yes, yeah, I would place them much below the dragon kings though (assuming the DKs scale roughly scale to George, however Igneel was a "DK" too and he's below only Acno).

Anyway, I think Ignia's goons don't even scale above BDSK, relative to some yes, but I can't see anyone of them take down Suzaku for example.

Coming to Eileen, she probably is stronger than any of the goons bar maybe Wed (a big maybe). She won't scale to dragon kings either IMO. Remember that Animus, who scales below DKs, no diff'd x792 Natsu, and tanked several attacks from a form of DF Natsu, which was most dragonized till date. Animus should clearly scale above dragon Eileen, yet below dragon kings by portrayal.

I think I wrote my text poorly.

I was referring to the new group of villains, the Eclipse dragons.

 

[grey matter]

I think I wrote my text poorly.

I was referring to the new group of villains, the Eclipse dragons.

Honestly had no idea they were back lol, didn't even know a chapter came out.
I just read the chapter now after you mentioned it.

Honestly, they should blow Spriggans and even Zeref out of the park, given that Ignia respects them and have high expectations for them. It doesn't make sense for a grand plan by two Dragon Gods lasting 400 years, to result in some Zeref level scrubs (though Mashima can always make it happen lol)

Even in the original eclipse, these guys were no selling even Laxus level DS attacks like they were nothing. And now they are even buffed by Dogamag. I have some good expectations of them, even though I suspect it likely won't go anywhere considering who is the author.

 

[Rigel]

Honestly had no idea they were back lol, didn't even know a chapter came out.
I just read the chapter now after you mentioned it.

Honestly, they should blow Spriggans and even Zeref out of the park, given that Ignia respects them and have high expectations for them. It doesn't make sense for a grand plan by two Dragon Gods lasting 400 years, to result in some Zeref level scrubs (though Mashima can always make it happen lol)

Even in the original eclipse, these guys were no selling even Laxus level DS attacks like they were nothing. And now they are even buffed by Dogamag. I have some good expectations of them, even though I suspect it likely won't go anywhere considering who is the author.

I agree with everything.

 

[WoWfan]

I agree with everything.

Remember that the Wizards were massively weakened by the time of the GMG. The only way for these dragons to be threatening is if their power up were somehow massively stronger than any other to the nth degree because they took damage rather easily from tired DS attacks.

 

[Shiki_Dragneel]

I disagree with this take.
I think people just have a rose tinted view of Tartarus and Alverez, because spinoff just sucks and the DGs have been a massive disappointment relative to their hype (of being Acnologia's peers in power).

However, their showings still completely shit on any past villains.

Merc, when massively nerfed, flipped an entire ocean to the sky. The entire team Natsu, when amped by DS magic, managed to do zero damage to Merc. Contrast that with x792 Erza one shotting dragon Eileen when amped by DS magic... Natsu needed a DF amped by Ignia's power, to defeat nerfed Merc.
Natsu's charged FDKM destruction fist, which wiped an entire city, did 0.0001% hp worth of damage to nerfed Aldaron. A fraction of Aldaron's power, Wolven seed, casually recreated the power of Zeref - the leader of the Spriggans. It required DF Natsu to defeat the main Aldo seed, after he got giga nerfed by his other seeds dying, on top of nerf of waking up rusty.
Selene's powers were destabilizing entire planets. Her dragon form one shot George, who had defeated dragon kings.
Dogramag, similar story as Aldoron. Woke up rusty, still dominated, had to be giga nerfed for the duo of Suzaku and Natsu to take him down.

While their defeats were underwhelming, and cliche boring writing of "stronk, nerfed, defeated", they weren't big disappointments power wise.
Viernes was the true disappointment here. His defeat was nonsensical.

Most of the Spriggans and Tartarus members weren't even really impressive by the way. Only Mard Geer (GOAT), Silver and Kyouka were impressive amongst demon gates, rest were bums. Only August was truly impressive amongst Spriggans; Eileen, Larcade, Serena and Dimaria (hax merchant) to a lesser extend; rest were bums too.

The things you said are right, they have good feats, but if we compare them with the S12 or Tartaros members (who are weaker overall) the feats from the older villains were better/ more impressive, because they are "humans" and have lesser MP and were still able to do a lot of stuff.

Merc can flip the ocean but the damage he did with that was not so impressive, he only destroyed some buildings from a harbor town. Ok he was nerfed, still, he is a DG and was hyped to be on the lvl of Acnologia.

If we look back what Tartaros or the S12 did

Spoiler: 9DG

- Jackal destroyed the whole concil and killed not only the rulers but also Lahar and 120 other people. He killed 4 or 5 characters the readers knew a long time. Later he destroyed with one spell a big part of a town and during his suicide attack he destroyed more of the town and would destroy the whole town if Happy would have not safe them.

- Ezel destroyed a whole town. Juvia was shocked and afraid how someone could to this. To defeat him Wendy needed the ethernano from the Face area, which are more pure and stronger than the ethernano in other areas in the world and she needed DF to defeat him.

- Silver froze a whole giant village including Atlas Flames power. Later he froze Natsu in 1 sec.

-Tempester with his MBP almost killed Laxus and his team plus he killed over 100 people in a city.

- Mard Geer destroyed Magnolia Town, he "defeated" all members of FT, he fought against the CSK, he fought against Natsu and the twins dragons, he fought Natsu and Gray.

Spoiler: S12

The S12
- Ajeel could use his power to create giant sandstorm, giant sand (Erza was impressed) waves (which are bigger than Makarov), he blocked Jupiter with his hand and he almost defeat Erza.

- Wall could use a spell with a range of 400KM. He used a spell with that the sky over Hargeon Town "burned", he could create soldiers and could also use Etherion.

- Brandish changed the size of a whole Island, she can destroy organs. In few secs, she did more "damage" to Mercphobias town than Merc himself. If she wanted she could kill all people in the city easily. She made Gajeel so big like Aldoron (a DG).

- Dimaria was only defeated because of god slayer magic and Ultears time magic, without that, you must have more MP to defeat her.

-Invel created a massive snowstorm, large enough to surround a large area of Fiore. He was able to make Gray who has an immunity to cold, shiver from the sheer coldness of his Magic.

- Bloodman was the whole Tartaros guild in one person. He even killed Bill.

- God Serena played with the GOI. Natsu, Erza, Gray, etc were useless against him until Gildarts appeared. Even Gildarts said he is extreme powerful and wanted always to fight him with fulpower. He also easily defeated Gajeel.

- Irene she changed the clima on mount Zonia, she created two powerful girls from two of her swords, she was one of the few ones who survived a battle against Acnologia, her MP was big enough to enchant the whole country, she enchanted 1 mio soldiers into Beserkers where even Erza and Gildarts had struggle. In her dragon form, her MP reached the space, where she enchanted a meteor. In the 100YQ thanks to her help Wendy was able to defeat enemies like Nebal and Haku.

- August he played with Jellal and his guild, he played with Gildarts, he could destroy the whole country if he wanted.

Compared to the DG who were hyped to be on the lvl of Ancologia (MP wise), the older enemies, did better things and with more consequences.

Something I miss from the dragons in the 100YQ.


Thats why I said that I hope that the GMG dragons should us show real feats without the be nerfed or without the plot on the side of team Natsu.

Merc could easily create a tsunami and destroy not only the town but the whole country with it.

Aldoron could easily use his wood roots above the whole country or maybe the whole continent (like Dog it did).

Selene destroyed planets/worlds, like you mentioned, but against Suzaku, Ignia or Viernes the spells she used could not even destroy a town tbh. At least it looked like that.

Thats my problem with the DG, they have feats and hype but in the "battles" they never showed us these feats again. While the S12 and Tartaros members at least used their powers and feats against the protagonist some of them were defeated thanks to the plot, but overall, Mashima potrayed them all better.


Maybe am a little bit to hard with the DG's but if even the servants like 9DG or S12 did much more things, then it's sad to see how the most powerful dragons can't even destroy a town or defeat the protagonists.

At least they were defeated because they were nerfed and the protagonists need even more help to defeat them, what is a good feat, but thats it.

I wish we would have seen more spells, stronger attacks, with more range.

Natsu's charged FDKM destruction fist, which wiped an entire city, did 0.0001% hp worth of damage to nerfed Aldaron.

Was that a whole city or only the area where he fought Aldoron?

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Honestly had no idea they were back lol, didn't even know a chapter came out.
I just read the chapter now after you mentioned it.

Honestly, they should blow Spriggans and even Zeref out of the park, given that Ignia respects them and have high expectations for them. It doesn't make sense for a grand plan by two Dragon Gods lasting 400 years, to result in some Zeref level scrubs (though Mashima can always make it happen lol)

Even in the original eclipse, these guys were no selling even Laxus level DS attacks like they were nothing. And now they are even buffed by Dogamag. I have some good expectations of them, even though I suspect it likely won't go anywhere considering who is the author.

Because Lucy mentioned a bad feeling that will happen my hopes are big that the GMG dragons will defeat them and maybe finaly show us what destruction power they really have. Remember how Motherglare destroyed a whole mountain with her roar. Someting I miss from the DG.

But I am also afraid, because, what Mashima did with F&F, Diabolos and the DG.

 

[Sevently]

People on Reddit hated this tierlist so it's probably the most accurate one. Only possible problems are positions like Faris, Bestia and Ignia who could end up like frauds and the top 3 from Oracion Sechs which are speculative.

Star Dress Mix Lucy is in the blanket part next to Brandish

Could u send me the link of the tierlist plz?

 

[Ratrace]

Remember that the Wizards were massively weakened by the time of the GMG. The only way for these dragons to be threatening is if their power up were somehow massively stronger than any other to the nth degree because they took damage rather easily from tired DS attacks.

GMG arc also showed how affective DS magic is against dragons because they were other mages that were just as tried and just as or more powerful than most of the DS and they did nothing to the dragons

 

[Rigel]

Remember that the Wizards were massively weakened by the time of the GMG. The only way for these dragons to be threatening is if their power up were somehow massively stronger than any other to the nth degree because they took damage rather easily from tired DS attacks.

Brandish has already admitted that her magic isn't very effective against dragons. The other Spriggans are likely in the same situation as Bandish, with only raw power remaining as a means to defeat them. With the exception of Irene and August, none of them are likely to be able to defeat a significant dragon in a one-on-one fight.

Regarding the eclipse dragons, it's mentioned that they spent 400 years being energized by the continent's magical energy. I don't expect this group of dragons to be as powerful as the Dragon Gods, but they may have evolved to the level of the Dragon Kings.

That's enough to overcome any Spriggan.

 

[Shiki_Dragneel]

Brandish has already admitted that her magic isn't very effective against dragons. The other Spriggans are likely in the same situation as Bandish, with only raw power remaining as a means to defeat them. With the exception of Irene and August, none of them are likely to be able to defeat a significant dragon in a one-on-one fight.

Regarding the eclipse dragons, it's mentioned that they spent 400 years being energized by the continent's magical energy. I don't expect this group of dragons to be as powerful as the Dragon Gods, but they may have evolved to the level of the Dragon Kings.

That's enough to overcome any Spriggan.

Whats with God Serena? As a dragonslayer and extreme powerful mage, I think he could probably defeat a dragon too.

 

[Rigel]

Whats with God Serena? As a dragonslayer and extreme powerful mage, I think he could probably defeat a dragon too.

Maybe, but I refuse to elaborate on God Serena because his power scaling is quite impaired, due to some quotes involving the Signario Sisters.