Discussion Fairy Tail Power Ranking Thread

Which side are you on?

  • Team Spriggan 12

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Wahl simply said that Laxus still operates at the top of his Guild. Not Really, kind of like with August, Jellal could take hits from a non-serious August, Erza could take hits from a non-serious Irene. Wendy did help but usually to provide defenses. Laxus did not have cancer, he was only hampered when he has the episodes per his own words. Ah, that, my error, but that panel does not prove they are in the same class, otherwise, why didn’t he say Gildarts? Of course there is no statement of physical boost as it was just magical boost which states to be flowing out of him, meaning he can’t contain it all. On the contrary, Dimaria is stated by Hiro to be stronger than he is, more than Gildarts was obviously. Natsu was not off guard at all as he was prepared to fight per his own words. Ur was considered Wizard Saint level, plus he had to fight his own teacher which he overcame with resolve, besides using a previous character who was dead a long time ago with no enhancements is unfair claim. It took time for him to do so, which would have given Invel enough time to shatter him if Gray wasn’t around, and yet Natsu could not break free from Brandish’s grasp when she took them away? And struggled against a weakened God Serene who at full power is weaker than Dimaria? That is still doesn’t put Natsu at that level on his own at least in base. Being alive doesn’t determine how strong they are in battle, it is only when it actively effects you is what matters, people can still perform normal feats like exercises even when effected by disease. If he never would have landed the hit, he wouldn’t have landed the hit when saving Kagura too, they were battle ready so he wouldn’t have been unable to get them both out of the way, it is not as though he was caught off guard or anything. Neinhart was in shock at that moment with how Erza dispelled his historias. mental state is a factor after all, Jellal would have used meteor to dodge, and it is shown he can multi-task if need be. He was unconscious well before that as it takes time to drown underwater, even when caught under an anchor chain which there was no anchor near by when they were sent under, unless the bast pushed them under an anchor that was already there which again, if Kagura could get out, then so could Jellal before drowning. And yet Jacob managed to escape shortly after he was defeated since they didn’t take him prisoner, which makes sense since Ajeel was not captured too as Zeref stated they managed to preserve their own lives, he was weakened during his fight with Mira as per her own and Hiro’s words.
He was so confident and so undamaged that decided to use assault mode. We never even saw the August vs Jellal fight. Magic tumor that should have killed Laxus according to Wall. Gildarts was already fighting August and Zeref surprise with Gray appearing instead of Laxus and Jellal narratively puts the two at the same ballpark, like when Gray mentioned that Gildarts and Laxus wouldn't suffer much from the 7 years powercreep, he didn't mentioned Makarov who was still stronger than pre-timeskip Makarov because both statements have circumstances, in the Zeref one Gildarts was fighting August and in the post timeskip one Makarov as a guild master was disregarded. But there wasn't anything stating it was a magical boost only. No, Mashima just mentioned the spriggans as he was remembering them, only August and Irene had the ''>'', and Dimaria was trashed by END who was stalemated by Gray. END don't have any ability to bypass time stop, just to kill immortals. Gildarts>=God Serena>>Alvarez Jellal and Laxus>>>Dimaria. Just look at the difference between Jellal vs God Serena and Jellal vs Neinhart, God Serena wasn't relative to Neinhart in anything, he tanked what one shotted Neinhart. What ? Jellal was caught because he was protecting Kagura, in many series it's similar or even worse than being caught off guard because it can be fatal, actually Simon died protecting Erza from an attack in Tower of Heaven so this applies to Fairy Tail too.


The moment Simon was defeated Neinhart was shitting on his pants, not just when Erza dispelled the historias and he didn't tried the shot again when Jellal was charging the GC.
So what ? Ajeel returned to lose to Elfman and Lisanna and confirm that the spriggans are weaklings. Jacob return was just to give Mira some credit. Mira was tired too, and Jacob was nerfing himself closing his eyes rather than being weakned, his physical strength should still be comparable to Mira even because beyond tired she used her human form for a good part of the offscreen fight. What really gives him the edge over Alvarez Mira is his transport hax, not his physical strength
 
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He was so confident and so undamaged that decided to use assault mode. We never even saw the August vs Jellal fight. Magic tumor that should have killed Laxus according to Wall. Gildarts was already fighting August and Zeref surprise with Gray appearing instead of Laxus and Jellal narratively puts the two at the same ballpark, like when Gray mentioned that Gildarts and Laxus wouldn't suffer much from the 7 years powercreep, he didn't mentioned Makarov who was still stronger than pre-timeskip Makarov because both statements have circumstances, in the Zeref one Gildarts was fighting August and in the post timeskip one Makarov as a guild master was disregarded. But there wasn't anything stating it was a magical boost only. No, Mashima just mentioned the spriggans as he was remembering them, only August and Irene had the ''>'', and Dimaria was trashed by END who was stalemated by Gray. END don't have any ability to bypass time stop, just to kill immortals. Gildarts>=God Serena>>Alvarez Jellal and Laxus>>>Dimaria. Just look at the difference between Jellal vs God Serena and Jellal vs Neinhart, God Serena wasn't relative to Neinhart in anything, he tanked what one shotted Neinhart. What ? Jellal was caught because he was protecting Kagura, in many series it's similar or even worse than being caught off guard because it can be fatal, actually Simon died protecting Erza from an attack in Tower of Heaven so this applies to Fairy Tail too.


The moment Simon was defeated Neinhart was shitting on his pants, not just when Erza dispelled the historias and he didn't tried the shot again when Jellal was charging the GC.
So what ? Ajeel returned to lose to Elfman and Lisanna and confirm that the spriggans are weaklings. Jacob return was just to give Mira some credit. Mira was tired too, and Jacob was nerfing himself closing his eyes rather than being weakned, his physical strength should still be comparable to Mira even because beyond tired she used her human form for a good part of the offscreen fight. What really gives him the edge over Alvarez Mira is his transport hax, not his physical strength
He was not entirely as he even stated his own weaknesses that he needs to adapt to. Considering that it is overtime and Jellal managed to not go down yet would show that they did trade blows. Magic Tumor is something that was believed to be diagnosed for Natsu, not Laxus, Magic Tumor are overheating of magics that forms the tumor inside them. Zeref would not know that, and Jellal was down by that time since he fought August too, he is not omniscient, it doesn’t. even when Laxus got stronger since 7 years time gap, he struggled against Jura, and even then when Wendy achieved DF, she managed to destroy a Face structure https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0377-014.png, something Jura and his allies could not , it shows that there are no real permanent ranking in power even then. Considering Makarov was getting older and Older he is not at his best health, it is only circumstances that gives him a fighting chance. You have yet to prove that, as the context gives that his power spills out of him and not able to be held in his magic container as he said his magic power outstripped it’s limits meaning his limits are still there, not meaning it doesn’t exist anymore. https://official.lowee.us/manga/Fairy-Tail/0500-019.png No, there is nothing mentioning he forgot or anything, just stating as they are. END who is strong enough to kill Zeref? His power Would obviously be elevated when it was activated. Gray how has powers to slay Demons which are anathema to them, like how weakened Dragon Slayers who managed to stalemate dragon form Calamities. Yes he does as the Q&A section confirms to be the power of END. if that is what you want to believe then go ahead. You mean using a weaker spell to finish off God Serena compared to Neinhart which Jellal used a stronger spell? That was Bloodlusted GC Neinhart took compared to what is just 2 more projectiles standard GC which was pealing away his body where as Nienhart was still alive. he can just dodge it if you claim that he could dodge the projectile anyway even with Kagura. Simon was weaker than Jellal though, He couldn’t just grab them and run if he was weaker. Nienhart was unnerved before that too, he was just overconfident thinking Simon would stop Jellal. Because Jellal can just use meteor and still cast GC at the same time. Elfman who was using anti-sand magic to best him and Lisanna who was providing backup, and yes Elfman can send Natsu flying before the war started too so he would Close to scale, she had plenty of time to recover her magic and she handicaps herself anyway from using full power when people are near by to watch. Yes and that too is weakening as that hampers concentration as magic is physical and mental too, she is strong even as a human who even shook Azuma who she confirmed herself to be tired. Taurus form Lucy says otherwise.
 
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Forever a August victim
 

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Weakling version of God Serena? Sure why not.
 

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Fairy Tail Tier List [Original Series + 100YQ Ignia Arc (Pre-Calamity Bloods)]


The list respects the passage of time and the characters’ progression. It is also ordered from the strongest to the weakest within each tier.


GOD TIER +++
- Acnologia [Prime], Ignia [Prime]

GOD TIER++

- Acnologia [Base], Ignia [Base Dragon Form], Selene [Dragon Form], Natsu [Prime], Aldoron, Viernes [Dragon Form], Mercphobia [Dragon Form], Faris, Zeref [Fairy Heart]

ELITE Spriggan:

Dogramag [Dragon Form], Zeref [Base], August, Irene [Base+Dragon Form] Bestia, Natsu [Dual Element], Laxus [Ignia Arc], Athena, Elefseria, Larcade

HIGH Spriggan:

Gray [Black Ice], Georg, Kirin, Suzaku, Erza [Enchanted], Wed [Dragonized], Selene [Human Form], Viernes [Human Form], Gildarts [Alvarez Arc], Jellal, Dimaria, Duke Barbaroa, Misaki, Haku

MID Spriggan:

Natsu [Base Emotional Boost], Erza [Base], God Serena, Brandish, Lucy [Key of Mercphobia], Ennie [Dragonized], Gajeel [Dual Element], Sting [Dual Element], Sherria [Prime], Luso [Dragonized], Zero [+Brain], Mirajane [Alegria], Bloodman, Wendy [Dragon Force]

MID-LOW Spriggan:

Natsu [Regular Base], Gray [Base], Lecka [Dragonized], Daemon, Brian [Dragonized], Skullion, Kiria, Ajeel, Mirajane [Base Satan Soul], Invel, Youko [Earthland], Jacob, Gears, Elfman [Aldoron Arm]

LOW Spriggan:

- Neinhart, Metro, Lucy [SD Base+Spirits], Wall, Wraith, Makarov, Macbeth [Midnight], Future Rogue, Minerva, Mard Gear, Arlock

HIGH SUB SPRIGGAN:

Nebaru [Dragon Force], Hakune [Earthland], Draco Hyberion, Wolfhein, Jura [Alvarez Arc], Gaia, Bluenote, Erik [Cobra], Warrod, Juliet+Heine, Juvia, Madmole, Kagura [Alvarez Arc], Mimi [Earthland], Sting [Base DF], Rogue [Base DF], Blade, Hades, Gennai, Kotetsu, Wendy [Base], Jiemma

MID SUB SPRIGGAN:

- Kyouka, Sawyer [Racer], Silver, Tempester, Franmalth, Seilah, Raaj, Gate, Bird, Lyon, Ultear, Jose

S CLASS MAGE

- Cana [Fairy Glitter], Sorano [Angel], Freed, Ichiya, Ur [Alive], Jackal, Torafuzar, Mystogan, Lisanna, Azuma, Jerome, Yukino [Star Dress]

A CLASS MAGE

- Ezel, Richard [Hoteye], Bakael, Bacchus, Rufus, Briar, Orga, Natsu [Gjm Arc], Keyes, Ikaruga, Meredy, Zancrow, Kain, Yukino [Base], Mary, Erigor

B CLASS MAGE

- Nebaru [Base], Sherria [Alvarez Base], Max, Kamika, Bickslow, Doom, Cosmos, Kama, Evergreen, PhanterLily [Human Form], Carla [Human Form], Lucy [Gjm Arc], Rutyrose, Ousuke, Macao

C CLASS MAGE

- Aria, Neppa, Yuka, Yomasu, Kawasu , Byro,Vidalus, Levy, Sai, Sherry, Fukuro

BOTTOM TIER

- Toby, Sol, Totomasu, Volcan, Bora
 

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I agree with the list overall, but I feel that Irene and August will drop a few positions after the Calamity Bloods fight develops, but I don't disagree with the overall picture.

Oh, I hadn't paid attention to Reddit, but I believe Laxus is superior to Irene and August.

Natsu Dragon Force also surpasses them both.
 

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That depends on how they fight, if Lucy beats one of them with her Merc key, Calamitys will likely not scale anywhere above or at DG level.
 

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That depends on how they fight, if Lucy beats one of them with her Merc key, Calamitys will likely not scale anywhere above or at DG level.
But Calamity Bloods don't need to be on the level of Dragon Gods.

They just need to surpass Spriggans and BDSK, which isn't difficult at all.
 

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But Calamity Bloods don't need to be on the level of Dragon Gods.

They just need to surpass Spriggans and BDSK, which isn't difficult at all.
That is hard though considering the bar set with what Brandish’s power did against Mercphobia. The CB would have to be at that level at least.
 

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That is hard though considering the bar set with what Brandish’s power did against Mercphobia. The CB would have to be at that level at least.
I think you're the only one who thinks that way.

And for some reason, you love to exclude Lucy's participation to exalt Brandish, when it was a combined effort by the two of them to destroy the lacrima.
 

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Spriggan 12 wank in 2026 is pathetic. I’m sure the day we’ll have enemies who can destroy planets like DBZ, you will say Spriggan 12 are better. Spring is coming back, so instead of yapping for these trash characters y’all should go outside and get some fresh air for your brains.
 

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^ Zeref with FH can destroy the universe and Natsu with Savage flames beat him at the cost of his heat resistance. Ignia isn’t even at that level (yet) as he is using an base level Acno power from just an arm. Atlas Face was going to destroy an entire planet too and powered up FT defeated it in one go. We already had planet level characters.
I think you're the only one who thinks that way.

And for some reason, you love to exclude Lucy's participation to exalt Brandish, when it was a combined effort by the two of them to destroy the lacrima.
I don’t intentionally exclude her, just that her Taurus form is hardly her strongest form in that effort for obvious reason, which Brandish’ power is superior to hers as it was used again other giant dragons before too without the need of super strength.
 
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^ Zeref with FH can destroy the universe and Natsu with Savage flames beat him at the cost of his heat resistance. Ignia isn’t even at that level (yet) as he is using an base level Acno power from just an arm.


I don’t intentionally exclude her, just that her Taurus form is hardly her strongest form in that effort for obvious reason, which Brandish’ power is superior to hers as it was used again other giant dragons before too without the need of super strength.
You delete it, you do it constantly.

Lucy is already naturally strong, and the Taurus form increases her physical strength. Brandish herself was thrilled, happy that Lucy was using that form to surpass Merc in physical capabilities.

You need to stop turning a collective feat into something unique to Brandish.

Brandish's power has always been used in conjunction with that of another person (Gajeel).

She alone is not capable of replicating the same feats.
 

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You delete it, you do it constantly.

Lucy is already naturally strong, and the Taurus form increases her physical strength. Brandish herself was thrilled, happy that Lucy was using that form to surpass Merc in physical capabilities.

You need to stop turning a collective feat into something unique to Brandish.

Brandish's power has always been used in conjunction with that of another person (Gajeel).

She alone is not capable of replicating the same feats.
I didn’t delete anything, what are you talking About? i merely added text above. not saying that she isn’t strong but even with Taurus form, her greater strength was her Aquarius power as their stats in the early manga states. That really isn’t surpassing more as using a method that can harm dragons naturally As they are known to be weak to physical attacks. Again, not out of intentional but in context of the story, Lucy has used a power that is weaker than her Aquarius power, which would have at least worked in the sense of pushing him the same way however it is water and that doesn’t work on Merc. again, it is Brandish’ power that did most of the work, Natsu could only manage one point of damage in normal size, with Gajeel after becoming giant he could do more damage. If I had to say, Brandish could as she is stronger than Lucy’s Taurus form at base level, considering the circumstances of Lucy being eaten and her being lazy makes sense.
 

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I didn’t delete anything, what are you talking About? i merely added text above. not saying that she isn’t strong but even with Taurus form, her greater strength was her Aquarius power as their stats in the early manga states. That really isn’t surpassing more as using a method that can harm dragons naturally As they are known to be weak to physical attacks. Again, not out of intentional but in context of the story, Lucy has used a power that is weaker than her Aquarius power, which would have at least worked in the sense of pushing him the same way however it is water and that doesn’t work on Merc. again, it is Brandish’ power that did most of the work, Natsu could only manage one point of damage in normal size, with Gajeel after becoming giant he could do more damage. If I had to say, Brandish could as she is stronger than Lucy’s Taurus form at base level, considering the circumstances of Lucy being eaten and her being lazy makes sense.
Why are you using scenes from the Alvarez arc to illustrate your argument? Lucy became much more powerful after 1 year and throughout the 100-year quest arcs. In the past, Lucy was barely able to face Brandish; currently, the narrative places Lucy on the same level as Brandish.

And the Taurus form is stronger than the Aquarius form in terms of physical attributes, since that was the reason Lucy changed forms. The power of Taurus is to increase physical strength.
 
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