Theory Final Tournament Line-up Discussion/Predictions

[Adamska]

Do u guys think they will come up with Sieg/Frank ? But right now Frank has been sideline and nothing are proving that he got power up.. So we will get repeated Sieg/Bismark again.. Of couse they will loss..

Volk plays S1 is sure.. But if Volk/Bis happens, it will be troublesome.. maybe Byo/Tane/Toku will step in and form pair between them.. Of couse they will achieve victory.. Im sure the players that are capable of defeating Volk is Byo/Tane/Toku only for Japan Team..

Toku is the most relevant character to beat Volk because he has unlocked new divine path of asura which is i think will be a huge power up and he can return Volk's special shot.. Since he only 2nd Hser, he still get 1 year left to play(maybe he become pro after beats Volk), who knows ?haha.. Byo needs to carry more burden on his shoulder, he need to play against Medanore and bring victory to Japan in U-17 World Cup...

Please don't judge so carelessly.
As we witness Msers' evoulution, Hser are not just sitting around and seeing them bocome better and better! and if so I must say, Konomi-San, I am disapointed.
you must pay attention to the fact that NPOT is more focus Mser's and a few Hser and that doesn't mean that nothing happens to Hser!
Whether it's D or S, I think Atobe and Siegfried would play against each other. My guess for who would play:

Tokugawa, Atobe and Akaya would play against Bismarck, Siegfreid and Frankensteiner. Devil Akaya vs Frankenstein's Monster, Bismarck vs Tokugawa, Atobe( Tannhäuser) vs Siegfried based on tales. These are the matchups, in my opinion. I'd like Bismarck vs Tokugawa in S1, if not, Atobe vs Siegfried. Based on Tokugawa's journey and development, it's better for him to play S1, and of course, for Bismarck as vice-captain and becoming a pro.

 

[TFJ]

Do u guys think they will come up with Sieg/Frank ? But right now Frank has been sideline and nothing are proving that he got power up.. So we will get repeated Sieg/Bismark again.. Of couse they will loss..

Volk plays S1 is sure.. But if Volk/Bis happens, it will be troublesome.. maybe Byo/Tane/Toku will step in and form pair between them.. Of couse they will achieve victory.. Im sure the players that are capable of defeating Volk is Byo/Tane/Toku only for Japan Team..

Toku is the most relevant character to beat Volk because he has unlocked new divine path of asura which is i think will be a huge power up and he can return Volk's special shot.. Since he only 2nd Hser, he still get 1 year left to play(maybe he become pro after beats Volk), who knows ?haha.. Byo needs to carry more burden on his shoulder, he need to play against Medanore and bring victory to Japan in U-17 World Cup...

Volk+anyone

Vs

Tokugawa+Tanegashima

Literal 2v1 to take down volk, while the MSer just watches most of the match. Kind of a play on Chitose vs Tezuka only requiring 2v1.

 

[Echizen]

Volk+anyone

Vs

Tokugawa+Tanegashima

Literal 2v1 to take down volk, while the MSer just watches most of the match. Kind of a play on Chitose vs Tezuka only requiring 2v1.

Volk+Bis ?.. Wow, this gonna be awesome match.. Toku+Tane can return Volk's shot.. but this will be unlikely to happen.. So Sieg plays s1 against Akaya ? finally Akaya able to surpass PoP user without using PoP.. Yukimura match has an impact on him

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Team Japan (who played in Pre WC)

Fuji
Duke. (Won both in Pre WC and Semis)
Atobe
Irie
Yukimura (Lose Both in Pre WC and Semis)
Tokugawa

Team Germany (who played in Pre WC)

Bismarck
Siegfried
Qp. (Won both in Pre WC and Semis)
Tezuka (Won both in Pre WC and Semis)
Volk
Frankensteiner

So my prediction is:

D1: Irie/Atobe Vs Bismarck/Siegfried OR

D1: Irie/Fuji Vs Bismarck/Siegfried

S1: Tokugawa Vs Volk

 

[TFJ]

Finals: Spain vs Japan
Come on, its a manga. Ryoma has always won every match, it makes sense that Japan is in the finals.

Also, news alert, Nanjiroh is going to Australia to train Ryoma. There is literally no reason for Nanjiroh to be brought over if Japan is just losing here.

D2 - Spain W. I hope 6-0, 6-0 to show how strong but I doubt it.
D1 - Spain W. I hope Kintaro-X pair. Beating Kintaro would be huge to show how strong Spain is.

S3 - Japan
Byoudin vs Medandore
Coaches expected Medandore to play S3 because Spain always goes 3-0, but surely Medandore wanted to show his fans he is back.
Byoudin has a tough game, but starts to play with no honor targeting Medandores healed injury. It goes with his character of no honor playing and then he can redeem himself or not. Either way Japan has to win.

S2 - Japan
Irie vs S2
The Spain single 2 guy acts surprised saying he actually gets to play a game. Normally Ryoga finishes things off in S3, but Medandore wanted to show off and they didn't think to move him to S2.

Irie finally gets a game. Blah blah blah. Acting like he loses, whatever. Irie is a boring character but if he was added just to be a joke, then he is even worse than he already is. Give Irie fans a hype game to watch.

S1 Japan
Ryoma vs Ryoga
Seems like the best way to setup a S1 Ryoma match. Everyone is interested in Ryoma. Coach sees after his training with Nanjiroh and he has the greatest knowledge of Ryoga is the best chance.
Ryoga withdraws during a close set.

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This also, imo, means Tokugawa can play vs Germany and help beat Volk i guess. He got gimped in the exhibition because he had to protect Yukimura.

Tanegashima could be vs Spain or Germany with this setup, really if they just want him to win or lose. He is kind of hyped though, so yea him losing hypes Spain but him beating Germany is of course fine.

If Irie Atobe play vs Germany, then Tanegashima beats Spain 2.

 

[Adamska]

I have another Idea:
As we know Japan uses 2 and Germany 1 Mser. Now D1: using one of each H/Mser= they must lose cuz of rules. Ok then S1: still need one Mser, so NO!
Best idea using 2 Mser and if they lose then settle S1 with Hser. So forget about idea of Monster Volk playing D1.
For japan is more favorable cuz they allow using Hser along 1 Mser. (Kinda opposite D2 for germany) another pattern!
So Japan will win D1 and now we go to S1. as I said before Bismarck is the one unless, Japan's rep would be Byo, then they change it to Volk (like Tane).
But that's not going to happend because if Byo wins against Volk (which cost him everything) then, how he can even play against Meda? and not to mention that game would be so boring cuz we already saw Byo. OK.
Right now I am more interested in D1:
Frank and Sieg.
Japan: Atobe: we are all know why. with a Hser: Ochi (Hyotie's pair) or with: Ohmagari (Endurance pair)
Anyway what are you guys think?

 

[Hardy]

I have another Idea:
As we know Japan uses 2 and Germany 1 Mser. Now D1: using one of each H/Mser= they must lose cuz of rules. Ok then S1: still need one Mser, so NO!
Best idea using 2 Mser and if they lose then settle S1 with Hser. So forget about idea of Monster Volk playing D1.
For japan is more favorable cuz they allow using Hser along 1 Mser. (Kinda opposite D2 for germany) another pattern!
So Japan will win D1 and now we go to S1. as I said before Bismarck is the one unless, Japan's rep would be Byo, then they change it to Volk (like Tane).
But that's not going to happend because if Byo wins against Volk (which cost him everything) then, how he can even play against Meda? and not to mention that game would be so boring cuz we already saw Byo. OK.
Right now I am more interested in D1:
Frank and Sieg.
Japan: Atobe: we are all know why. with a Hser: Ochi (Hyotie's pair) or with: Ohmagari (Endurance pair)
Anyway what are you guys think?

Not to ruin everything you just wrote but both teams have used 2 Msers. Niou / Yukimura and Bertie / Tezuka. Franken will most likely sit out.

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I'm inclined to believe Marui plays next (he has to play SOMEWHERE) or Fuji.

 

[Adamska]

Not to ruin everything you just wrote but both teams have used 2 Msers. Niou / Yukimura and Bertie / Tezuka. Franken will most likely sit out.

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I'm inclined to believe Marui plays next (he has to play SOMEWHERE) or Fuji.

Can you show me some link or evidence about Bertie being a Mser cuz I couldn't find any. neither in manga nor wiki!

 

[André Vinícius]

Final: Japan x Spain

S3: Kintaro x XXXX (Spain win)

D2: Kite and Atobe x XXXX (Japan win)

S2: Ryoma x Ryoga (Japan win) (can swap with S1)

D1: Fuji and Irie/Ochi x XXXX (Spain win)

S1: Byodoin/Tokugawa x Medanore (Japan win) (can swap with S2)

 

[Adamska]

Final: Japan x Spain

S3: Kintaro x XXXX (Spain win)

D2: Kite and Atobe x XXXX (Japan win)

S2: Ryoma x Ryoga (Japan win) (can swap with S1)

D1: Fuji and Irie/Ochi x XXXX (Spain win)

S1: Byodoin/Tokugawa x Medanore (Japan win) (can swap with S2)

who do you think will play against Volk? if Japan wins D1

 

[André Vinícius]

who do you think will play against Volk? if Japan wins D1

Byodoin or Tokugawa (more inclined to Tokugawa) one of them will play Volk and the other one Medanore and I believe since Byo was the cause of Japan defeat 2 years ago he will go and win his match in the final match of the tournament (I'm inclined to think it will be S1 so he can win in a 2-2 situation but Ryoma is the protagonist so who knows)

 

[Hardy]

Irie vs Volk

S3: Kintarou L
D2: Atobe-Marui L
S2: Akutsu W
D1: Fuji-Kite W
S1: Tokugawa vs Medanore TIE
Reserve: Ryoma vs Ryoga

 

[Adamska]

Byodoin or Tokugawa (more inclined to Tokugawa) one of them will play Volk and the other one Medanore and I believe since Byo was the cause of Japan defeat 2 years ago he will go and win his match in the final match of the tournament (I'm inclined to think it will be S1 so he can win in a 2-2 situation but Ryoma is the protagonist so who knows)

I think that as well. However, if I'm not mistaken, Coach Mifune yells at other coaches and says who would play aginst Volk then after they suggest Byo plays in D or something like that.

Irie vs Volk

S3: Kintarou L
D2: Atobe-Marui L
S2: Akutsu W
D1: Fuji-Kite W
S1: Tokugawa vs Medanore TIE
Reserve: Ryoma vs Ryoga

No Byo? I think only Byo and probably Tokugawa have the strength to challenge Volk among remaining Japanese reps. Kintarou, Ultimate Weapon, will play in Finals. So, I think two Mser will play Singles in Final if Japan wins. Byo and Tokugawa, one of them would play against Volk, the other against Medanore, presumably.

 

[TFJ]

Final: Japan x Spain

S3: Kintaro x XXXX (Spain win)

D2: Kite and Atobe x XXXX (Japan win)

S2: Ryoma x Ryoga (Japan win) (can swap with S1)

D1: Fuji and Irie/Ochi x XXXX (Spain win)

S1: Byodoin/Tokugawa x Medanore (Japan win) (can swap with S2)

So Kintaro loses yet another match. The dude can't catch a break beating only Dorgias right?

 

[erosares286]

Irie vs Volk

S3: Kintarou L
D2: Atobe-Marui L
S2: Akutsu W
D1: Fuji-Kite W
S1: Tokugawa vs Medanore TIE
Reserve: Ryoma vs Ryoga

Akutsu already replaced by Sengoku
Tokugawa or Byou will play Volk,W

 

[mathematicianrcg]

Kintaro

Atobe

Fuji

Marui

They are the 4 MS That should play next round. (either in Finals or battle for 3rd)

 

[Hardy]

Akutsu already replaced by Sengoku
Tokugawa or Byou will play Volk,W

Konomi said that if Akutsu wants it's just hoping on a plane and that's it.

We kinda write rules as we go so that's hardly an issue.

You can just remove him and move Tokugawa to S2 anyway.

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No Byo? I think only Byo and probably Tokugawa have the strength to challenge Volk among remaining Japanese reps. Kintarou, Ultimate Weapon, will play in Finals. So, I think two Mser will play Singles in Final if Japan wins. Byo and Tokugawa, one of them would play against Volk, the other against Medanore, presumably.

Byo played in D2

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So Kintaro loses yet another match. The dude can't catch a break beating only Dorgias right?

I think he does deserve a good W but so do many other characters. Beating Hakamada and then Dorgias (plus beating Yukimura in a flashback) ain't so bad, in NPoT he only lost to Oni who got TnK in the same match.

 

[Kaoz]

In my eyes, a finals line-up composed of Ryoma, Kintarou, Atobe, Fuji, Kite, Irie and Tokugawa in some order has become significantly more likely with the newest chapters. While one of them could technically face Volk to free up a spot, I feel more confident about Byoudouin playing that match than before.

Looking back at the preparation chapters, we had the following hints:

• Saitou suggesting Byoudouin/Duke vs the pro doubles -> check
• Mifune saying none of the middle schoolers can defeat Tezuka -> arguably check since the spirit of the match was all of them cooperating
• Tanegashima was highlighted -> check
• Kirihara vs Bismarck -> check
• Duke was highlighted -> check
• Yukimura's singles training -> check

Granted, the Tezuka bit is not super indicative since you could've said it checks out even if Atobe or Fuji had been his opponent. But, the point is that we've established a pretty good track record. The last big point missing is Mifune saying that only Byoudouin can beat Volk, and this time nobody appealed to him to change the line-up.

Byo played in D2

Also, I feel this is unpersuasive because the D2 match did absolutely nothing for Byoudouin as a character.

 

[Hardy]

Also, I feel this is unpersuasive because the D2 match did absolutely nothing for Byoudouin as a character.

Does he need a match for his character? Every time he opens his mouth he gets softer, he started as a pos and is now a very supportive leader. So far he has baited us against Volk, Amadeus and Ryoma, maybe that is the whole point of having him around.

 

[mathematicianrcg]

In the past predictions. Most of us have
Qp and Tezuka wining. And it happened.

Siegfried/Bismarck is the weakest link in Germany. (And I was proven right this chapter). So they will easily lose this.

Doubles Pro and Volk are the worries in the past. But Doubles pro is defeated.

So, that leaves Volk.

If it is true that only Byodoin can beat Volk(and assumingly beat him). Byodoin will play against Medanore in Finals too.

Byodoin doesn't play a single game yet in the tournament.

Tokugawa vs Volk is another option.

If it boils down to S1

For me the chance of this players to play against Volk is

Byodoin- 90% chance
Tokugawa-9% Chance
Irie - 1% chance