First Round 26. (Blackbeard vs Aokiji)

[Jorge D. Dragon]

We should also take in consideration that no matter that BB has two DFs he still isn't as good with WB's DF as WB was. BB only has this DF for 2 years (and we assume him as he last fought with it as we didn't see him after timeskip), so I doubt he is as versatile with it as WB was. I believe the only thing he can do is make a big earthquake, but it was even proven by the Admirals during the War that such and earthquake can be blocked with Armament's Haki, so Ao Kiji really has a chance here and I would really give victory to him in this fight, especially if he manages to make a good start and speedblitz Teach and punish him with Ice Age.

 

[Giammaio]

you guys are mad.

Aokiji and Ace, are like a horse and a bug.

BB would NEVER WIN against Aokiji.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Well, BB is actually quite strong. He has two of the strongest DFs in One Piece and no matter how weak he is himself he is still a very strong opponent to anyone due to this fact. It's not because BB is weak, but because Ao Kiji is damn strong he can win the fight. Also it's quite a conditional. If Ao Kiji doesn't manage to outspeed Teach and use Ice Age on him and then finish him off with several strong piercing attacks, then the fight will be prolonged and then Kuzan might actually loose as having such strong DFs is quite a fit.

 

[0Xellos]

BB's greatest drawback is his carelessness. When Magellan used his Hydra, he would've been dead if not for the plot Shiliew. If Aokiji goes for quick, certain kill, it's almost certain to be his victory.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Yes, precisely! BB is a slow starter. And that's his biggest weakness. Especially against the guys of Ao Kiji's caliber. If not for a plot he would have died either against Magellan or against Whitebeard, so in such a fight most of it depends on how Ao Kiji will start the fight. If he goes straight for the kill, then he wins, if not, then it might turn either way if the fight will be prolonged.

 

[Mr. Arashi]

I know Ace can use haki, however he didn't use it in his fight against BB.

Yep, but he doesn't know how to used it.

Teach, stop Robin's feeling of being stalked, she doesn't endure anymore.

 

[Giammaio]

you all pissing me off, BB isn't super fast, Magellan soloed his crew.

He's too confident, and he can't use both DF at the same time, even luffy got him.

BB loses to aokiji.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Well, reread the end of Marineford Arc. It is obviously shown that Teach can use two of his DFs at the same time. And that makes a real differense in a fight with any opponent.
Also noone actually argues that Teach has any fighting fits besides of having to DFs, so of course he got some punches from Luffy, but everyone knows that Teach is a slow starter. The same way he started the fight against Ace and he still one it.

P.S. The thing is that I actually believe Ao Kiji can win this fight and I stated it in my posts in this thread. The only thing I'm argueing with you is because I can't see how Teach can loose easily and badly to Ao Kiji. No matter how we look at BB, he is still damn strong.

 

[Giammaio]

Blackbeard overstimates his ability, way too much.

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

What ability in particular? He only overstimated his ability twice:
1. Against Magellan, but well Magellan is somewhere around Admirals, but without Logia. He is the synonim of Impel Down.
2. When he fought Whitebeard. He though he would defeat WB just by negating his DF, but he wasn't the strongest man in the World for nothing, thus he showed his insane physical power + Haki + his weapon mastery and thus showed BB to be useless against him.

In all other situations BB actually managed to be on top. The thing is that not only we talking about BB with Yami Yami no mi, but also about the one who also has Whitebeard's DF.

Still, I do believe Ao Kiji can win this fight if he manages to speedblitz Teach as he is a slow starter.

 

[Giammaio]

ok even if BB goes all out, If aokiji keeps his distance, he wins...

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

Well, actually the distanse is a problem for Ao Kiji, since it's better to BB to fight like that since he has Quake Quake Fruit to make damn strong earthquakes.
The only option for Ao Kiji is to speedblitz Teach in the begining of the fight and perform Ice Age on him and then pierce him with his ice spear enough times for BB to die.

 

[Giammaio]

Well, actually the distanse is a problem for Ao Kiji, since it's better to BB to fight like that since he has Quake Quake Fruit to make damn strong earthquakes.
The only option for Ao Kiji is to speedblitz Teach in the begining of the fight and perform Ice Age on him and then pierce him with his ice spear enough times for BB to die.

once again, your overstimating his ability, BlackBeard cannot be as strong with the quake quake fruit like Whitebeard...why? simple, experience.
Basically, Some people, whom train incessantely, still do not achieve full potential of their devil fruits, BlackBeard, has 2 to deal with, so neither will come to their full potential, on top of that, blackbeard clearly puts the yami yami no mi, above, so he would rather use that, and will train more with that then the quake quake fruit.

Furthermore, If you check during the manga, no ability, is constant, that means, that before he can re-use the quake quake fruit he would have to wait, about 10 seconds if not more. For a logia, it's not so, they can keep releasing constantly their devil fruit, the fact that Aokiji is a marine admiral, and has only 1 devil fruit, should put him above both devil fruits, singularly. With some strategy, aokiji, stomps, just check Punk Hazard, just check the range, of their power, Aokiji, can ice age, the whole surface, making unfavourable for Blackbeard, and favourable for himself. Aokiji was also a marine admiral, his battle ability, is miles above that of blackbeard, he will not just rush into battle, he will take his distance analize, and take down his opponent. if he just makes a sword, that is enough, and we haven't even considered haki, Aokiji can just charge, and punch blackbeard with an armament haki punch.


There is no scenario, where blackbeard wins.

 

[Mr. Arashi]

Come on, if Hancock wins over Urouge, you can't be so tard about to let win Aokiji.

Aokiji make distance, Kurohige use Kurouzu, Aokiji throws Partisan spears in mid-air, he's wounded but instead of dying (Ace's were where his heart is) creates Blackhole to the ground, Aokiji lose his powers, Teach punch the air three times, Kuzan is defeated.

Or to be more hardcore, he's absorb by BlackHole and in that dimension is where quake attacks are launched.

He's definitely stronger, and we are here to choose the strongest.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Did i just read, that having one devilfruit makes one stronger then having two of them? D:

 

[Razh]

Blackbeard needs to touch a person in order to negate devil fruits. Even if Aokiji steps on the black hole, he has enough time to launch an attack. Like WB did when BB tried to absorb him.

And while BB has 2 fruits, none of them gives him any kind of intagibility. In fact one of them makes him feel more pain than normal. Someone who can freeze a tsunami in few seconds from a distance has an obvious advantage here. The tricks that worked on Ace, who came to battle with BB unprepared, without knowing about BB's abilities, aren't guaranteed to work on someone who knows what BB can do with his powers.

If you're thinking about this realistically, there's no way BB could win, based on the information we've seen so far.

 

[Josef]

Well, what about the two years that have passed? Becoming a yonko is such a short time means he does have a pretty good handle of both of his fruits by now. During the war the admirals were afraid of Shanks, so we can assume any yonko will send shivers down their spine.

We do not know how long it took for everyone to become a yonko, but certainly two years or less is quite a feat. We have not seen what BB can do after these two years, but the information on what he managed to become is enough to give him a clear chance in a fight against an admiral.

 

[Mr. Arashi]

If you're thinking about this realistically, there's no way BB could win, based on the information we've seen so far.

Realistic? Let me ask you and all of thinks Aokiji wins, how will defeat Teach? Drain off all his blood by wounds? Freezed and cut in parts?

You're underestimating Teach so much, He's a D., despite Newgate not acknowledge him as one, he certainly it is, so has this willpower to never cease to achive his dreams; in this case, defeat Aokiji, that also i have demonstrated how he can defeat him, and two forms to do it.

He can absorb him in the blackhole, demolish his iceness by quakes, touching him and defeating him roughly. Also, no one has stated that he's a Logia, he can absorb things like fire and ice (obviously) but also wounds, because when Ace fires his spers, this wounds in the next pages are no where to be found. Indeed the pain stays because is interior like when was affected by Magellan's poison, but the wounds are exterior so can be take up.

The main feats indicates that Teach is above Aokiji, i repeat myself, how can Aokiji win over Teach? I don't understand.

 

[Razh]

I repeat, based on what we've seen, Aokiji has advantage. What we've seen. I don't care what happened during 2 years. For all we knew, Aokiji could have been training all the time since he lost to Akainu so he can beat him in a rematch. It's all fanfiction. We've seen Aokiji fight with WB and he was doing pretty well. We saw WB beat the shit out of Akainu. Guess what, Akainu survived and kept pwning pirates trying to save Luffy. We know that Aokiji, fought 10 days against Akainu who has devil fruit which has advantage over Aokiji's. And we saw WB beat BB as if he were a child, Now think about all that a little and tell me who's the weakest link there.

 

[leshrak]

I believe BB can breabk any ice Aokiji uses against him. It was stated that gura gura no mi is the strongest paramecia fruit, said to have the power to destroy the wole world! What can ice do against something like that??? And if this is not enough, he also has a fruit that create f*king black holes! I don't like BB but there's no way Aokiji can beat him. 2 broken fruits + best endurance seem so far + haki (even if he's not so proficiet with it as Aokiji) wins this fight.