Predictions Future Wano's Fight Matchups

[King Moe]

This thread is made to decide on how Luffy and the others get by in this arc and the allies they will obviously make to take down both Kaido and Big Mom (When she and her crew arrives) and to predict on what will be the future encounters fights and final match up in the arc as a whole. We can share and discuss on what our thoughts are and why we feel main cast and their allies will face these guys and for what reason why they will do that in your mind. Please be respectful to each other and discuss things along with not getting sidetracked in talking something else completely different in the topic please. We can agree to disagree on things, but let's not let get out of hand.

Now from my personal opinion, judging from the overall arc and taking regard on threats and such, I feel things will go into match-ups like these for the characters around.

One on One (Majority Part) Matchups

1. Luffy vs Headliner or Calamity, and then Kaido.

2. Zoro vs Semi-Commander, Headliner, or Japanese Feudal Military Hierarchy Rank Characters, Calamity, and Shogun.

3. Sanji vs Semi-Commander, Headliner, or Japanese Feudal Military Hierarchy Rank Characters, Sweet Commander or King or Queen (Calamity) or probably face both in the arc, (Not same time, but just one at a time), and/or probably Admiral Kizaru.

4. Jimbei vs Semi-Commander or Headliner) and maybe Sweet Commander.

5. Law vs Semi-Comamader, Headliner, Japanese Feudal Military Hierarchy Rank Characters,and Calamity

6. Kidd vs Calamity

7. Hawkins vs Headliner or Semi-Commander

8. Apoo vs Headliner or Semi-Commander

9. Drake X vs Headliner or Semi-Commander

10. Killer vs Headliner or Japanese Feudal Military Hierarchy Rank Characters

11. Gecko Moria vs Headliner and Calamity (Before being defeated perhaps)

12. Nami vs Semi-Commander or Headliner

13. Usopp vs Semi-Commander or Headliner or "Calamity or Kaido" (All Hail GOD USOPP! *Joke* XD)

14. Chopper vs Headliner or Semi-Commander

15. Robin vs Semi-Commander or Headliner

16. Franky vs Semi-Commander or Headliner

17. Brook vs Semi-Commander or Headliner

18. Smoker vs Semi-Commander or Headliner or Both (Same or one at a time) and Calamity

19. Tashigi vs Semi-Commander or Headliner

Team Up Scenarios

1. Luffy, Law, and Kidd vs Kaido and Big Mom (Mostly prefer just Kaido)

2. Sanji and Zoro vs Calamity and Calamity, Calamity and Shogun, or Calamity and Sweet Commander

3. Strawhat Grand Fleet and Alliance Crew members vs Kaido's and Big Mom's groups.


This is all the allies I think will be on side with Luffy and the others in facing Kaido since he is going to make "Greatest War that the world has ever seen" and plus adding Big Mom in this add more to potential fights as she and her crew didn't go fully out in their arc since it wasn't meant to be dominated unlike this arc here.

This is what I think, thus subjective and if you like to point out something on me, I don't mind talking it with you all, but be respectful about it instead of being mad upset of what I choose to go with and match-ups. I will be also making changes and editing as I read through the arc more, so none of these maybe set in stone as it's more predictions and setup than actual going to happen. Let's all tell our thoughts on things and see what we predict that can possible happen in the arc .

 

[kcd]

I come in peace, lol.

Zoro would definitely face one of the disasters.
Catviper and dogstorm would definitely take on Jack, to avenge the minks tribe.

That leaves only one disaster left. I see sanji taking on the last disaster if the raid suit gives him an incredible increase in strength to the one he's displayed so far, but if not, I see Law (assisted by one or two strawhats) taking on the last disaster instead.

Kidd, Hawkins e.t.c. all have beef with Kaido personally, so they'll leave the side attraction and go for main dish (which is Kaido), so they'll probably gang up with luffy against Kaido.
For now, I would say this is the most obvious matchups we might have.

What I haven't still pictured is where bigmom fits in all this. Will she fight Kaido first? ...because if she does, that will show us (the audience) what a fight between two yonkos would look like, but If that doesn't happen, then we may never know (since the manga is already 80% done).

I guess if bigmom will show up with her major crew, then I don't think anyone (besides luffy, law, Zoro or Jimbe) can handle someone like cracker, let alone Katakuri or maybe smoothie.

There are enough forces (on luffy's side) to deal with fodders, it's the strong ones that are the issues.

I guess if bigmom's strongest crew mates comes along, then there has to be some form of counter force (third party) to stop her, and that is where Kizaru and the Marines comes in.

While luffy deals with Kaido, the marines holds off bigmom... And while luffy would be tired/sleepy after the battle, the marine forces will be tired as well (fighting bigmom), so there would be no body to arrest luffy's crew or allies after the war (like it was in dressrosa).

Basically, ones the calamities and Kaido are kept busy, the other matchups can go any way.

Though I mostly agree with your matchups that involves headliners (and lower-powerhouses)

 

[Sachsenhesse]

One Piece was the last arcs mainly about Luffy, so i dont really expect an epic zorofight currently. All goes to Luffy. Maybe some teamfights but thats it.

 

[kkck]

Zoro absolutely needs to defeat a calamity. Luffy defeated cracked and katakuri the previous arc, zoro would look pathetic if he can't at least match a calamity. Of course, zoro does not need to defeat a bunch of calamities. Sanji needs to defeat someone like oven or equivalent....

 

[keeper1h]

My guess is that since BM is very mature, she'll leave all the defeated commanders at home to "protect and rebuild", only letting Smoothie and sone uber powerful fodders on her ship.

Nami will defeat Smoothie.

 

[King Moe]

Zoro absolutely needs to defeat a calamity. Luffy defeated cracked and katakuri the previous arc, zoro would look pathetic if he can't at least match a calamity. Of course, zoro does not need to defeat a bunch of calamities. Sanji needs to defeat someone like oven or equivalent....

Thanks for the like and yeah Zoro and Sanji need to show more of their power in this as there are plenty of huge time fighters in this from both Big Mom, Kairi, and Marines (Though the latter is neutral party though).

Though Shogun seems to be only Zoro's main opponent that make sense to him to face, so Idk if he should fight off a Calamity and then faced him. If they are anything at same or stronger than Big Mom's crew, I don't see him being that strong in stamina to continue fighting. Feel like just a Shogun is enough as it seems he is hype to be same lvl as Kaido's Calamity group. I think one is enough for him.

Sanji already proven he can fight over and take on powers of Semi-Commander with Oven, Daifuku, and Perospero. So he can probably take on a Calamity especially if the Raid Suit he makes it as one with him and fight with his own skills and powers like Zoro's swords.

I can see him fighting of a Sweet Commander, Calamity, or Admiral. Preferably either Jack which seems Oda is foreshadowing for him to face due to the part he feels bad for Pedro's death and remember what he said about the leaders of Zou need to be protected.

He can come to the aid of them and face off with Jack one on one in respect and tribute to Pedro.

Then after that/or he can handle Kizaru who probably will be problematic with his speed and interference along with being a neutral party. Sanji is his best opponent against him since he can predict him due to having the best Observation Haki in the crew (Equal to Luffy) and Sanji has been confirmed by Oda that he is indeed the fastest or one of the fastest in the group.

Also it's quite a dream match for these to face off since both work mainly with kicks (well Kizaru is a bit more diverse in fighting style) and their speed. So will be a interesting fight.

Also still a firm believer that Sanji is temporary with the suit as there will be times in the arc he will rely without it.

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My guess is that since BM is very mature, she'll leave all the defeated commanders at home to "protect and rebuild", only letting Smoothie and sone uber powerful fodders on her ship.

Nami will defeat Smoothie.

She might leave some people, but not her top tier fighters like Sweet Commanders and Semi-Commanders. She might not leave everyone as she probably knows now to not underestimate anyone at all, so she will bring Armada with her.

Nami vs Smoothie? I don't think if Nami is that good she can face the 2nd strongest of Big Mom easily even with her power up. She is more Semi-Commander/Headliner at best right now.

Someone else will probably fight off Smoothie.

 

[Shasha23]

LOL Sanji fighting an admiral LOL some fanbois will never stop trolling,

Realistically it will go somewhat like this:

Luffy - Kaido
Zoro - Shogun/ calamity
Law - helps Luffy or calamity
Jimbe - headliner
Sanji - headliner
Franky - headliner
Brook - headliner
Franky - headliner
Usopp,Nami, Chopper and Robin will take on random fodder

Matchups will turn out differently depending on Linlin, if she does invade calamities and sweet commanders will face each other while Zoro faces Shogun and Luffy, Law and Kid vs Kaido vs Linlin with the rest facing headliners and people like Daifuku

 

[King Moe]

LOL Sanji fighting an admiral LOL some fanbois will never stop trolling,

Realistically it will go somewhat like this:

Luffy - Kaido
Zoro - Shogun/ calamity
Law - helps Luffy or calamity
Jimbe - headliner
Sanji - headliner
Franky - headliner
Brook - headliner
Franky - headliner
Usopp,Nami, Chopper and Robin will take on random fodder

Matchups will turn out differently depending on Linlin, if she does invade calamities and sweet commanders will face each other while Zoro faces Shogun and Luffy, Law and Kid vs Kaido vs Linlin with the rest facing headliners and people like Daifuku

Not really a troll. You honestly think he stop getting stronger than that's dumb to think that especially he got a Raid Suit lol.

Also since Luffy is a unofficial Yonko, it makes Sanji and Zoro his top commanders. They will need to stay strong to handle a lot of stuff after all. Jimbei Idk as I get him as leader of Grand Fleet than official member since he still rather stay with his crew. See that more favorable on him, but a great ally to have.

Though your list is good, but disagree on certain points you have. Especially Usopp, Nami, Chopper, and Robin as I doubt it especially Usopp after just learning Observation Haki and Nami with Zeus, I doubt Oda will waste those on fodder only. They will face stronger opponents as honestly, no one in the Strawhats has shown their full power yet, so Wano is a big chance for a lot of fighters and matchups around.

 

[afromarco005]

The fights I want are:

• Zoro vs Hawkins : Zoro surpasses all his probabilities and predictions, Hawkins loses his calm is defeated and finally becomes an ally of the future pirate king crew- Zoro mid diff
• Zoro vs X.Drake: the first hard fight for zoro in the new world. Zoro is beaten up to a pulp at first because he would have underestimated xdrake thinking he is in the same tier as Hawkins but after getting serious and clamly analyzing Drakes fighting style zoro comes up with a strategy and comes up on top defeating Drake in a bloody, hard fought match-zoro hard diff + his armament haki improves drastically during the match to overpower Drake's
• Zoro vs Apoo: after the fight with drake Apoo defeats zoro with ease due to his injuries thats when Chopper and the others come into play.
• Apoo vs Straw hats minus Luffy+The arc temporary allys : team wins with some difficulty
• Then they start to invade the shoguns castle/Kaidos lair :
• Jack comes and defeats sanji with ease
• Law/Minks/potential ally vs Jack: MidHigh diff
• Franky/Ussopp/Chopper/Nami/Kinemon/Robin? vs kaidos underlings in individual fights : hard diff for every straw hat
• Sanji vs Marine Helmeppo: Sanji high diff
• There comes the second calamity vs Sanji in raid suit: Sanji loses low diff
• Straw hats minus luffy sanji and zoro + new allys (Apoo Hawkins) vs second calamity : high diff for the allys
• Shogun who is a calamity vs Zoro: Zoro extreme diff, zoro is handicaped by his previous wouds but still fights bravely, he is left bloody and unconcious after his win
• Finally Kaido vs Supernova: Luffy, Apoo, Xdrake, Law, Hawkins : long fight with tricks to damage or incapacitate kaido because head on straightforward combat is impossible to win, they will have to outsmart him. Their plan works but yonko will be yonko and kaido survives/gets out of the trap and beats them all only for the last fight to happen:
• Kaido vs Gear 5 awakened luffy + Ma.D Monk Urouge who would have fallen from the sky to save the day: Extreme diff win for luffy.Dunno if big mom will enter the fray at some point but she could be defeated by Blackbeard to hype him up as final vilain/Pirate king material or fight marines

Whoa that was long, but these are my dream matchups for the arc. thank you for reading if you reached up to this point.

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Zoro absolutely needs to defeat a calamity. Luffy defeated cracked and katakuri the previous arc, zoro would look pathetic if he can't at least match a calamity. Of course, zoro does not need to defeat a bunch of calamities. Sanji needs to defeat someone like oven or equivalent....

no I think Sanji wont fight much, however I can picture him baking Kaido a giant Steak with wine and fix him a cocktail.

 

[King Moe]

The fights I want are:

• Zoro vs Hawkins : Zoro surpasses all his probabilities and predictions, Hawkins loses his calm is defeated and finally becomes an ally of the future pirate king crew- Zoro mid diff
• Zoro vs X.Drake: the first hard fight for zoro in the new world. Zoro is beaten up to a pulp at first because he would have underestimated xdrake thinking he is in the same tier as Hawkins but after getting serious and clamly analyzing Drakes fighting style zoro comes up with a strategy and comes up on top defeating Drake in a bloody, hard fought match-zoro hard diff + his armament haki improves drastically during the match to overpower Drake's
• Zoro vs Apoo: after the fight with drake Apoo defeats zoro with ease due to his injuries thats when Chopper and the others come into play.
• Apoo vs Straw hats minus Luffy+The arc temporary allys : team wins with some difficulty
• Then they start to invade the shoguns castle/Kaidos lair :
• Jack comes and defeats sanji with ease
• Law/Minks/potential ally vs Jack: MidHigh diff
• Franky/Ussopp/Chopper/Nami/Kinemon/Robin? vs kaidos underlings in individual fights : hard diff for every straw hat
• Sanji vs Marine Helmeppo: Sanji high diff
• There comes the second calamity vs Sanji in raid suit: Sanji loses low diff
• Straw hats minus luffy sanji and zoro + new allys (Apoo Hawkins) vs second calamity : high diff for the allys
• Shogun who is a calamity vs Zoro: Zoro extreme diff, zoro is handicaped by his previous wouds but still fights bravely, he is left bloody and unconcious after his win
• Finally Kaido vs Supernova: Luffy, Apoo, Xdrake, Law, Hawkins : long fight with tricks to damage or incapacitate kaido because head on straightforward combat is impossible to win, they will have to outsmart him. Their plan works but yonko will be yonko and kaido survives/gets out of the trap and beats them all only for the last fight to happen:
• Kaido vs Gear 5 awakened luffy + Ma.D Monk Urouge who would have fallen from the sky to save the day: Extreme diff win for luffy.Dunno if big mom will enter the fray at some point but she could be defeated by Blackbeard to hype him up as final vilain/Pirate king material or fight marines

Whoa that was long, but these are my dream matchups for the arc. thank you for reading if you reached up to this point.

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no I think Sanji wont fight much, however I can picture him baking Kaido a giant Steak with wine and fix him a cocktail.

Welp...I knew I will also attract even haters of characters like you Afro. Not surprise really. Now time to debunk your biased selection while being respectful about it.

First off, if your still upset about the "cake stuff" and think Sanji is done as a fight, then your clear biased and truly didn't understand the arc on why the cake was important and the arc's theme. Sanji didn't even cook it for her, but to save his friends which I told you in my other post in the Sanji's discussion, so go read that to understand my point as I am talking something else here.

1. Zoro vs Hawkins: After seeing Zoro get hit by nails and Hawkins wasn't even trying as much as he was, I doubt Zoro can win this in a low-mid way. That lose hype on him a lot as lot of Zoro fans overhype him and think every character is beneath him when prove wrong last chapter. So nah, I don't think he is the right opponent for him to win against and even if he does fight him again and he needs to win, probably be very high diff as Hawkins can resupply dolls and create lives out of them. We haven't even seen his most strongest attack yet and that was just him saying it's "games" to him.

2. Zoro vs X Drake: Again since Zoro had trouble with Hawkins, Idk how he fare with Drake since he seems more ruthless compare to Hawkins in ways since he destroy a village. Though could be interesting challenge and maybe a bit "easier" for him since it's not a Straw and Drake is more physical, might see Zoro winning this, but again it's to be determine since we haven't seen X Drake on how strong he become and we can't underestimate him and other Supernovas alike unlike Zoro Fans on how they did with Hawkins, right ?

3. Zoro vs Apoo: Why you think Zoro will face all the Supernovas on this island alone and only him? Now your overhyping him as there is Luffy, Law, Sanji (Though of course, your biased Sanji hater and Zoro lover, so your post is clearly visible on biased, so not surprise), and the others who could face them and Zoro probably won't at all. Now while Apoo seems to be more long distance fighter than close up fighter from how he shows his powers (But then again that was Kizaru and being a Logia he probably knew not to get physical with him), but like Hawkins and X Drake, we don't know how strong his abilities gotten too and shouldn't think Zoro can beat him with ease especially if he fights from a distance. Don't want another '"screwed" up fantasy situation' and proven you guys wrong, right XD?

4. Apoo vs Strawhats: Is this together or by themselves? Cause I can understand which ones can struggle against Apoo like probably Usopp, Nami, Brook, and Chopper. Though in single fight, Sanji, Franky, and even Robin can take him out. Though all together, don't care Apoo on his abilities, Strawhats on team work is another lvl, so Apoo won't lost long and won't be that difficult as you say.

5. Sanji vs Jack: Lol, highly doubt this since Sanji shown his own against Semi-Commanders like Daifuku and Oven without much struggle, so he is near or at lvl of a Sweet Commander and Calamity and now with the Raid Suit, it increase his power more as it uses his own skills and abilities to make as one just like Zoro with his swords. Nice try on hiding your Sanji's biased .

6. Law and Zou Leaders along with Minks vs Jack: Sanji would defeat himself, so no need for this, so yeah don't get your logic with this one. Though if Jack happens to clash or escape Sanji, then this can happen, but I feel Jack will reach his limit after his hard fight with Sanji and that will be that lol. Though will be harder and difficult for the others for sure if they need team up to beat them.

7. Strawhats and Allies vs Kaido's Crew: I can agree on this since this will most likely happen in the arc, they probably face high tier fighters of Headliners or in-between of Headliner and Calamity or even the Japanese Military Ranking characters as I mention in my post above.

8. Sanji vs Marine Helmeppo: Kinda random you put this here when you know Helmeppo is at Reverie right now with Coby, right? Plus it's low diff for this guy since Sanji already shown more feats than this fool lol. Nice try on hiding your "feelings", but hey since Zoro got hit with nails, maybe Helmeppo got more of a chance to beat him down with swords since they are swifter, faster, sharper, heavier, etc.. Make sense since he is compare to be another rival for Zoro in swordsmanship after all.

9. Sanji vs Second Calamity: Pretty sure all the other Calamity will be taken as they won't try fighting the next person as Calamity will be one of the hardest fight and even winning, they will be exhausted probably look at Luffy with Sweet Commanders. Though I am touch you think he can face another one, but probably win since Raid Suit can be OP in the right hands just like the right DF in the right hands with potential, you know xD?

10. Strawhats and Alliance vs Second Calamity: There is no need, Sanji beat him already, done deal. Don't get why you feel the need to overhype so much. Come on now XD. Though if going that Sanji only clash with him or escape from him, then I can see this happen for the others, but I feel Calamity will be one on one by others in this arc instead taken out by team work or at least they aren't the ones to be taken out by teamwork in the arc.

11. Zoro vs Shogun: Agree on this except that Shogun is separate from the Calamity as it's never mention a Calamity is the Shogun. He is a separate person from Kaido's alliance like the Underworld fighters who attend Big Mom's tea party and have alliance with her. We don't even know if he at Calamity lvl. Sure he makes dealings and alliance with Kaido, but doesn't mean he is at his lvl or even his Calamity. Could be close to Calamity lvl, but again yet to be seen and how he match up to them.

12. Kaido vs Supernova: I can see this happening, but I feel Hawkins, X Drake, and Apoo will have their hands fill with something else or another. I see more Luffy, Law, and Kidd facing more on Kaido facing together to prove their worth in the New World and competing like they were after the timeskip in Sabody, you know? Though still like your idea of all of them coming together to fight Kaido.

13. Kaido vs Gear 5ft Luffy and Urouge: Ah yes...A fantasy battle, nice to always have this despite zero proof and such if it will happen compare to other's list, yeah. Lol, well with this I can now conclude yours is based on such fantasy and biased lol. Lucky your not writing OP though and Oda is, but I do like certain ideas of yours, I won't lie. Thanks for giving me and others an "treat" for your list. Hope to have another laugh if this is you being serious on things lol.

Try to put more logic and less biased please. Not hating on you or anything, but this topic is more logical outcomes that could probably happen than fantasy ones that you put up. Thanks for taking time to post though and good luck with Zoro's dreams despite getting nailed last chapter. Zoro will be hammer soon as well, so try to keep hype on a understanding lvl, than overhype please. Thanks .

 

[afromarco005]

Welp...I knew I will also attract even haters of characters like you Afro. Not surprise really. Now time to debunk your biased selection while being respectful about it.

First off, if your still upset about the "cake stuff" and think Sanji is done as a fight, then your clear biased and truly didn't understand the arc on why the cake was important and the arc's theme. Sanji didn't even cook it for her, but to save his friends which I told you in my other post in the Sanji's discussion, so go read that to understand my point as I am talking something else here.

1. Zoro vs Hawkins: After seeing Zoro get hit by nails and Hawkins wasn't even trying as much as he was, I doubt Zoro can win this in a low-mid way. That lose hype on him a lot as lot of Zoro fans overhype him and think every character is beneath him when prove wrong last chapter. So nah, I don't think he is the right opponent for him to win against and even if he does fight him again and he needs to win, probably be very high diff as Hawkins can resupply dolls and create lives out of them. We haven't even seen his most strongest attack yet and that was just him saying it's "games" to him.

2. Zoro vs X Drake: Again since Zoro had trouble with Hawkins, Idk how he fare with Drake since he seems more ruthless compare to Hawkins in ways since he destroy a village. Though could be interesting challenge and maybe a bit "easier" for him since it's not a Straw and Drake is more physical, might see Zoro winning this, but again it's to be determine since we haven't seen X Drake on how strong he become and we can't underestimate him and other Supernovas alike unlike Zoro Fans on how they did with Hawkins, right ?

3. Zoro vs Apoo: Why you think Zoro will face all the Supernovas on this island alone and only him? Now your overhyping him as there is Luffy, Law, Sanji (Though of course, your biased Sanji hater and Zoro lover, so your post is clearly visible on biased, so not surprise), and the others who could face them and Zoro probably won't at all. Now while Apoo seems to be more long distance fighter than close up fighter from how he shows his powers (But then again that was Kizaru and being a Logia he probably knew not to get physical with him), but like Hawkins and X Drake, we don't know how strong his abilities gotten too and shouldn't think Zoro can beat him with ease especially if he fights from a distance. Don't want another '"screwed" up fantasy situation' and proven you guys wrong, right XD?

4. Apoo vs Strawhats: Is this together or by themselves? Cause I can understand which ones can struggle against Apoo like probably Usopp, Nami, Brook, and Chopper. Though in single fight, Sanji, Franky, and even Robin can take him out. Though all together, don't care Apoo on his abilities, Strawhats on team work is another lvl, so Apoo won't lost long and won't be that difficult as you say.

5. Sanji vs Jack: Lol, highly doubt this since Sanji shown his own against Semi-Commanders like Daifuku and Oven without much struggle, so he is near or at lvl of a Sweet Commander and Calamity and now with the Raid Suit, it increase his power more as it uses his own skills and abilities to make as one just like Zoro with his swords. Nice try on hiding your Sanji's biased .

6. Law and Zou Leaders along with Minks vs Jack: Sanji would defeat himself, so no need for this, so yeah don't get your logic with this one. Though if Jack happens to clash or escape Sanji, then this can happen, but I feel Jack will reach his limit after his hard fight with Sanji and that will be that lol. Though will be harder and difficult for the others for sure if they need team up to beat them.

7. Strawhats and Allies vs Kaido's Crew: I can agree on this since this will most likely happen in the arc, they probably face high tier fighters of Headliners or in-between of Headliner and Calamity or even the Japanese Military Ranking characters as I mention in my post above.

8. Sanji vs Marine Helmeppo: Kinda random you put this here when you know Helmeppo is at Reverie right now with Coby, right? Plus it's low diff for this guy since Sanji already shown more feats than this fool lol. Nice try on hiding your "feelings", but hey since Zoro got hit with nails, maybe Helmeppo got more of a chance to beat him down with swords since they are swifter, faster, sharper, heavier, etc.. Make sense since he is compare to be another rival for Zoro in swordsmanship after all.

9. Sanji vs Second Calamity: Pretty sure all the other Calamity will be taken as they won't try fighting the next person as Calamity will be one of the hardest fight and even winning, they will be exhausted probably look at Luffy with Sweet Commanders. Though I am touch you think he can face another one, but probably win since Raid Suit can be OP in the right hands just like the right DF in the right hands with potential, you know xD?

10. Strawhats and Alliance vs Second Calamity: There is no need, Sanji beat him already, done deal. Don't get why you feel the need to overhype so much. Come on now XD. Though if going that Sanji only clash with him or escape from him, then I can see this happen for the others, but I feel Calamity will be one on one by others in this arc instead taken out by team work or at least they aren't the ones to be taken out by teamwork in the arc.

11. Zoro vs Shogun: Agree on this except that Shogun is separate from the Calamity as it's never mention a Calamity is the Shogun. He is a separate person from Kaido's alliance like the Underworld fighters who attend Big Mom's tea party and have alliance with her. We don't even know if he at Calamity lvl. Sure he makes dealings and alliance with Kaido, but doesn't mean he is at his lvl or even his Calamity. Could be close to Calamity lvl, but again yet to be seen and how he match up to them.

12. Kaido vs Supernova: I can see this happening, but I feel Hawkins, X Drake, and Apoo will have their hands fill with something else or another. I see more Luffy, Law, and Kidd facing more on Kaido facing together to prove their worth in the New World and competing like they were after the timeskip in Sabody, you know? Though still like your idea of all of them coming together to fight Kaido.

13. Kaido vs Gear 5ft Luffy and Urouge: Ah yes...A fantasy battle, nice to always have this despite zero proof and such if it will happen compare to other's list, yeah. Lol, well with this I can now conclude yours is based on such fantasy and biased lol. Lucky your not writing OP though and Oda is, but I do like certain ideas of yours, I won't lie. Thanks for giving me and others an "treat" for your list. Hope to have another laugh if this is you being serious on things lol.

Try to put more logic and less biased please. Not hating on you or anything, but this topic is more logical outcomes that could probably happen than fantasy ones that you put up. Thanks for taking time to post though and good luck with Zoro's dreams despite getting nailed last chapter. Zoro will be hammer soon as well, so try to keep hype on a understanding lvl, than overhype please. Thanks .

Dude chill, the cocktail part was just a joke (and I hope it remains one...)
Ok I admit that zoro is hype. He is arguably the reason why people wanted whole cake to end and wano to start.

-On the Hawkins incident, Zoro only got hurt by nails because he sheilded luffy and O.Tama from the projectiles, he still managed to deflect most of them with only two swords and "kill" Hawkins twice. Zoro low/ mid diffs Hawkins unless the later shows some hax ability with his devil fruit then its high diff.
Dont forget that your argument can go both ways, zoro has not showed much of his arsenal since the time skip, like Ashura etc. And what he showed was 100x stronger than pre skip ex infinite tatsumaki, stronger flying slashes that even pushed back an admiral etc.

-On the sanji matchups, Sanji is strong yes. I think that he may almost be as strong as Ivankoff his master, but lets get real here, he is not ready for yonko commanders when even Luffy the strongest straw hat by far struggled heavily with middle commanders like crackers even with gear 4th. Sanji doesnt even have attacks comparable to gear 4th... And if we say, for the sake of the argument, that the raid suit makes him as strong as gear 4th, he doesnt have a tenth of the stamina of the likes of Luffy or Zoro who are tanks and wont defeat guys like Jack who fought the dukes nonstop for days and came out unscathed, and he is not even the strongest calamity... I mean ya cant forget that leg cracked against vergo, a fodder against any yonko commander
Dont sleep on Kaidos top Boys, they are savages.
However, Ill admit that Sanji has become a way better cook, and he can feed Luffy and zoro (hopefully not kaido ) some battle cuisine to boost their fighting potential, we still need to see them 99 recipes Oda!!!

- On Helmeppo the marine. Omg dont sleep on my boy Helmeppo! The guy is on his way to become a legendary marine alongside Coby, he will be the new Sengoku and Coby the new garp!!!
The guy will soon be Zoros rival, the world steongest swordsmans rival!!! which means he needs to train first ex against a cook, to get to that level. My boy needs the experience

Finally I think that you are aware that gear 4th or its variations wont be enough to defeat Kaido? the strongest creature in the world? he will need something more awakening or gear 5. Ma.D Monk is just in case to backup luffy with the strongest supernova they might have a chance.

 

[King Moe]

Dude chill, the cocktail part was just a joke (and I hope it remains one...)
Ok I admit that zoro is hype. He is arguably the reason why people wanted whole cake to end and wano to start.

-On the Hawkins incident, Zoro only got hurt by nails because he sheilded luffy and O.Tama from the projectiles, he still managed to deflect most of them with only two swords and "kill" Hawkins twice. Zoro low/ mid diffs Hawkins unless the later shows some hax ability with his devil fruit then its high diff.
Dont forget that your argument can go both ways, zoro has not showed much of his arsenal since the time skip, like Ashura etc. And what he showed was 100x stronger than pre skip ex infinite tatsumaki, stronger flying slashes that even pushed back an admiral etc.

-On the sanji matchups, Sanji is strong yes. I think that he may almost be as strong as Ivankoff his master, but lets get real here, he is not ready for yonko commanders when even Luffy the strongest straw hat by far struggled heavily with middle commanders like crackers even with gear 4th. Sanji doesnt even have attacks comparable to gear 4th... And if we say, for the sake of the argument, that the raid suit makes him as strong as gear 4th, he doesnt have a tenth of the stamina of the likes of Luffy or Zoro who are tanks and wont defeat guys like Jack who fought the dukes nonstop for days and came out unscathed, and he is not even the strongest calamity... I mean ya cant forget that leg cracked against vergo, a fodder against any yonko commander
Dont sleep on Kaidos top Boys, they are savages.
However, Ill admit that Sanji has become a way better cook, and he can feed Luffy and zoro (hopefully not kaido ) some battle cuisine to boost their fighting potential, we still need to see them 99 recipes Oda!!!

- On Helmeppo the marine. Omg dont sleep on my boy Helmeppo! The guy is on his way to become a legendary marine alongside Coby, he will be the new Sengoku and Coby the new garp!!!
The guy will soon be Zoros rival, the world steongest swordsmans rival!!! which means he needs to train first ex against a cook, to get to that level. My boy needs the experience

Finally I think that you are aware that gear 4th or its variations wont be enough to defeat Kaido? the strongest creature in the world? he will need something more awakening or gear 5. Ma.D Monk is just in case to backup luffy with the strongest supernova they might have a chance.

Not even upset and mad, I was actually playing along with you if you saw my emotion and icons, but yeah, don't sleep on Sanji now and overhype Zoro again after the Hawkins bout XD. That's bad thing as One Piece doesn't involve around Zoro and also not everyone thinks that as others were getting annoy by it even Youtubers. They are loud minority, not majority as without him OP can be epic especially in WCI with Luffy vs Katakuri fight, Sanji clashes, and so on. Also don't get me started with Reverie as people want that to continue more than Wano after it was move over lol.

1. Yeah, I know he did, but still Zoro has Haki, so he could have either predict and block them all and if he does tank it, he could have use Armament Haki to shield his body from damage. Doesn't make sense how he got injured like that out of it. Either he didn't think fast or Hawkins has Haki and his is stronger than what Zoro uses in those nails. Also I know Zoro wasn't at full power either, but you can clearly see he was struggle as he needed to bring out two swords to push back the doll and commented on it's strength before being riddle with nails. Hawkins wasn't even moving or trying with his power either, so it's remand to be seen who would win, but so far Hawkins got more advantage in that clash than Zoro did in the end admit it or not.

I also know he was protecting Luffy and Otama, but hey since your admitting that, that means you can't hold it onto Sanji from protecting Luffy with the Yonko Group and tanking for him too cause then that make you and others hypocrite for using the same scenario in this too, so either accept it or don't. Just saying, both Sanji and Zoro are tanks and it would have taken more than that to best them since both haven't shown true power at all yet.

2. Thank you for admitting Sanji is still strong and fight and Idk about Ivankov as yes she did train him with the Okamas, but now he surpassed them already since Sanji said he needed to get all their recipes. So that means Sanji already defeated Ivankov since he got his recipe long while back. He is ready for one as again like Zoro, he hasn't shown his full kicking techniques in both Diamble Jamble and Haki formats. We never seen Anti Kick Course, Shoot styles, etc.. It's the same with Zoro with his sword techniques, you can't say that for him and say it for Sanji which is true as we haven't seen much of his arsenal more.

Also your point with Luffy doesn't mean anything as that mean Zoro will struggle more too especially when we saw with Hawkins, so nice try on that. Also Stamina? Sanji ran for two years straight on a island being chase for that long and your saying he has no stamina or durability compare to these two? Lol, you really have been focusing on the minor points too much you forget who this guy is. Sure he hasn't shown anything Gear 4th lvl just yet, but neither Zoro as well as what you think he is at that lvl? Again biased in your nature there, so sorry to disappoint you, but Zoro and Sanji are Gear 2nd and Gear 3rd right now until they show more power. Plus now with a Raid Suit, he will have a increasion of power as he becomes one with it like Zoro with his swords, so if your thinking that isn't enough despite he even stronger than his siblings with or without his suits. You really sleeping on him too much and it's embarrassing all because your aiming at wrong areas.

Also again with the Vergo verdict again? Tell me, who left the fight? Vergo. Who kept fighting to the end despite getting a fractured? Sanji? Plus this is him after Law switch his body with Nami and use it to tank damage for him and he had to readjust himself to fight properly. Plus since when bones mean anything in a fight it get fractured and out? Usopp took a 4-ton bat to the face and skull, but still live along with beating Mr. 4 and Ms. Groundhog Day with Chopper, Harjudan beat Maschive with broken body due to his weight, but send him flying into the air. So how is it that Sanji is going to lose based on bones now? Please stop as your not acting like unbiased like you said you are. Sanji would have difficulty yes, but would have won for all we known and seen from the those fights with broken bones and bodies.

If we ignoring reasons over this, then Zoro has no chance after being hit by nails by a Supernova and struggle with it's strength. If a Calamity shows up, he is dead meat as well. So put reasons on Zoro when you don't include the other facts for Sanji why things end up like that for him. It makes you biased despite your saying not too.

They recipes could probably help them, in which case you can't say it's only Luffy's and Zoro's strength then and it's also Sanji's as well lol. He can also eat his own food and gain power from it as well. Nice try

Yeah, but not above Sanji though. Though Zoro would be more perfect. He lost his reputation with nails, so now to bring him back up as Helmeppo smack some sense into him and show how to work with his swordsmanship more. Good idea .

I know, but Gear 5th is a myth until further notice on hint about it. Also Monk thing which is no proof as well lol. nice try again, but still no avail with what your saying to me.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

The fights I want are:

• Zoro vs Hawkins : Zoro surpasses all his probabilities and predictions, Hawkins loses his calm is defeated and finally becomes an ally of the future pirate king crew- Zoro mid diff
• Zoro vs X.Drake: the first hard fight for zoro in the new world. Zoro is beaten up to a pulp at first because he would have underestimated xdrake thinking he is in the same tier as Hawkins but after getting serious and clamly analyzing Drakes fighting style zoro comes up with a strategy and comes up on top defeating Drake in a bloody, hard fought match-zoro hard diff + his armament haki improves drastically during the match to overpower Drake's
• Zoro vs Apoo: after the fight with drake Apoo defeats zoro with ease due to his injuries thats when Chopper and the others come into play.
• Apoo vs Straw hats minus Luffy+The arc temporary allys : team wins with some difficulty
• Then they start to invade the shoguns castle/Kaidos lair :
• Jack comes and defeats sanji with ease
• Law/Minks/potential ally vs Jack: MidHigh diff
• Franky/Ussopp/Chopper/Nami/Kinemon/Robin? vs kaidos underlings in individual fights : hard diff for every straw hat
• Sanji vs Marine Helmeppo: Sanji high diff
• There comes the second calamity vs Sanji in raid suit: Sanji loses low diff
• Straw hats minus luffy sanji and zoro + new allys (Apoo Hawkins) vs second calamity : high diff for the allys
• Shogun who is a calamity vs Zoro: Zoro extreme diff, zoro is handicaped by his previous wouds but still fights bravely, he is left bloody and unconcious after his win
• Finally Kaido vs Supernova: Luffy, Apoo, Xdrake, Law, Hawkins : long fight with tricks to damage or incapacitate kaido because head on straightforward combat is impossible to win, they will have to outsmart him. Their plan works but yonko will be yonko and kaido survives/gets out of the trap and beats them all only for the last fight to happen:
• Kaido vs Gear 5 awakened luffy + Ma.D Monk Urouge who would have fallen from the sky to save the day: Extreme diff win for luffy.Dunno if big mom will enter the fray at some point but she could be defeated by Blackbeard to hype him up as final vilain/Pirate king material or fight marines

Whoa that was long, but these are my dream matchups for the arc. thank you for reading if you reached up to this point.

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no I think Sanji wont fight much, however I can picture him baking Kaido a giant Steak with wine and fix him a cocktail.

I love your sanjibashing.

 

[King Moe]

I love your sanjibashing.

More like overhyping Zoro too much that he can take all Supernovas by himself. When nails can hurt him badly like that. It's fun to pretend within posts like those despite the harsh reality, isn't it XD?

Looks like Sanji will need to help Zoro out to get with his senses this arc which I excited for a team up between them.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Aaaaw cry me a river. Wanna have some cake to the salt over Zoros hype?

In Wano its only natural i want to see Zoro. This was builded up since thriller bark and since then he never was going really all out in a 1 vs. 1. If he doesnt get atleast 1 REAL fight against a powerhouse I will get really pissed. "

I dont want to see a teambattle and i dont want to see luffy kicking kaidos ass. Just give me a good zorofight.

 

[King Moe]

Aaaaw cry me a river. Wanna have some cake to the salt over Zoros hype?

In Wano its only natural i want to see Zoro. This was builded up since thriller bark and since then he never was going really all out in a 1 vs. 1. If he doesnt get atleast 1 REAL fight against a powerhouse I will get really pissed. "

I dont want to see a teambattle and i dont want to see luffy kicking kaidos ass. Just give me a good zorofight.

Who's salty? I enjoy Zoro as much as the next guy, but you must learn not to overhype him thinking every character he face will be easy victory as Hawkins proves that isn't the case if he is capable of injuring him. No need to be upset cause I am telling the truth about Zoro. I like him as well, but he isn't the main one I only looking forward too.

I am looking for everyone's contribution since this arc will be a total war, so we going to need everyone to help out for fights as much as possible. Even Zoro can't handle everything on his own if your thinking that. He will get his one on one fight, probably with the Shogun as his final opponent in Wano which I hope it is.

Looking for to Luffy vs Kaido, Sanji vs Jack (Or any Calamity or high tier opponent), Law vs Calamity, etc.. I am just putting out there. Not trying to hate on you at all XD.

 

[hokageji]

Here's my list:
Sanji vs Jack
Sanji helped save the island of Zou, defeated a headliner Sheepshead already. With all these questions about Sanji's haki ability, it will great to see them answered fighting Jack.

Zoro vs the other disaster:
There should be two more disasters, Queen and KIng, Zoro can fight one of them.

Luffy + Law + Kidd vs Kaido
Not all the 3 at the same time, but we know Luffy is gonna fight Kaido this arc.. No matter how much I wish Luffy doesn't fight Kaido one on one, it will happen. SO I hope atleast, Kaido is softened up a bit by Law and Kidd for Luffy to take him down.

Headliner Apoo vs Soul King Brook:
DJ vs Soul King, it writes itself....

 

[afromarco005]

Here's my list:
Sanji vs Jack
Sanji helped save the island of Zou, defeated a headliner Sheepshead already. With all these questions about Sanji's haki ability, it will great to see them answered fighting Jack.

Zoro vs the other disaster:
There should be two more disasters, Queen and KIng, Zoro can fight one of them.

Luffy + Law + Kidd vs Kaido
Not all the 3 at the same time, but we know Luffy is gonna fight Kaido this arc.. No matter how much I wish Luffy doesn't fight Kaido one on one, it will happen. SO I hope atleast, Kaido is softened up a bit by Law and Kidd for Luffy to take him down.

Headliner Apoo vs Soul King Brook:
DJ vs Soul King, it writes itself....

Put some respect on the drought's name he is a savage who fought with the dukes and zous strongest for days, cut neko mamushi and inurashi limbs and still came out unscathed, Sanji alone cant do Jack to him.

 

[hokageji]

Sanji alone cant do Jack to him.

Like the pun, well done...

Yea, you are absolutely right, Sanji cant do shit of what we've seen. The same stood for Luffy vs Doflamingo before gear 4 and what he can do...
Same with Sanji post time skip...
Yes, he can do skywalk, bluewalk and really move quick. But he haven't seen him use Haki to the fullest yet... Thats' the kind of powerup which will be good to see..

 

[King Moe]

Here's my list:
Sanji vs Jack
Sanji helped save the island of Zou, defeated a headliner Sheepshead already. With all these questions about Sanji's haki ability, it will great to see them answered fighting Jack.

Zoro vs the other disaster:
There should be two more disasters, Queen and KIng, Zoro can fight one of them.

Luffy + Law + Kidd vs Kaido
Not all the 3 at the same time, but we know Luffy is gonna fight Kaido this arc.. No matter how much I wish Luffy doesn't fight Kaido one on one, it will happen. SO I hope atleast, Kaido is softened up a bit by Law and Kidd for Luffy to take him down.

Headliner Apoo vs Soul King Brook:
DJ vs Soul King, it writes itself....

1. Sanji vs Jack: I can see that happening for Sanji vs Jack especially after he realizes Pedro's death, you see him think about the flashback of Pedro saying to protect Zou's Leaders. Of all the things to remember him, why remember that instead of something else (Even though that was him and the others first meeting)? That's heavily hinting a clash between the two especially more that Sheephead after being beaten by Sanji told him who confronted them, so he probably know Sanji and the others and looking for have revenge on them the most.

2. Zoro vs Calamity: I can see that happening, but if he does, I doubt he can face the Shogun as Oda seems to be setting him up as close or equal lvl to a Calamity. I doubt Zoro can fight off a Calamity and then a Shogun like that if Luffy had more trouble fighting Sweet Commanders back to back. It's best if he just face off with the Shogun and don't fight a Calamity or it be too much for him.

3. Luffy, Law, and Kidd vs Kaido: I see this all happening, but whether it's one at a time or team up, depends. Could go like Doflamingo and Law and Kidd get first dibs before being defeated and Luffy takes in to finish him himself one on one. Like Luffy facing him one on one too and plus so that he didn't need help in beating him as well. Though it seems to be planning into that, but we have to wait and see.

4. Apoo vs Brook:......I just hate myself as I forgot about these two being musical fighters LOL XD!!! This would be a dream match and probably will happen as since Sanji, Nami, Chopper, Brook, and Carrot are all together, they might have a collision with X Drake or Apoo or both, so this can be something worth while and dream match for Brook to face off with Apoo when it comes to both music and fighting. Thanks for putting that Hokageji !

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Like the pun, well done...

Yea, you are absolutely right, Sanji cant do shit of what we've seen. The same stood for Luffy vs Doflamingo before gear 4 and what he can do...
Same with Sanji post time skip...
Yes, he can do skywalk, bluewalk and really move quick. But he haven't seen him use Haki to the fullest yet... Thats' the kind of powerup which will be good to see..

Don't underestimate Sanji just because we haven't seen more of him combat wise, but we got a glimpse he is stronger than others think as we saw him handling Daifuku and Oven without much struggle especially as the anime shows it more by Oda's orders. So pretty sure he can reach up taking a Sweet Commander and Calamity lvl. Especially if you think about Luffy being a "Yonko", his top commanders would be as follow Sanji, Zoro, and Jimbei (Though I still see him as more leader of Grand Fleet than official crew mate to me) as these are the top strongest of the crew underneath the captain, so Sanji will and have to be stronger to be at lvl of not just Monster Trio, but also Top commander of the Strawhats too.

Plus if we judging by minor stuff despite Oda shows he is still a strong fighter and all, then same can be said about Zoro as he got nailed by nails (No pun intended) and then comments on Hawkins strength. Now not saying if it was a full fight that Zoro would lose or at least it won't be that easy to defeat Hawkins like that. Though if he face someone higher, it putting doubts if Zoro can win against higher tier people at all since so far he only face fodder-like characters to not really make him struggle, not because he is stronger, but just that they weren't that strong to begin with as we seen his clashes with Fujitora, that he can struggle with Admirals and can't even cut the birdcage, so at this point we can really said the same thing.

As for Haki, it will grow stronger as time goes on. We all didn't know if Jimbei uses Haki much on how he fights, but shown it in WCI on hardening and Judge said he does have Haki down too, so won't be long to see it get encoated, but then again didn't Oda said it's hard to draw his Haki coating on his legs do to his black pants? It make it hard to see. Though yeah, Sanji has potential to get a lot of powerups and I think the Raid Suit will push it more and rarely use Raid Suit much since I still see it temporarily thing for him honestly.