Discussion Garp Discussion Thread

[LALAPUI]

Re: Why isn't Garp an admiral?

for the same reason smoker was a simple captain and now is a commodore: because they don't belives in absolute justice

also, he is the father of dragon. sangoku said that if garp isn't the "hero of the marine", he would pay for the crimes of his family

Well Aokiji doesn't beleive in absolute justice and he is and admiral perhaps he is not an admiral because exept superhuman strengh he doesn't have anything else maybe Haki and also he is not an admiral cause of the crimes of his family all of them are pirates or criminals.

 

[Beldin]

Re: Why isn't Garp an admiral?

but aokiji didn't break the rules

also with superhuman strenght and haki rayleigh fight on par with an admiral, why garp not? he fought to death with the PIRATE KING many times

the pirate king, not a "little rascal" or a "vulcano brat"

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Re: Why isn't Garp an admiral?

The marine (or rather the top marines) knows he has saved Gol D. Roger'son, he is the father of Monkey D. Dragon and the grandfather of Monkey D. Luffy. That means a lot of the great bad events are linked to his family : he is a man that draws problems.
Besides, he likes to make fun and exasperate his superiors (Admiral Ao Kiji and Admiral Sengoku are members of the association of victims).
What's more, he still has a childish behavior as all the Monkey D. seem to have. And finally, he also does not have a DF power that protects his body whereas the Admirals have (except we do not know for Sengoku).

 

[kkck]

Also, if garp was to be made an admiral, the whole logia theme behind the admirals would disappear lol.

 

[BlackHair]

When was it mentioed that Garp has not a Logia or even not a DF ?!

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

When was it mentioed that Garp has not a Logia or even not a DF ?!

The fact that he has not a logia has been established since a while. Have a look here and here. So, that also means kkck was right.
But it has never said that he did not have a DF.

 

[BlackHair]

.. He was sleeping, not aware of his surroundings, foolling around. Hence not in decompose mode (logia state). Rememeber Ace and Smoker who were sent flying by Luffy, even though being a logia? This is a similar case. Nothing is proofed.

Edit: Just to make my point clear, Im not claiming that Garp has a logia fruit. Just saying we dont know anything about his powers. Except that he can use haki, which probably evey big shot can.

 

[bittman]

Sorry, let's backtrack even further.

Where is it proven that Garp can use Haki? Punching Luffy with his "Fist of Love"? Nami did worse half a chapter earlier. It could also be that Garp has a DF which punches through rubber, or he's so impossibly physically strong that even Luffy's innate Rubber abilities mean nothing.

Point is: We really know nothing about Garp except that he's physically superhuman, but again even that could be a ruse given by a DF he may have.

Final point is: Garp's true powers are a mystery.

I do expect Haki, only because he's Luffy's grandfather and not because he actually punched Luffy. Until we knew of Haki I just thought he had an interesting DF...or was insanely powerful. Both still possible in Oda's world.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Rememeber Ace and Smoker who were sent flying by Luffy, even though being a logia? This is a similar case

hm... if we take haki as a spirit... then luffy then had the spirit to fooood and this spirit in luffy cannot be matched against logiapowers ^^

 

[Shadoguardian]

I think Garp might have been offered the position but refused it. His current rank gives him enough freedom to move around as he wishes, and not be overwhelmed by huge responsibilities. A suitable position to allow him to do (more-or-less) whatever he wants. He also might have been feeling guilty about helping out GR at some point or another.

 

[BlackHair]

Sorry, let's backtrack even further.

Where is it proven that Garp can use Haki? Punching Luffy with his "Fist of Love"? Nami did worse half a chapter earlier. It could also be that Garp has a DF which punches through rubber, or he's so impossibly physically strong that even Luffy's innate Rubber abilities mean nothing.

Point is: We really know nothing about Garp except that he's physically superhuman, but again even that could be a ruse given by a DF he may have.

Final point is: Garp's true powers are a mystery.

I do expect Haki, only because he's Luffy's grandfather and not because he actually punched Luffy. Until we knew of Haki I just thought he had an interesting DF...or was insanely powerful. Both still possible in Oda's world.

Saying that Garp can use Haki and stating it as fact is certainly wrong. Just as u said, nothing was said yet. He is still a hidden charackter.

However plz don't compare Garp's punch with Nami's. While Nami's was clearly only for comedy purpose, Garp's was clearly not.

For each serious hit on Luffy there have been comments either from Luffy himself or from other charackter. As Garp hit him, Sanji (Panel 6) commented his rubber intangibility. As BB hit him on ID, Croco (Panel 5) mentioned it too. While fighting the Boa sisters Luffy (Panel 3) himself noted it.

 

[hamad138]

Garp is stronger than the Admiral!

Hello? He killeed nearly THE PIRATE KING?! His strenght must be very strong..

 

[BlackHair]

Admirals, PK, Yonko etc are all at high level (= last tier). Means there is no real power difference in each. Same right now, WB might be the strongest but doesn't say that he will win everyone easily. In fact he would have a hard fight with the second strongest, if there is some1. Also putting Garps prime equal to Roger, doesn't put Garp now above the Admirals.

 

[kkck]

Do you really think the current admirals are as strong as roger was in his prime? I Hsincerely doubt that lol. Just look at old and frail second mate raileight he stood to an admiral even though he had spent the last years of his life drinking himself to death and gambling. He even said he had not used a sword in good knows how long. The PK in his prime would probably have some trouble with any of the admirals but in the end he would just walk away from the fight with the victory.

 

[chess4]

i will to bet anything that the ole boy garp is stronger than all 3 admirals and he probably rivals sengoku in fighting power. im sure there is a reason garp isnt an admiral.

 

[BlackHair]

Do you really think the current admirals are as strong as roger was in his prime?

I understand where you are getting at. But seeing it from the SHs point, I mean the protagonists of a supernatural shounan are usually facing the strongest kind. Since they already met two Admirals, I do believe they are the strongest in history, similar with Lucci of CP9.

Or the current Admirals will be replaced by new stronger ones (Smoker etc).

About Rayleigh, well he was able to hold a Admiral but he was clearly at disadvantage during their swordfight.

About Garp being as strong as the Admirals, I have no doubts on that, I even go further saying that he is slightly stronger. So I kinda agree with chess4.

 

[kkck]

The current admirals being the strongest in history would not put them above roger though.

Rayleight was still a match for the guy. The fact that the current dark king is an old man that has esentially drunk his strength away does not change. All in all, the guy kept an admiral at bay even though he is nowhere near his prime.

 

[BlackHair]

The current admirals being the strongest in history would not put them above roger though.

No, of course not. I wasnt putting the Admirals above Roger.

WB is said to be equal to Roger. In the current events he seems to be stronger than the Admirals, considering how easily he fended their attacks. Since WB must be past his prime, he should have been even stronger in his prime, similar to Ray and Garp. So the Admirals can't be stronger than Roger. But that doesn't mean he would have a easy fight with them.

 

[kkck]

I am pretty sure I already said all of that lol(except you used WB as a comparison and I used raileight)...

 

[BlackHair]

Yea' I noticed that too lol. Wasn't my intention. I was focusing only on one matter, e.g every high tier can fight each other on even grounds.

For the last time, Im saying that even the strongest guy wouldn't have an easy fight with the Admirals. The power difference of each are minimal, so that almost every high tier (Admirals, Yonko, some of the Shichi etc) can fight evenly with each other.