Discussion General Couples/Relationship Thread

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

I'm forced to agree with the Matrona x Escanor not having a good chance of happening, as you said Family is what she wants and she currently has that. The thing is... i don't think she and Zarpa are an item, but, her connection to the kids is what keeps her around. After the mother died (Whoever that might be) she seemed to take the role of mother and help raise the kids... there is a chance that romantically she has no affiliation with Zarpa, but, her love for the kids and vice versa is why they call her "mother/mommy" and why she cares deeply about them. This is also a little odd, because Zarpa said that they were his precious family... but, as i said... family can mean many things. I do not believe Zarpa has been capable of forgetting about his previous wife and may not be in a lover position with Matrona.
However, going back to your point... the kids make it so that she stays and that she will not look for other people (I'm actually really sad about this, because she is going to see all those humans die before her because of the lifespan difference).
As for the Diane teasing her... i think that was just Diane teasing her because Matrona didn't seem to impressed by it XD

However, as far as a woman's judgment goes i'm on the other side of the "spectrum" i could not tell you for the life of me about these kinds of things, unless it was a real life situation where i could guestimate

I wonder if Hawk x Leftovers will ever break up, that would be so tragic

I will continue craving an Escanor pairing that becomes canon and i will associate him with everything that moves XD
I'm sort of inclined to believe that Escanor is sort of "perfect" in the taizai world, during the day and may accidentally get people attracted to him, but, then he has to reject them and tell them exactly who he loves, with this kind of face

Ps: I'm going to move my Matrona x Escanor to the very corner of my mind. Now, if Zarpa gets blasted at any point during the story line my reaction will be
But, the small piece will be doing this:

It's funny, but i scrolled through the animatoin faces i think i found something that accurately represents my feelings towards Escanor, Matrona and Merlin...
Merlin is Explorer, Matrona is Firefox and Escanor is the face (although i keep swapping the two woman around)


PPS: I'm still going to write a fanfiction of it (but it won't be a direct lover thing it will be different...) if you check out my other fanficition you will be able to tell that Merlin x Escanor is something i would like to happen, but, i don't mind if it doesn't.

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Speaking of Yuri pairings, why has nobody done a Diane x Elizabeth yet?

... *Just got an idea for his fanficition stories*

It's ok, we all have our favorite ship. I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible for Escanor x Matrona to happen, just that in the light of recent events it might not be the most likely scenario.I see Matrona staying with the kids and Zarpa.
But by all means I wouldn't want you to stop cheering for that ship on my behalf.

I realize I didn't get to comment on Rhitta earlier, and this might be related to Escatrona(lol). If my memory serves me right, Rhitta is a figure in the arthurian legends....and he's a Giant.So you might be unto something with Escanor x Matrona.
However if we look at the axe it has a winged female figure, that can only be a Goddess since they're the ones who carry light wings, as seen with Elizabeth. So my theory about her is that she could be Escanor's own mother.She could have been a Goddess who was banished and became human, and perhaps that's how Escanor got his power Sunshine, because Rhitta was loved by the Sun maybe and he inherited the sun's power through her.
The other theory that I have is that Rhitta was loved by Escanor who is the Sun(Praise the Sun!). And she is related to his sin. Perhaps his pride indirectly lead to her death.
So either she's his mother or lover. If it's the latter Escanor x Rhitta could have happened.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

It's ok, we all have our favorite ship. I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible for Escanor x Matrona to happen, just that in the light of recent events it might not be the most likely scenario.I see Matrona staying with the kids and Zarpa.
But by all means I wouldn't want you to stop cheering for that ship on my behalf.

I realize I didn't get to comment on Rhitta earlier, and this might be related to Escatrona(lol). If my memory serves me right, Rhitta is a figure in the arthurian legends....and he's a Giant.So you might be unto something with Escanor x Matrona.
However if we look at the axe it has a winged female figure, that can only be a Goddess since they're the ones who carry light wings, as seen with Elizabeth. So my theory about her is that she could be Escanor's own mother.She could have been a Goddess who was banished and became human, and perhaps that's how Escanor got his power Sunshine, because Rhitta was loved by the Sun maybe and he inherited the sun's power through her.
The other theory that I have is that Rhitta was loved by Escanor who is the Sun(Praise the Sun!). And she is related to his sin. Perhaps his pride indirectly lead to her death.
So either she's his mother or lover. If it's the latter Escanor x Rhitta could have happened.

I just had a really dark moment thinking about Escanor's potential backstory... i feel like he probably killed his parents and everyone he cared about when he was little, because Sunshine was simply out of control. He does refer to it as a Curse, does he not? I would assume that Rhitta may have been either a goddess or a giant (The latter of which may have give him some backstory with Diane and Matrona) and she took care of him. Since Escanor's ability seems to be unique and a curse upon him, i would vary a guess that he is reffering to himself when he says a "loved by the sun" simply because his day form is way too prideful.
This is just a long shot... what if Rhitta is a giantess who happened to be friends with Matrona, but, after the whole escapade of her taking care of Escanor she left the clan? What if the mother of the two children that Matrona is currently taking care of are Rhitta's children and Matrona feels guilty because she forced her to leave the clan and it eventually led to her death?
I also feel like Escanor's first case of "Love" was probably with Merlin, as he seems not to know how to deal with it... however, if Rhitta did take care of him and he was at the giant's clan for a time... it would explain why he has a "feminist/Chivalrous" approach towards woman, because he cares about the woman in his life... but, not so much the men.

I've guessed that he and Diane would have a fairly good relationship together, probably being the best of buddies at night... of course they barely met each other considering he was locked up and what not.
Either way, back onto the topic of pairings...

I will definitely root twice as hard for this ship, for both of us, and i will secretly hope it happens. Evidence suggests that Escanor may have come into contact with Matrona before, with the scars and the axe's name and what not... design wise Escanor's day form and teh xe are also very large compared to a normal human, so that might also say something
The design on Rhitta with the goddess like figure may be a representation of Rhitta herself, but, it could be she was a hybrid between the two clans and Escanor knew about that

I was wondering about whether or not his sin would be linked to that name, but, then again... why would you call your Sacred Treasure something that links you to your past? In fact, Escanor spoke about Rhitta's name as if to imply he named it... but, then who named the other treasures? Did the sins? or did Escanor? or did someone else?
I'm going to keep an open mind about this guy, but, his backstory is going to be VERY interesting when it gets revealed, because his SIN is probably going to be a few things:

- He will be guilty of committing it (We need this to happen)
- The worst of the 7 (By far)
- He is the only one who cannot remember his sin (because he is not allowed to by a combined vote of Gowther and Merlin)
- and he is more than likely going to have been a very lonely person growing up, he may even have been tortured, punished, etc...
Nakaba could be very dark with Escanor's backstory, because his character allows that to happen...

 

[Pietro]

ban and jericho

 

[Rescorlian]

Most interesting is Gowther x Sladar

I don't get what is so attractive between Meliodas and Elizabeth... It's the most typical shonen love story. Plus Elizabeth's character is boring as hell, no depth at all, predictable...

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Sorry for the late reply.I saw your post but didn't get to reply to it immediately.

I just had a really dark moment thinking about Escanor's potential backstory... i feel like he probably killed his parents and everyone he cared about when he was little, because Sunshine was simply out of control. He does refer to it as a Curse, does he not? I would assume that Rhitta may have been either a goddess or a giant (The latter of which may have give him some backstory with Diane and Matrona) and she took care of him. Since Escanor's ability seems to be unique and a curse upon him, i would vary a guess that he is reffering to himself when he says a "loved by the sun" simply because his day form is way too prideful.
This is just a long shot... what if Rhitta is a giantess who happened to be friends with Matrona, but, after the whole escapade of her taking care of Escanor she left the clan? What if the mother of the two children that Matrona is currently taking care of are Rhitta's children and Matrona feels guilty because she forced her to leave the clan and it eventually led to her death?

No no. Most of the sins aren't guilty of their sin, and he seems to be more of a good guy than let's say Gowther who is a bit on the ambiguous side, due to him not feeling anything and being apathic.And even then he could be completely innocent because of that. But here's what I think.Escanor in his pride form could have failed at saving someone.Yeah I know it's crazy but maybe back then like you said he prolly didn't control his power that well.Actually he might not wanted to help that someone because his power would have burned him to a crisp.For the most part I think Escanor grew up as an orphan, or became one after his mother who could be Rhitta died.Proudscanor doesn't refer to it as a curse, only Nightscanor does.Proudscanor even questions whether it's a gift or a curse, and from what I can tell since he considers himself as the ultimate life form it makes sense that his day form would see it more like a gift, while his night and weak form sees it as a curse.
Rhitta in the legends is a male giant lol, but who knows? I prefer if it was a goddess, again because of the winged figure.

I've guessed that he and Diane would have a fairly good relationship together, probably being the best of buddies at night... of course they barely met each other considering he was locked up and what not.

Yeah and she fears him.I think among the sins Escanor wasn't always involved with them, so far we've seen him interact more with Mel and Merlin. So I think he didn't have a whole lot of interactions with Diane or King.

I will definitely root twice as hard for this ship, for both of us, and i will secretly hope it happens. Evidence suggests that Escanor may have come into contact with Matrona before, with the scars and the axe's name and what not... design wise Escanor's day form and teh xe are also very large compared to a normal human, so that might also say something
The design on Rhitta with the goddess like figure may be a representation of Rhitta herself, but, it could be she was a hybrid between the two clans and Escanor knew about that

I don't think the scars prove much, Dolor has a similar scar on his face.A scar is just a scar, it can't be used as evidence of Escanor injuring a giantess.There's plenty of characters who have them. And I doubt Escanor's Sunshine would just leave a simple scar. Plus Giants cannot regenerate, so during her multiple battles as a warrior we can expect Matrona receiving a bunch of scars from fighting mostly Giants, she did fight Dumblebas and Giants are bent on fighting. So I don't think her scar can be linked to Escanor.

I was wondering about whether or not his sin would be linked to that name, but, then again... why would you call your Sacred Treasure something that links you to your past? In fact, Escanor spoke about Rhitta's name as if to imply he named it... but, then who named the other treasures? Did the sins? or did Escanor? or did someone else?
I'm going to keep an open mind about this guy, but, his backstory is going to be VERY interesting when it gets revealed, because his SIN is probably going to be a few things:

- He will be guilty of committing it (We need this to happen)
- The worst of the 7 (By far)
- He is the only one who cannot remember his sin (because he is not allowed to by a combined vote of Gowther and Merlin)
- and he is more than likely going to have been a very lonely person growing up, he may even have been tortured, punished, etc...
Nakaba could be very dark with Escanor's backstory, because his character allows that to happen...

Again I can't see him as the evil one, but it prolly looked that he was prideful and his power is likely the cause.Plus he's not the villainous type, on the contrary.His night form looks almost too innocent, while his day form is simply proud.Among all the sins it's the one I don't necessarily see as one,having a bit of pride doesn't hurt.But he's certainly not evil, at least it seems that other than thinking he's the ultimate life form, he's a regular guy, and someone who can even be considered a gentleman.
That's a +1 in my book.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

Sorry for the late reply.I saw your post but didn't get to reply to it immediately.


No no. Most of the sins aren't guilty of their sin, and he seems to be more of a good guy than let's say Gowther who is a bit on the ambiguous side, due to him not feeling anything and being apathic.And even then he could be completely innocent because of that. But here's what I think.Escanor in his pride form could have failed at saving someone.Yeah I know it's crazy but maybe back then like you said he prolly didn't control his power that well.Actually he might not wanted to help that someone because his power would have burned him to a crisp.For the most part I think Escanor grew up as an orphan, or became one after his mother who could be Rhitta died.Proudscanor doesn't refer to it as a curse, only Nightscanor does.Proudscanor even questions whether it's a gift or a curse, and from what I can tell since he considers himself as the ultimate life form it makes sense that his day form would see it more like a gift, while his night and weak form sees it as a curse.
Rhitta in the legends is a male giant lol, but who knows? I prefer if it was a goddess, again because of the winged figure.


Yeah and she fears him.I think among the sins Escanor wasn't always involved with them, so far we've seen him interact more with Mel and Merlin. So I think he didn't have a whole lot of interactions with Diane or King.


I don't think the scars prove much, Dolor has a similar scar on his face.A scar is just a scar, it can't be used as evidence of Escanor injuring a giantess.There's plenty of characters who have them. And I doubt Escanor's Sunshine would just leave a simple scar. Plus Giants cannot regenerate, so during her multiple battles as a warrior we can expect Matrona receiving a bunch of scars from fighting mostly Giants, she did fight Dumblebas and Giants are bent on fighting. So I don't think her scar can be linked to Escanor.



Again I can't see him as the evil one, but it prolly looked that he was prideful and his power is likely the cause.Plus he's not the villainous type, on the contrary.His night form looks almost too innocent, while his day form is simply proud.Among all the sins it's the one I don't necessarily see as one,having a bit of pride doesn't hurt.But he's certainly not evil, at least it seems that other than thinking he's the ultimate life form, he's a regular guy, and someone who can even be considered a gentleman.
That's a +1 in my book.

Here's the thing... when i think about Escanor's character... i think about 1 thing: "Why did he leave Ban because it was turning Noon?"
I feel like Escanor having no control over his power is likely what happened when he was a child... however, i would actually prefer Escanor's character be guilty of his sin (Not the night one, but the day one).

I would assume he killed everyone close to him as a child and remained alone for a VERY long time... it could be that nobody interacted with him until the sins showed up?

It is true that Rhitta is a male giant... however, in Escanor's legend he is a child born from a witch to a giant... i feel like this is an interpretation on Nakaba's part for his potential romantic affiliations... or Escanor's mother was a witch (Maybe Merlin's master? and his father a giant)

As for the scars... it was a long shot XD

I truly think that at least 1 sin must be guilty of their sin and what would make it better is if it were the strongest one. I truly believe he is guilty, but, he regrets what he did... perhaps his sin was committed at noon and that is why he avoids people at that time, because he goes into a berserk like frenzy, or perhaps his true nature is revealed?

I've theorized that Escanor is actually two beings inhabiting the same body and as it stands, i'm leaning towards the night one being Escanor and the day one being the original user of Sunshine. I do actually have evidence to back this up:

- the massive personality shift
- the appearance (How he goes from human to miniature giant, he could fit in Gowther's armor)
- His Ideals/morals seem to change during the day
- His power (Obviously)
- His attitude towards everything

- and the most useful piece of info, when Mera pops his soul out it has two question marks above it... that's right, TWO! There was no need for Nakaba to make two there, so why did he unless that is a subtle hint that foreshadows more of Escanor's development and progression? I think he has someone living inside him, perhaps someone from 3000 years ago? Either way, he is ridiculously OP and it's almost like he is no longer human... however, the two entities would share a single mind, body and soul... so it may be that he is weaker in this body than the original one (If there is one)

I started theory crafting... oops, sorry!

 

[julymarte]

but shouldn't that be more fit for the escanor topic tho?

 

[overlordpringerx]

Diane and King and Margaret x Gilthunder are definitely the best.

 

[SpectrumRay16]

but shouldn't that be more fit for the escanor topic tho?

Yeah, it should probably move for over there XD

 

[Demonspeed]

With the recent chapters, I am starting to think that Escanor x Jericho could happen, is it just me?

It would be another odd pairing but she has always liked older men.

 

[Yakkun]

Firm Escalin shipper here. Also Gowther X Guila should still happen later for real. When he has that heart. This is pretty much end of series talk though.

Slader X Deathpierce would be interesting if only because I think they would go well together as a couple.

Before it was revealed that the Commandment is Gloxinia and actually a guy, I was shipping Dolor with the "unknown tentacle girl" but who knows, maybe they even have a homosexual romance going on. Wouldn't really surprise me.

That said, imo the best and also most tragic couple are Harlquin and Diane even though Ban X Elaine is a lot more elaborate. But Elaine doesn't do anythign for me as a character, so I am not exactly shipping that.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

With the recent chapters, I am starting to think that Escanor x Jericho could happen, is it just me?

It would be another odd pairing but she has always liked older men.

She also called him a stud so it wouldn't be surprising.So no it's not just you.

Other than Jericho I could also see Deldrey fawning over day Escanor, although I believe Arden x Deldrey is a real thing.

And a bara pairing that I'd very much like to see is Escanor x Slader.

 

[Yakkun]

She also called him a stud so it wouldn't be surprising.So no it's not just you.

Other than Jericho I could also see Deldrey fawning over day Escanor, although I believe Arden x Deldrey is a real thing.

And a bara pairing that I'd very much like to see is Escanor x Slader.

Yeah, Slader also seems to have a thing for burly men, as seen on-panel before. XD

 

[HereNThere]

Slader should get any man he wants. He deserves it.

 

[Escanorzoldyck]

Oh btw did anyone see this pic ?

i ship it

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Oh btw did anyone see this pic ?

Oh yeah that was posted by Rai on NF when the spoilers for that chapter came out.

Yep it's one of my favorite ships atm.

 

[LivewireToriko]

Oh btw did anyone see this pic ?

i ship it

Escanor must be imagining Merlin.

And Estarossa is imagining meliodas I guess?

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

And Estarossa is imagining meliodas I guess?

But that's incest.

Is this manga turning into a ******?It would also feature NTR according to your logic.

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

Hmm the fans didn't waste time, they're already writing fanfics about Escanor x Estarossa

Spoiler

This shit is funny as hell.
I especially liked the part with the baby Escanor and the other versions of him.

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OMG

Spoiler

Why am I suddenly imagining Estarossa having the same voice as Zarbon from TFS' Dragon ball Z abridged?

Spoiler: Zarbon

 

[Notice me Escanor senpai]

@Monotone Madness Here's a little something for you: