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Even at young age, Smoker and Hina entered the marines and were immediately given the position as captains thanks to their DF abilities.
Actually, they have been given the position of captain after a very short (relatively) period of time after getting into the Marines because of their powers.. But Smoker's atitude kept him from ranking up, while Hina was just fine..
 

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Well recently Smoker has been trying to rise up in the ranks. Whoever did that databook translation on NarutoForums translated a line on Smoker which seemed to indicate that Smoker now actually wants the promotions. I'd imagine that, even though he can disobey the marines and chase Luffy to the end's of the earth, he'll only get so far doing things this way. That said, there's little evidence in the manga itself to support this other than the last shot of him which addressed him with the new title of commodore (I think...)

I hope Smoker becomes a Vice Admiral or even Admiral candidate if Kizaru, Aokoji or Akainu are defeated.
 

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The qualification is still unknown, hard to speculate other than all 3 marines seem to be physically quite powerful. If the logia admiral theory goes through it won't be a qualification, but rather logia users tend to be considerably more powerful than other fruit users. Their elements also have less weaknesses or mortal enemies so it would be a lot harder for an admiral to be taken out, given only one person could be their enemy by coincidence, the odds are not in favor of them losing, so in a way, having 3 admirals as logia users may even make them the strongest admirals ever in the marines.

Does this make Sengoku weak? Of course not. During the meeting between Whitebeard and Shanks, Whitebeard does mention Garp and Sengoku's name while reminiscing about the supposed 'old days' on the sea. If Sengoku wasn't that strong, or at least didn't have a reputation, why would one of the strongest pirates of the past and present mention his name along side Garp and Roger himself? Obviously Sengoku had quite a reputation, he must've been a pretty tough opponent too. While age might have caught up with him, it's possible that Sengoku still has a bit of strength left in him.
 

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sengoku does not look old though
 

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which one is Sengoku when he was an Admiral?

admiral name is taken by these 3 animal (blue pheasant, yellow monkey and red dog)...

aokiji - blue pheasant (real name KUZAN)

kizaru - yellow monkey (real name BORSALINO)

akainu - red dog (real name SAKAZUKI)


so, sengoku must be one of them before he is fleet admiral... which one was him??



ps: please merge if there's same thread...
 

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Re: which one is Sengoku when he was an Admiral?

admiral name is taken by these 3 animal (blue pheasant, yellow monkey and red dog)...

aokiji - blue pheasant (real name KUZAN)

kizaru - yellow monkey (real name BORSALINO)

akainu - red dog (real name SAKAZUKI)


so, sengoku must be one of them before he is fleet admiral... which one was him??



ps: please merge if there's same thread...
Who was the Pirate hunter and black leged Sanji, before Zorro and Sanj joined luffys crew?
 

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those arent marine titles.. in an organization the position has to be filled.
 

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Re: which one is Sengoku when he was an Admiral?

Who was the Pirate hunter and black leged Sanji, before Zorro and Sanj joined luffys crew?
You're being a bit bull-headed about this. It's not so illogical to assume that the "Blue Pheasant", "Yellow Monkey", and "Red Dog" epithets are tied to the post of admiral, and not given based on the person currently holding the post.

To answer the question, it seems that Sengoku has been called Sengoku since he became an Admiral at least, so I guess that the epithets are either given to you when you become an admiral, or you come up with your own. Either way, they appear to vary by each admiral.
 

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smoker is +- on admiral level but rank kaptain
 

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smoker is +- on admiral level but rank kaptain
It's true that Smoker said that his attitude makes the World Government keep his rank down (though he's a commodore now, not a captain), but admiral might be pushing it a bit. We've seen a bit of what Aokiji and Kizaru are capable of, and I don't think that Smoker could match that, at least, not yet. Perhaps by the end of the story Smoker will be an actual admiral, or at least an admiral-level fighter, but as of now, that seems to be overestimating him a bit. I would say that Smoker could be called roughly equal to a vice-admiral, which is still extremely strong. Remember, vice-admirals are the ones who deal with Buster Calls, and the ones we've seen so far have seemed pretty strong.

And here's a helpful reference guide to the Marine hierarchy.
 

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i think near the end of one piece, that the world goverment is actually gone, the marines still are there.

and that koby is admiral, and smoker replaced goatman

also im afraid that koby will eat a Devil fruit soon.
 

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there is noargument about the high officers strength, esspecially the admirals. its a must in order to be a true force and not just a title.
but about how they get that strength i have a theory:
remember that balackbeard was looking for that speciphic fruit,and he knew what it was acording to its shape?its kind of strange the cp9 members didnt know what they will get but still...
the WG must have a supply of DV to give to allready strong and loyal officers. i guess its posible they keep the logia ones for high officers.
 
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