Discussion General observations about techniques

[TheLastMartian]

High rankers are generally high rankers when they are dangerous aka able to kill others without much trouble, their tankyness does not matter as much as their ability to kill others.

There are different levels of techniques.

Regular techniques - not that special or hard to learn, probably anyone can learn with enough time. Something like reverse flow control, blasting people with baangs of shinso. While maybe the quality of the shinso might be different the technique itself is basic.

(name)-style technique - Something unique to the character that usually also uses the characters shinso quality. We have not even really seen bam copy these except for endless sky which was probably taught to him instead of simply copied.

Lethal moves - A technique that can kill easily. We have only really seen rankers do these and on top of that it seems to be a top level move of some rankers and a serious move of some high / advanced rankers.

Fatal moves - very powerful attacks that take a lot of shinso / stamina out of the user. The strongest possible attack of most high rankers.

transcendental moves - stuff that very few people in the tower can accomplish and are extremely powerful. I feel like normal high rankers could possibly hurt irregulars using these techniques but this is not really confirmed in any way. It seems only the most powerful characters in the tower can do moves like these.

Unnamed advanced techniques - Things like teleportation. Not much info on these.

Spells - Not shinso based.

These technique naming styles I noticed seem to have started (full time) during / after the Bam v Zahard fight.

 

[hblock]

I agree more or less.

Not anyone can learn regular techniques however. The ability to use the bang or even manipulate shinsu is rare, those who can use reverse flow control are even rarer and you need to be really talented to use both normal and reverse flow control at the same time.

Also the mastery of the same skill varies between individuals, the blue oar used by Baam in the 20th floor as an example is lacking in both skill and power, not just power alone compared to Love.

 

[TheLastMartian]

I agree more or less.

Not anyone can learn regular techniques however. The ability to use the bang or even manipulate shinsu is rare, those who can use reverse flow control are even rarer and you need to be really talented to use both normal and reverse flow control at the same time.

Also the mastery of the same skill varies between individuals, the blue oar used by Baam in the 20th floor as an example is lacking in both skill and power, not just power alone compared to Love.

I think any ranker can learn reverse flow control as hinted by Quant in S1 that he studied it for a really long time to learn it.

We have seen that any random ranker is better at shinso control than any regular we have seen.

 

[hblock]

I think any ranker can learn reverse flow control as hinted by Quant in S1 that he studied it for a really long time to learn it.

We have seen that any random ranker is better at shinso control than any regular we have seen.

My bad, I agree then. I thought you were talking about all tower residents.

 

[TheLastMartian]

My bad, I agree then. I thought you were talking about all tower residents.

One thing I always wonder is if all the tower residents who have potential to control shinso are selected as regulars or if there are tower residents on some floors that were born and always lived on the floor who are as strong as rankers (something we have not seen yet but might still be possible).

EDIT: Maybe Hell Joe is an example of the above but he is kinda an exception.

 

[Demonspeed]

Using Shinsoo isn't rare, especially when you know your Attributes. It's manipulating in various ways like Wave Controllers that's rare. People can make Baangs of Shinsoo fitting them easily but manipulating pure Shinsoo and using it in various ways is different.

 

[TheLastMartian]

Using Shinsoo isn't rare, especially when you know your Attributes. It's manipulating in various ways like Wave Controllers that's rare. People can make Baangs of Shinsoo fitting them easily but manipulating pure Shinsoo and using it in various ways is different.

I'm not saying it's rare but there are residents on all floors that are born and restricted to their floor until selected by Headon. I wonder if any of them are ranker level.

 

[hblock]

Using Shinsoo isn't rare

Taking all the tower residents as a whole, controlling shinsu is rare. From a regular's perspective and above, it's very common.

especially when you know your Attributes

Edahn said something like "Shinsu controlled by few special people contains special qualities". Therefore, most regulars don't have any shape or quality suiting their attributes.

I'm not saying it's rare but there are residents on all floors that are born and restricted to their floor until selected by Headon. I wonder if any of them are ranker level.

I think SIU said something like regulars stand on a whole another level compared to normal residents, be it physically or mentally. Normal residents have a very short lifespan as well in comparison.