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So...yeah. Power level discussion thread. Not just the Strawhats, not just the Yonkou, everyone's strength can be discussed and measured in comparison to one another. Want to argue Vergo's strength in comparison to Garp's? Bring it here. Someone want to argue Shirohoshi's strength in comparison to Vivi's? Bring it here. Think Chopper is the strongest crew member and you have the proof to back it up? Bring it here.

I made this thread so we don't have to keep going off topic in the regular chapter thread as every once and again, a power level argument will break out. So here we are. I checked to see if there was already a thread on this, but I didn't see one. If there was one and I missed it, mods please nuke this topic.

Also, people, please try to keep this civil.
 

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Sooo... Only reason for Sanji to seem like being under Vergo in terms of power was because his body gotten quite damaged before fight and it was first arc in New World so Oda could not show Sanji going all out as it would be required to go and KO Vergo.

Beside that I can see parallels to near start part of One Piece when Sanji lost to Gin mostly because of damage that was inflicted by "Pearl" from Don Kriegs crew.
Here Sanji was quite damaged because of Nami getting almost killed by Cesar Crown while being in Sanjis body.

So as "power level" of Sanji- he is equal of Vergo or at least at equal of Smoker who wasnt far weaker than Vergo. Zoro is at level of some veteran Vice Admirals like Onigumo or Dobreman and Luffy is around Doflamingos level so stronger than most if not all Vice Admirals but still a quite a bit inferior to Admirals and at least two steps behind Emperors.

Oh and Law is shown as one of two main Luffys rivals and he was quite a bit stronger than Smoker. Going with that logic I would put Zoro at very very close "level" as Luffy and Law thus he is also stronger than Smoker in my opinion and Sanji I would say is around same or maybe even a small bit better than Smoker(yea I know that ya people will not like to hear that but thats my opinion for now).

Beside that we all know that Strawhats are able to defeat even stronger enemies then themselves while near to death situations and grow during fights.

First time I expect real fight to death will be against Kaido the Beast- he is person that cant be reasoned with as Law said also Law states as fact that Kaido is able to wipe out Doflamingo- Doflamingo who was sweating and not laughing at all when he thought of having Kaido as enemy.

The Beast also killed whole crew of Moria and gave him emotional scars for entire life so I do expect that after Dressrosa end when we will get to see A LOT of what Strawhats are capable now.. we will get to see our crew fighting serious battles for lives as 2 years of training might be enough to survive most of what New World will throw at them but even those 2 years are not enough to give them safety by any means.

So I would say that maybe we can discuss here more of rankings between characters than their actuall combat power- we seen most from Luffy and we know he is shaping up to be real beast, a big name even in New World but we seen close to nothing when it comes to others. Especially Zoro.
 

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So...yeah. Power level discussion thread. Not just the Strawhats, not just the Yonkou, everyone's strength can be discussed and measured in comparison to one another. Want to argue Vergo's strength in comparison to Garp's? Bring it here. Someone want to argue Shirohoshi's strength in comparison to Vivi's? Bring it here. Think Chopper is the strongest crew member and you have the proof to back it up? Bring it here.

I made this thread so we don't have to keep going off topic in the regular chapter thread as every once and again, a power level argument will break out. So here we are. I checked to see if there was already a thread on this, but I didn't see one. If there was one and I missed it, mods please nuke this topic.

Also, people, please try to keep this civil.
"if you think choper is the strongest strawhat and got proof to back it up, bring it here"
you have the best way of teling people that they can share any opinion here, regardless of what the majority thinks ^^
 

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"if you think choper is the strongest strawhat and got proof to back it up, bring it here"
you have the best way of teling people that they can share any opinion here, regardless of what the majority thinks ^^
To be honest I think that its possible for Monster Chopper to by physically strongest out all of Strawhats- for few minutes but still:verily
 

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My view on the power levels in OP: Pirate King Lvl: - Gol D Roger/Young Whitebeard/Luffy(Series Finale)/Blackbeard(at the end of the series)/Dragon/World Government Boss(???)
Yonko Lvl: - Shanks/Kaido/Old Whitebeard/Blackbeard(Current Lvl)/Akainu/Young Garp/Zoro(Series Finale)/Kid(Series Finale)
Admiral Lvl: - Big Mom/Ao Kiji/Kizaru/Fujitora/Young Sengoku/Garp(Old)/Young Raleigh/Mihawk/Blackbeard(At the end of the Marineford Arc)/Shiliew(Series Finale)/Whitebeard(old, sick & stabbed by Squard)/Sabo(Series Finale)/Law(Series Finale)/Smoker(Finale)
1st Mate Lvl: - Old Raleigh/Marco/Jack/Ben Beckman/Old Sengoku/Sabo(Current)/Sanji(Series Finale)/Drake(Series Finale)/Hawkins(Series Finale)/Killer(Series Finale)
2nd Mate Lvl: - Doflamingo/Luffy(current)/Yassop/Usopp(Finale)/Jozu/Magellan/ Sabo(without fruit)/Hancock/Young Don Chinjao/Blackbeard(That defeated Ace)
3rd Mate Lvl: - Zoro(Current/Law(current)/Kid(current)/Cracker/Jinbe/Ace
4th Mate Lvl: - Smoker/Vergo/Hawkins/Drake/Urouge
5th Mate Lvl: - Sanji(current)/Old Don Chinjao/Capone
 
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Here's what I got.

1st: Yonkou/Admirals/Kuzan/Akainu

2nd: Warlords/Shiki/Dragon/Sabo/Yonkou Commanders

3rd: Supernovas/Cabbage/Barto/Don Chinjao/DD Family

4th:Everyone Else.
 

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Hey guys

I was wondering about Moriah. It was said that he could fight Kaido in the past, so my question is why did he get so weak that he was eliminated from the 7 warlords? Is it because he didn't fight himself after losing the first time. If that is why then how did his power drop so quickly in just a few years.
 

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Hey guys

I was wondering about Moriah. It was said that he could fight Kaido in the past, so my question is why did he get so weak that he was eliminated from the 7 warlords? Is it because he didn't fight himself after losing the first time. If that is why then how did his power drop so quickly in just a few years.
Pretty much. It's implied that he was "broken" after Kaido wiped out his crew, so he began to rely on creating zombies and neglecting his own strength. We don't really know when this happened, so it could have actually been decades when they fought and decades of decay in Moriah's capabilities.
 

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While so far we have not seem anything really impressing from her, I still think Big Mon (individually) has the potential to match Kaidou.
That is assuming, as is especulated, that her DF year taking ability has certain triggers, because if she could just use it on anyone she would probally rule the world. Heck, if as seen fear is the trigger, her and perona working together would be invincible.

Not gonna lie, I know he has the match-up, but Brook so far looking stronger than Sanji.

I also think that by now Blackbeard is the strongest character in the series in raw power.
Sure his determination is weak and he is cowardly, meaning he could probally be defeated by any weaker (but close leveled) oponnet who had more tenacity than him, but having Whitebeard´s power (who with this power alone was equal to Roger and "The Strongest man in the world")+ Yami´s power + A resistant body (this guy took WB bisento and not only survived, but was ready to take on Shanks right after) + having the ability to scar Shanks (even if on their younger years), I can´t see anyone, even final luffy, comming close to his raw power (remember, shitty determination).

He is also an expert at lying low and building his forces, so that would be why he hasn´t made any significant moves by now.
 

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While so far we have not seem anything really impressing from her, I still think Big Mon (individually) has the potential to match Kaidou.
That is assuming, as is especulated, that her DF year taking ability has certain triggers, because if she could just use it on anyone she would probally rule the world. Heck, if as seen fear is the trigger, her and perona working together would be invincible.

Not gonna lie, I know he has the match-up, but Brook so far looking stronger than Sanji.

I also think that by now Blackbeard is the strongest character in the series in raw power.
Sure his determination is weak and he is cowardly, meaning he could probally be defeated by any weaker (but close leveled) oponnet who had more tenacity than him, but having Whitebeard´s power (who with this power alone was equal to Roger and "The Strongest man in the world")+ Yami´s power + A resistant body (this guy took WB bisento and not only survived, but was ready to take on Shanks right after) + having the ability to scar Shanks (even if on their younger years), I can´t see anyone, even final luffy, comming close to his raw power (remember, shitty determination).

He is also an expert at lying low and building his forces, so that would be why he hasn´t made any significant moves by now.
You are making very heavy points regarding these changes of scales thanks to involve Yonko on the matter, finally.

I think Lin Lin is the weakest Yonko, and a counter-apart of Hancock. Their abilty works in the same terms, but with fear and worship as differences. So, for Kaidou or Shanks, such things as feelings in a battle will not appear as obstacles to perform their best.

The case of Sanji is special, specially because of Jinbe. To me, in the very moment of him joining the crew, the Monster Trio acknowledgement will disappear. Sanji is obviously weaker than Jinbe and by now, Zoro points to be the best of the world. Things will go smoothly on pairs... anyways, he's got Haki and for that, still is stronger than Brook, but yeah, Brook is a mini-Aokiji to my standarts and deserves a higher bounty.

I agreed with Teach as the strongest.
The main problem of Teach may arise on his childhood issues, when such things as a weak determination would probably come to storm his present, it's just a matter of fact that he had a troubled growth by his photo given in a SBS by Oda. Compared with Luffy, when those things lack in his memories thanks to Ace, Sabo and Dadan.
Anyways, i agreed mostly because of his unique skill to steal Devil Fruits. That trait is what it would make him the antagonist of One Piece. He only has to fight strong opponents and outnumber him in order to kill it. Candidates for that are Dragon, Marco, Jozu, Enel, Kaidou & crew, and even Admirals... only Oda can increase the hype, but the foreshadowing present by now, helps a lot!!
 
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