Fantasy God Serena vs Dimaria Yesta

[Demon Hunter]

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Dimaria doesn't like God Serena's clown nature so she wants to teach him a lesson.

Restrictions: none

 

[Ramen]

If you believe time-stop works, Dimaria one-shots.

If it doesn't, GS stomps.

Don't see why time-stop wouldn't work though.

 

[Tirl]

If ts works - Dimaria
If doesnt - Dimaria

 

[kian]

All comes down to if timestop works.

works then she wins, if not then she loses

 

[Hexbend]

Time stop gg

 

[Ronin31]

Spriggans, except August, Eileen and perhaps Rakheid, seems to have same MP level and their hax power work on each other : Dimaria could Time-Stop Brandish. Brandish could reduce Dimaria's size…. The only way to win Dimaria's hax is to be above MP level's power, like Natsu when rises to END, or external boost like Eileen's enchant, or blitzkrieg her in the laptime she "clac" her jaws to time stop.

Dimaria for the win here, even if Serena has far raw damage power.

 

[grey matter]

Dimaria's timestop won't work on Serena, if he's Gildarts tier.
Serena stomps

 

[kenedyfake]

these guys read the manga? Serena is treated like common Spriggan level ...
He has no answers to deal with time stop.

 

[grey matter]

these guys read the manga? Serena is treated like common Spriggan level ...
He has no answers to deal with time stop.

Yes, you're not the only person to read the manga

Serena obviously had special hype. He no diff'd Jura (possibly a Makarov level mage) and 3 mages tiers above him, in his base, and then in his DS form. He briefly overwhelmed team Natsu and tussled with Gildarts with a fraction of his powers. Gildarts hyped Serena to be a serious challenge to him when he was alive.

 

[Biri Biri]

these guys read the manga? Serena is treated like common Spriggan level ...
He has no answers to deal with time stop.

You obviously hadn't been around.

Otherwise, you should know better than to underestimate @grey matter love for Serena.

Serena is held in reaaaaally high regard by him.

 

[Sevently]

Dimaria's timestop won't work on Serena, if he's Gildarts tier.
Serena stomps

This.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

God Serena to me is just an ordinary Spiriggan. The only ones that were set apart from them are August and Irene. So I don't see why the time stop shouldn't work. I'll take Gildarts words as no different to Erza hyping Sting in GMG. The only way Serena win is if he has enough durability to tank Dimaria's barrage of magical attacks during TS.

 

[grey matter]

You obviously hadn't been around.

Otherwise, you should know better than to underestimate @grey matter love for Serena.

Serena is held in reaaaaally high regard by him.

Yeah he's one of my all time favs. But I think I'm pretty reasonable at where I rank him tho, based on portrayal. I rank him just below Gildarts

 

[Jko]

Serena dies instantaneously.

 

[FeatherineAugustusAurora]

Dimaria’s hax would definitely work against god serena. August, Irene and Larcade are the only ones cut above the rest in terms of MP, and Gildarts’ MP is just on par with the regular spriggans, he was no where near August’s level.

And since GS and Mari are of equal MP, then time stop would definitely work so Dimaria no diffs.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 30, 2020, Original Post Date: Aug 30, 2020 ---

Yeah he's one of my all time favs. But I think I'm pretty reasonable at where I rank him tho, based on portrayal. I rank him just below Gildarts

Tho you’re being unreasonable for saying that GS has higher MP than Dimaria simply because he was on par with Gildarts, and what makes you think that Gildarts’ MP is superior to a normal spriggan? At best he would be on par with them.

Maybe as die hard fan of GS you just can’t accept the fact that he would get no diffed by someone like Dimaria. But mind you, Dimaria and Brandish are actually spammed in shounen threads more than Acnologia.

 

[grey matter]

Tho you’re being unreasonable for saying that GS has higher MP than Dimaria simply because he was on par with Gildarts, and what makes you think that Gildarts’ MP is superior to a normal spriggan? At best he would be on par with them.

Maybe as die hard fan of GS you just can’t accept the fact that he would get no diffed by someone like Dimaria. But mind you, Dimaria and Brandish are actually spammed in shounen threads more than Acnologia.

Top tiers of FT >> average Spriggan. In all stats. Including MP. There are several instances which demonstrate this:
- Gildarts was matching freaking August in physical combat, Obviously August overwhelmed but he held his own. If it were not for August's copy hax, Gildarts would've given him a mid diff. August would no diff average Spriggans like Dimaria and Brandish, in all departments including MP. Scaling Gildarts to 70% August in stats, clearly Gildarts >> average Spriggan in all stats including MP. This is also self evident, from portrayal.
- when Jellol powered up, Neinhart was shocked by his MP, which extended cities length, and without end. Clearly Jellol's MP >> Neinhart's
- Laxus one shotted Wahl, a Spriggan who has relatively balanced stats (i.e not like Neinhart or Brandish who's high MP/hax and fodder in other stats) the moment Laxus overcame Wahl's lightning immunity. Laxus was hyped to one shot, or at least severely injure, Ajeel, another Spriggan who's relatively balanced in stats. Logic dictates that Laxus' MP >> average Spriggan's MP.
- Natsu powered out of Dimaria's hax in his partial END form. We can try to scale where partial END would be, from his performance against darkness Gray (which was more demonized, i.e superior, to the one that overpowered timestop and stomped her), and how his angry punch was blocked by Erza (with injuries of course). He would be somewhere around Laxus level, at most Gildarts level. This level was able to overpower Dimaria's timestop

I don't care where they are spammed (not sure what you mean here), why is that relevant here? You've got no argument other than making baseless claims and labelling me biased. At least try to substantiate/rationalize your points. You're claiming here that characters who got roflstomped by FT top tiers are above them in MP, based on nothing but headcanon. You may argue it's same in my case, but at least I can rationalize it

 

[Orphan Prince]

Ageseal Works; God Serena gets God Serena'd

If it doesn't for some reason; Dimaria gets stomped.

If Dimaria activates Chronos, mid-high diff for Serena due to him having Dragon Slaying Magic rather than God Slaying Magic. But if he gets third origin like Chelia. it's a lolstomp.

I love Mari, but Serena stomps her, low diff, she only has like, two or three spells.

God Serena to me is a high-tier Spriggan while Dimaria is a mid-tier Spriggan.

 

[FireIce]

Dimaria clicks her teeth and slices his head off.

God Serena doesn't have more magic power than the other Spriggans, only August/Irene/Larcade/Enchanted Neinhart are portrayed as such.

If Âge Seal wasn't considered in this match, then God Serena folds her worse than he did to Gajeel.

 

[grey matter]

Dimaria clicks her teeth and slices his head off.

God Serena doesn't have more magic power than the other Spriggans, only August/Irene/Larcade/Enchanted Neinhart are portrayed as such.

If Âge Seal wasn't considered in this match, then God Serena folds her worse than he did to Gajeel.

I would argue that God Serena has similar portrayal as well. I mean, portrayal of being considerably ahead of the "average" Spriggan.

In x792, he was implied to be relative to Gildarts.

In the same arc, we saw that Neinhart shat his pants at Jellal powering up and flexing his MP. This was before he even cast an offensive spell.
Now that begs the question. Would Neinhart be scared if he sense a magic weaker or comparable to his own MP? I would say no.

There is also portrayal of Wahl sensing Laxus as a monster who is the biggest threat from FT (at that time), and this was when he was nerfed by the magic barrier particles.

Point being, we have got two characters - Laxus and Jellal, who are below Gildarts in portrayal, portrayed to be far superior to the "average Spriggan" in all stats across the board, including magic power.

Then we also have partial END having enough magic (or curse??) power to bypass Dimaria's hax and no diff her.
A stronger (more demonized) partial END ended up stalemating with "darkness" Gray. Whether you consider God Serena and Gildarts below these two is upto you, but IMO they are still stronger.

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Regarding portrayal of GS unrelated to scaling from other characters, there is still things to be considered.
For starters, the hype of the Spriggans came from GS to begin with, from the other GOI comparing them to GS.

It was later revealed that the GOI had no idea at how strong GS was, and was no diff'd by him in his base. Then GS revealed that he's even stronger, and further powered up (breaking himself free from a hax btw) revealing himself to be a DS.
Key takeaways from this feat:
- GOI had no idea how strong GS was, turns out that he was tiers stronger than they thought he was. Bringing to question the validity of that comparision to begin with.
- To put in perspective how impressive BASE God Serena no diff'ing GOI + Jura was, consider this.
Erza got low-mid diff'd by Kyouka + Azuma + Ikaruga. The weakest of GS's opponent (Jura) was stronger than the strongest of the trio that Erza faced (Kyouka). Yeah, she was "injured", but the result was so overwhelming that at best that low diff would've turned into a high diff, Erza still loses.



In the current spinoff, he no diff'd current Gajeel, who is a lot stronger than x792 Gajeel.
Obviously there is a good chance that GS powered up since x792 as well (I do believe it to be the case). But still, the fact that he casually destroyed someone who is at least comparable to current LFD Natsu does speak for itself.
In contrast, x792 Gajeel was doing fine against Bradman (their stats were comparable and Gajeel was slowly going down only to bane particle hax).

 

[FireIce]

I would argue that God Serena has similar portrayal as well. I mean, portrayal of being considerably ahead of the "average" Spriggan.

In x792, he was implied to be relative to Gildarts.

In the same arc, we saw that Neinhart shat his pants at Jellal powering up and flexing his MP. This was before he even cast an offensive spell.
Now that begs the question. Would Neinhart be scared if he sense a magic weaker or comparable to his own MP? I would say no.

There is also portrayal of Wahl sensing Laxus as a monster who is the biggest threat from FT (at that time), and this was when he was nerfed by the magic barrier particles.

Point being, we have got two characters - Laxus and Jellal, who are below Gildarts in portrayal, portrayed to be far superior to the "average Spriggan" in all stats across the board, including magic power.

Then we also have partial END having enough magic (or curse??) power to bypass Dimaria's hax and no diff her.
A stronger (more demonized) partial END ended up stalemating with "darkness" Gray. Whether you consider God Serena and Gildarts below these two is upto you, but IMO they are still stronger.

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Regarding portrayal of GS unrelated to scaling from other characters, there is still things to be considered.
For starters, the hype of the Spriggans came from GS to begin with, from the other GOI comparing them to GS.

It was later revealed that the GOI had no idea at how strong GS was, and was no diff'd by him in his base. Then GS revealed that he's even stronger, and further powered up (breaking himself free from a hax btw) revealing himself to be a DS.
Key takeaways from this feat:
- GOI had no idea how strong GS was, turns out that he was tiers stronger than they thought he was. Bringing to question the validity of that comparision to begin with.
- To put in perspective how impressive BASE God Serena no diff'ing GOI + Jura was, consider this.
Erza got low-mid diff'd by Kyouka + Azuma + Ikaruga. The weakest of GS's opponent (Jura) was stronger than the strongest of the trio that Erza faced (Kyouka). Yeah, she was "injured", but the result was so overwhelming that at best that low diff would've turned into a high diff, Erza still loses.



In the current spinoff, he no diff'd current Gajeel, who is a lot stronger than x792 Gajeel.
Obviously there is a good chance that GS powered up since x792 as well (I do believe it to be the case). But still, the fact that he casually destroyed someone who is at least comparable to current LFD Natsu does speak for itself.
In contrast, x792 Gajeel was doing fine against Bradman (their stats were comparable and Gajeel was slowly going down only to bane particle hax).

I like your arguments. I do believe God Serena is much stronger than any Spriggan not named August or Irene. But is he above them in mere magic power? It is possible and very likely but I'm waiting for new feats from him to confirm it.