So what's gonna happen is Goku's gonna land a lot of punches and Superman will try to connect but Goku will dodge it and Goku will try to connect a few more N block/dodge superman again over and over
Gotenks travels the world around 9 times in a minute, thats so far below Lightspeed it isnt' even funny.
So what if he uses ki, everybody in DBZ uses ki and not all of them shake the planet. In comics they use cosmic energy to increase their strength, they don't shake a planet just a side effect of them increasing their strength, so whats ur point? And Superman uses solar energy, right? It's more comparable to Hulk who is destroying eastern seabourg just by mere footsteps.
He shakes the planet and then gets punched by Superman, he stays down. Shaking the planet is all well and good but it's not a durability feat, speed feat, strength feat etc.
These guys can raise pyramids just with their minds even b4 the saiyans arrived and they got many times stronger from there. And their physical strength is stronger. They just control their ki to their target, no point in destroying everything else around them. Remember when Piccolo lost control of his ki while levitating a pyramid. It shattered the pyramid and caused a massive earthquake. He was so pissed of losing control.
Remember when Goku had trouble with 40 tons and had to go Super Saiyan to lift it? The difference in pure strength isn't even fair. Don't even bring up strength when it comes to Superman.
What is it with Supes, 40 billion tons? If I remember correctly.
Hell Goku in SSJ 4 had trouble lifting a building.
Goku's energy stretches to other dimensions to be sensed that far, even Gohan felt it. just like the z figters didn't sense Vegeta's energy til he was nearby earth coz his energy is not strong enough to stretch that far. Perfect Cell's energy reaches Namek.
Yeah but King Kai can sense people really far away, AKA Goku, sensing people in DB really far away isn't anything special.
Maybe I'll give him credit on speed of attacking. Superman is below FTL speed within earth's atmosphere so he can dodge Supes attack and if goku moves too fast for him to see, he's in big trouble. Im pretty sure Goku's attacks will land tho since he has trouble dodging/ blocking slow characters. Goku hold's back too against weak characters.
And he'll hold back against Goku too. Because if he went full out he'd massacre Goku.
And Supe's speed in earth is 99% Light Speed.
The scan mentioned how he amplifies his speed many times over. Same concept as Kaioken X4, X20 and increases as they get stronger.
But will that put him at Supes level...?
The Z fighters would know if he was bluffing.Vegeta can destroy a planet at 20000 PL, Freiza destroyed planet Vegeta 10X gravity of earth. at PL 500,000. Cell's PL is around hundreds of millions. And the writer won't mention it if he didnt intend for Cell to have that power. TOAA is omnipotent he has no feats. DBZ is more of story logic and common sense.
Freiza started a chain reaction that blew up the planet. Thats not busting a planet.
Where was it stated that Cell's PL was in the Hundreds of Millions?
Naruto's writer stated that Kyuubi could destroy Mountains.
And until it's shown that someone has near Galaxy busting powers it's hyperbole. Because Hyping an enemy is a pretty normal thing for all Villains.
King Kai can sense and TRACE Goku who is moving at least 300X lightspeed with the spaceship. It's the same as when they sense them in a fight, weaker guys can't trace them, stronger one's can. That's why Vegeta can sense and trace Freiza's spaceship coz he's on a higher PL and Yamcha can only sense Freiza but cannot trace the movement of his ship. So if Kai can sense and trace Goku's ship and can't follow Goku's fight with Freiza then they are definitely moving faster than the ship, in short distances anyway.
My question is this how big is the DBZ verse, where does the 300x lightspeed number come from?
And what do long distance tire the DBZ characters for some reason? They should be able to stay at the same speed no matter what.
Next King Kai can sense where Goku is but can he see how quickly Goku is going? Theirs a big difference between seeing and sensing.
And then theirs the fact that Supes can't run out of energy. Goku can on the other hand...
Hunter/Prey #3: weathers ground zero of the supposed "million nukes" blast on Calaton.
This is far more powerful then a lot of things that Goku has. Goku is too slow to even hit Supes, but if he did Superman wouldn't notice.
Superman #181: Takes a punch from the magically created Bizarro creature which slams him clear through the Earth, in the ground through Metropolis, through the curst mantle and core and out through China. No injury or loss of consciousness. Smiles afterwards.
And I just checked the page with King Kai, their wasn't even sensing in their, all Kai did was talk to him in his mind. They were communicating thats all, nothing else. No sensing was in their.
Superman Prime is very strong though, the one that takes a big bang to the face
IMO only Vegitto or the Non-Canon SSJ4 can hurt him.
NO, Prime was retardly powerful.
It's Supe that has to find a way to keep up with Goku's speed in combat.
