Conditional Gray Fullbuster vs. Wendy Marvell

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Quite a remarkable feat to defeat a child who was holding back against you bcs he had a crush and against who you were the perfect counter.

This is really a trash feat to get low-diffed by someone who was literally countering all of your magic + who was in a good place to finish you quickly.
Hey said that he was getting serious, while he had a crush, he could not afford to lose either if it meant getting a date, so he used force at the right amount, she can't counter all of his magic, otherwise she would have freed Lily from the threads, or Irene would not need to separate.
 

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Haku whould neg-diff Team Rocket,let alone losing to Skullion.

What feats has Gray to put her above Wendy where defeated a Top-Tier?
Haku would nodiff Skullion, Madmole and Kyriad because of hax. Nothing else.

Gray always had better feats. Wendy defeating Haku because of the reasons I stated earlier won't make her top 3 strongest.
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Hey said that he was getting serious, while he had a crush, he could not afford to lose either if it meant getting a date, so he used force at the right amount, she can't counter all of his magic, otherwise she would have freed Lily from the threads, or Irene would not need to separate.
He never said that. All he said is that he had to defeat her to go in a date with her. He wanted to turn her into a plushie, he couldn't because of her magic. He tried to overpower her with plushies, he couldn't because of Irene.

Haku couldn't defeat Wendy because she was the perfect counter, she was helped by Irene and he was holding back because he didn't wanted to win by hurting her.
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Anyway, this is the last time I'm arguing with y'all Wendy stans. Just going to let you at your dreams lol.

Gray would never be written to lose against Wendy, whether she has "better" feats or not.
 

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Haku would nodiff Skullion, Madmole and Kyriad because of hax. Nothing else.

Gray always had better feats. Wendy defeating Haku because of the reasons I stated earlier won't make her top 3 strongest.
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He never said that. All he said is that he had to defeat her to go in a date with her. He wanted to turn her into a plushie, he couldn't because of her magic. He tried to overpower her with plushies, he couldn't because of Irene.

Haku couldn't defeat Wendy because she was the perfect counter, she was helped by Irene and he was holding back because he didn't wanted to win by hurting her.
He did,

That is my point, that is because those are points where Wendy and Irene are consciously countering him, nothing about that is perfect, not like Slayer advantage which are passively unaffected by their elements.

And saying that her methods are not perfect would automatically discount any notion of being a stan, besides, going back and taking the anime into consideration, Wendy was powerful enough to match an attack from Loke who could defeat one of the Seven Kin which Gray even had trouble with, and Wendy managed to overpower Erza in Alvarez with her potential.
 
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He did,

That is my point, that is because those are points where Wendy and Irene are consciously countering him, nothing about that is perfect, not like Slayer advantage which are passively unaffected by their elements.
He said he should get a little serious but he didn't seemed to want to hurt her.
 

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He said he should get a little serious but he didn't seemed to want to hurt her.
that doesn't change he was getting serious, despite not wanting to hurt Wendy, he still used force, and using a punch would contradict that claim.

And saying that her methods are not perfect would automatically discount any notion of being a stan, besides, going back and taking the anime into consideration, Wendy was powerful enough to match an attack from Loke who could defeat one of the Seven Kin which Gray even had trouble with, and Wendy managed to overpower Erza in Alvarez with her potential.
 

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that doesn't change he was getting serious, despite not wanting to hurt Wendy, he still used force, and using a punch would contradict that claim.

And saying that her methods are not perfect would automatically discount any notion of being a stan, besides, going back and taking the anime into consideration, Wendy was powerful enough to match an attack from Loke who could defeat one of the Seven Kin which Gray even had trouble with, and Wendy managed to overpower Erza in Alvarez with her potential.
It does not change the fact he didn't hurt her.

Wtf Loke has to do here?

Are you talking about Wendy and Mest vs. Gray and Loke back in Tenrou Island, like almost a decade ago during S-Class Trial?
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He matched her punch. Nothing else.
 

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It does not change the fact he didn't hurt her.

Wtf Loke has to do here?

Are you talking about Wendy and Mest vs. Gray and Loke back in Tenrou Island, like almost a decade ago during S-Class Trial?
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He matched her punch. Nothing else.
it doesn't change that he used force which is actual physical effort, that, and the fact that Wendy helped defeat one of Tartaros' elite fighters who Gray and Natsu was struggling against as well before the former's powerup, and even overpowered Erza with her potential. yet he overpowered her punch.
 

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it doesn't change that he used force which is actual physical effort, that, and the fact that Wendy helped defeat one of Tartaros' elite fighters who Gray was struggling against as well before his powerup, and even overpowered Erza with her potential. yet he overpowered her punch.
It does not change that she wasn't hurt and he didn't hurt her throughout this fight.

Who's Tartaros elite fighter?
 

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It does not change that she wasn't hurt and he didn't hurt her throughout this fight.

Who's Tartaros elite fighter?
Not hurting or being injures =/= not using strength/force or effort to win.

correction, one of of Tartaros' Elite fighter"s"
Nine Demon Gates Ezel who has stronger attack and defense power than either Keith and Jackal.
 

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Not hurting or being injures =/= not using strength/force or effort to win.

correction, one of of Tartaros' Elite fighter"s"
Nine Demon Gates Ezel who has stronger attack and defense power than either Keith and Jackal.
Oh, Ezel... Gray defeated Silver, foderized Tempester and took down Mard Geer.
 

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Oh, Ezel... Gray defeated Silver, foderized Tempester and took down Mard Geer.
Silver intentionally lost to Gray, Gray only did that after getting a power up, and took down Mard after he was distracted and has slayer advantage over demons.
 

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Silver intentionally lost to Gray, Gray only did that after getting a power up, and took down Mard after he was distracted and has slayer advantage over demons.
Yes, just like Wendy had an advantage against Haku.
 

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Haku is not a full dragon, nor did he have air for Wendy to be immune to.
She was the perfect counter to his plushie hax, she had Irene helping her and he didn't wanted to hurt her.
 

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She was the perfect counter to his plushie hax, she had Irene helping her and he didn't wanted to hurt her.
She was not "perfect" as she was still hindered by Haku's magic, or could not counter them either in time or not at all, Irene helping her is not equivalent to slayer advantage, again not wanting to hurt her =/= not using force/strength.
 

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She was not "perfect" as she was still hindered by Haku's magic, or could not counter them either in time or not at all, Irene helping her is not equivalent to slayer advantage, again not wanting to hurt her =/= not using force/strength.
She still had help, could counter his magic and he was holding back because he liked her. Your delusions aren't changing canon.
 

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She still had help, could counter his magic and he was holding back because he liked her. Your delusions aren't changing canon.
Help is not the same as slayer advantage, Irene didn't really counter more like hijacked his magic, he stated he got serious, which doesn't conflict with his intention as long as he wins, that is definitely canon with sources posted, but whatever you believe.
 

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Help is not the same as slayer advantage, Irene didn't really counter more like hijacked his magic, he stated he got serious, which doesn't conflict with his intention as long as he wins, that is definitely canon with sources posted, but whatever you believe.
Same for you.
 

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your opinion is your own
 
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