Conditional Gray Fullbuster vs. Wendy Marvell

[Ronin31]

Wendy defeated a potential human selene tier character.

Too be fair most characters would lose against Haku because of his hex so they would need Wendy help to beat him

Wendy is the best antagonist against hax. Haku is all hax.
Wendy is not stronger than most, only the best hax fighter of the Guild.The only one who could face Haku's hax.

Natsu lost in a blink, same as Lucy. Is Wendy stronger than Natsu and Lucy who lost ?
Natsu, Grey, Lucy and Aquarius feared Spider Erza. Wendy erased her in blink. Is Wendy stronger than the teamor even Erza ?
Natsu's flames were powerless in front of Skullion's ashes. Wendy countered Ashes and permitted Natsu to strike him. Again, is Wendy > Natsu this moment ?

She is not the strongest in stats and might. She is the hax one, the support and the healer.

 

[Darklord#10]

He defeated Hakune on his own as well as Laxus' 3 teammates.

When did the raijun tribe ever matter? Hakune..... really bro? Elentear arc which is trash. Erza lost to yoko and beat her in the second round. Haku's not strong because of hax he's a dark dragon slayer knight because he's strong

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People have a hard time accepting that Wendy is that strong

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Wendy is the best antagonist against hax. Haku is all hax.
Wendy is not stronger than most, only the best hax fighter of the Guild.The only one who could face Haku's hax.

Natsu lost in a blink, same as Lucy. Is Wendy stronger than Natsu and Lucy who lost ?
Natsu, Grey, Lucy and Aquarius feared Spider Erza. Wendy erased her in blink. Is Wendy stronger than the teamor even Erza ?
Natsu's flames were powerless in front of Skullion's ashes. Wendy countered Ashes and permitted Natsu to strike him. Again, is Wendy > Natsu this moment ?

She is not the strongest in stats and might. She is the hax one, the support and the healer.

Yes Wendy is stronger than Lucy and comparable to fire dragon king natsu. Of course natsu's still overall stronger than Wendy

 

[Ratrace]

Wendy is the best antagonist against hax. Haku is all hax.
Wendy is not stronger than most, only the best hax fighter of the Guild.The only one who could face Haku's hax.

Natsu lost in a blink, same as Lucy. Is Wendy stronger than Natsu and Lucy who lost ?
Natsu, Grey, Lucy and Aquarius feared Spider Erza. Wendy erased her in blink. Is Wendy stronger than the teamor even Erza ?
Natsu's flames were powerless in front of Skullion's ashes. Wendy countered Ashes and permitted Natsu to strike him. Again, is Wendy > Natsu this moment ?

She is not the strongest in stats and might. She is the hax one, the support and the healer.

That is true what Haku mostly has is Hax and hype, his feats aren’t that great

 

[MyaHeart35]

I don’t believe Wendy is stronger than Lucy. She surpasses lucy in hax, but Lucy has more raw power and strength. Haku seems to be the weakest of the knights.
When miskai was talking about the only girls being stronger than her are Erza and Selene, Wendy wasn’t even the slightest mention or hinted at. If Wendy was close to her or Erza she could would have at least been somewhat mention. But miskai didn’t even care about Wendy strength.
Gray should be stronger than Wendy. He was stated by Hiro and in the story to be natsu’s equal/rival. He doesn’t have many feats right now maybe later in the story.
Sometimes y’all hype Wendy up to much. Not all BDSK are equal. And in the end she still needed Irene, just like her fight with me nebal Irene swooped in and saved her.
Lucy didn’t fight a dragon knight, however she oneshotted someone laxus and Erza wasn’t able to do, even though they’re stronger than her. Her gotfried spell is more powerful than base laxus, the one who no diff skullion and madmole combined. Kiria also seems to be the strongest of the diabolos trio based off feats. Lucy might have more magic power than Wendy but loses to her with hax.
Also Wendy would get destroyed by the other Bsdk. Suzaku would one shot her. Wendy might die just from 5 hours of Miskai damage. And easily get overpowered by Kirin.

 

[FireIce]

I don’t believe Wendy is stronger than Lucy. She surpasses lucy in hax, but Lucy has more raw power and strength. Haku seems to be the weakest of the knights.
When miskai was talking about the only girls being stronger than her are Erza and Selene, Wendy wasn’t even the slightest mention or hinted at. If Wendy was close to her or Erza she could would have at least been somewhat mention. But miskai didn’t even care about Wendy strength.
Gray should be stronger than Wendy. He was stated by Hiro and in the story to be natsu’s equal/rival. He doesn’t have many feats right now maybe later in the story.
Sometimes y’all hype Wendy up to much. Not all BDSK are equal. And in the end she still needed Irene, just like her fight with me nebal Irene swooped in and saved her.
Lucy didn’t fight a dragon knight, however she oneshotted someone laxus and Erza wasn’t able to do, even though they’re stronger than her. Her gotfried spell is more powerful than base laxus, the one who no diff skullion and madmole combined. Kiria also seems to be the strongest of the diabolos trio based off feats. Lucy might have more magic power than Wendy but loses to her with hax.
Also Wendy would get destroyed by the other Bsdk. Suzaku would one shot her. Wendy might die just from 5 hours of Miskai damage. And easily get overpowered by Kirin.

Exactly this. Misaki said that the only women stronger than her she's met are Selene and Erza. Why didn't she mention Wendy, who beat her supposed "equal"? Clearly the DDSK are nowhere near equal in strength.

But about the Lucy/Erza/Laxus part. I have to disagree. Lucy did oneshot Kiria with Gottfried. But Kiria was easily able to overpower her in combat and Lucy needed Laxus to shield her and remind her about friendship bonds. Otherwise she would've been killed.

Laxus and Erza both did better than Lucy against Kiria too. Laxus was basically low-diffing her. He oneshotted her without Red Lightning. Erza later fought on par with Laxus, forced him to use RL and stalemated him when she went all out. Erza would oneshot Kiria with Heaven's Wheel.

And I don't think Lucy would no diff Skullion and Madmole in a 1v1, let alone together. Heck, she would probably lose to either of them. Skullion can turn any of her attacks into ash while Madmole can no sell them until she falls out of exhaustion. But I understand why you believe Kiria is the strongest of the three.

 

[Darklord#10]

Wendy has feats, gray doesn't. But somehow gray's stronger cuz he's somehow natsu's equal. Gray will get skewered by suzaku's abyss art lmao. Can't even defeat skullion who got no diff'd by laxus

 

[FireIce]

Wendy has feats, gray doesn't. But somehow gray's stronger cuz he's somehow natsu's equal. Gray will get skewered by suzaku's abyss art lmao. Can't even defeat skullion who got no diff'd by laxus

Gray has feats but whatever.

You know that Wendy would get ripped apart by Suzaku's attack too? It damaged Natsu with FDK scales and he has far better dura than Wendy.

Laxus was always far stronger than Gray. Skullion vs Gray happened in the beginning of 100YQ. Don't you remember when Madmole beat Natsu. When Kiria beat Erza and proceeded to oneshot Lucy + Wendy? Lucy can beat a Skullion level opponent and Gray is much stronger than Lucy based on Elentir fights. He would wash Skullion in a fight. Heavy Knights GG.

 

[Darklord#10]

Gray has feats but whatever.

You know that Wendy would get ripped apart by Suzaku's attack too? It daaged Natsu with FDK scales and he has better dura than Wendy.

Laxus was always far stronger than Gray. Skullion vs Gray happened in the beginning of 100YQ. Don't you remember when Madmole beat Natsu. When Kiria beat Erza and proceeded to oneshot Lucy + Wendy? Lucy can beat a Skullion level opponent and Gray is much stronger than Lucy based on Elentir fights. He would wash Skullion in a fight. Heavy Knights GG.

Natsu beat madmolle in rematch. I don't see gray vs skullion rematch. Natsu only lost to madmolle because of motion sickness, once natsu got serious he cooked madmolle. Suzaku>=fire dragon king natsu>>DF Wendy=haku

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Gray has feats but whatever

Soloing rajin? Trash feats. Mira fought skullion and gray in one Arc. Gray gets folded by Wendy

 

[MyaHeart35]

Exactly this. Misaki said that the only women stronger than her she's met are Selene and Erza. Why didn't she mention Wendy, who beat her supposed "equal"? Clearly the DDSK are nowhere near equal in strength.

But about the Lucy/Erza/Laxus part. I have to disagree. Lucy did oneshot Kiria with Gottfried. But Kiria was easily able to overpower her in combat and Lucy needed Laxus to shield her and remind her about friendship bonds. Otherwise she would've been killed.

Laxus and Erza both did better than Lucy against Kiria too. Laxus was basically low-diffing her. He oneshotted her without Red Lightning. Erza later fought on par with Laxus, forced him to use RL and stalemated him when she went all out. Erza would oneshot Kiria with Heaven's Wheel.

And I don't think Lucy would no diff Skullion and Madmole in a 1v1, let alone together. Heck, she would probably lose to either of them. Skullion can turn any of her attacks into ash while Madmole can no sell them until she falls out of exhaustion. But I understand why you believe Kiria is the strongest of the three.

True but I’m mostly talking about the spell itself. Lucy could have oneshotted Kiria from the beginning if Lucy always wasn’t downplaying herself.
Her got fried spell raw power maybe on the level of red lighting and fire dragon king.

Mostly people act like Wendy could one shot Lucy, gray and gajeel. Even though all surpasses her in power.

 

[FireIce]

Her got fried spell raw power maybe on the level of red lighting and fire dragon king.

On that level is kinda pushing it.

 

[Darklord#10]

On that level is kinda pushing it.

Lol this isn't the first time I've seen something like this. One Lucy simp tried to convince me Lucy's mp=Erza and fire dragon king natsu. Lol imagine thinking Lucy's raw power is as strong as fire dragon king natsu

 

[Axiomus]

People are assuming Haku has bad stats among the BDSK, which is probably true, but there's a huge gap between the the Diabolos trio and someone like Kirin. Laxus can solo the trio without red lightning, but Kirin tanked his raiko red lightning finisher fairly easily. Even if Haku has bad stats among the BDSK, it's still possible he has better stats than the rest of Diabolos. Also, if Haku has trash stats, he still has to be stronger than the rest of Diabolos overall. Keep in mind that Skullion and Kyria are not without their hax. Skullion can turn himself and others into ash. Kyria can cut people's strength. These abilities are just as OP as turning people into dolls.

Beating Kyria isnt enough to scale Gottfried doesnt scale to red lightning. Kyria is below base Laxus.

Gray probably outstats Wendy. Probably. He's living on hype as Natsu's rival right now.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Gottfried scales above base laxus. Laxus used his strongest attack a secret art in base form. Which knocked Kiria out for 2-3 chapters. Lucy’s spell outright one shotted her, literally burned her to a crisp vaporized laxus coat and out for 13 chapters.

I just believe she is stronger than Wendy. Lucy has pretty good raw power. Ik she obviously weaker than Erza and laxus. But Lucy maybe catching up too gray/gajeel tier. Or already on it.

 

[FireIce]

But Lucy maybe catching up too gray/gajeel tier. Or already on it.

Probably not. It took Lucy all of her MP to beat Mimi while Gray basically oneshot Hakune once he could hit her with a spell. And he didn't use all of his magic power to do so.

Lucy, even powered up as a Nure-Onna, was still weak enough to be killed by LFD Natsu. Or at least that's what Aquarius thought. Gajeel gave an high diff to Base/LFD Natsu.

 

[Axiomus]

That still doesnt scale Gottfried to red lightning. Roaring Thunder is not an exhaustive move for Laxus. He can use attacks on this level multiple times. Laxus soloed Madmole and Skullion in base. Base Laxus can solo the entire Diabolos trio, with power to spare.

Red Lightning is Laxus going all out. Kyria isnt even someone who would make Laxus consider using it.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Probably not. It took Lucy all of her MP to beat Mimi while Gray basically oneshot Hakune once he could hit her with a spell. And he didn't use all of his magic power to do so.

Lucy, even powered up as a Nure-Onna, was still weak enough to be killed by LFD Natsu. Or at least that's what Aquarius thought. Gajeel gave an high diff to Base/LFD Natsu.

True but Grey fought an ice user. Those he had advantages over and on top of that he had Wendy’s enchantment. Lucy just had herself.

And to be fair lightning and water don’t mix. That’s probably what aquarius meant. Also their was also no guarantee he could have killed Lucy. Mostly cause water is weak against lightning.

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That still doesnt scale Gottfried to red lightning. Roaring Thunder is not an exhaustive move for Laxus. He can use attacks on this level multiple times. Laxus soloed Madmole and Skullion in base. Base Laxus can solo the entire Diabolos trio, with power to spare.

Red Lightning is Laxus going all out. Kyria isnt even someone who would make Laxus consider using it.

Yes however he still used a secret art in his base form. One of if not the strongest spell in base. It’s doesn’t exhaust cause it’s not his strongest spell. When used gottfried she already used a whole bunch of magic. Gottfried was just a finisher. Lucy could have defeated Kiria a lot easier and oneshotted her right off the bat if she wasn’t doubting herself.

 

[Axiomus]

Yes however he still used a secret art in his base form. One of if not the strongest spell in base. It’s doesn’t exhaust cause it’s not his strongest spell. When used gottfried she already used a whole bunch of magic. Gottfried was just a finisher. Lucy could have defeated Kiria a lot easier and oneshotted her right off the bat if she wasn’t doubting herself.

Still doesnt put it on red lightning's level. Casting Gottfried requires Lucy to use a star dress Lucy can only maintain for 16 seconds. Laxus can defeat the entire trio casually without ever resorting to red lightning. Beating Kyria simply doesnt put something on red lightning level.

 

[Darklord#10]

Still doesnt put it on red lightning's level. Casting Gottfried requires Lucy to use a star dress Lucy can only maintain for 16 seconds. Laxus can defeat the entire trio casually without ever resorting to red lightning. Beating Kyria simply doesnt put something on red lightning level.

I have a question for you, what was the purpose of fairy tail vs ddsk. What do you think the purpose of the fight was. If Erza and laxus fights showcase them being supposedly above gildarts level and natsu's fight with suzaku puts him close to suzaku. What about Wendy's victory against haku?

 

[Axiomus]

I have a question for you, what was the purpose of fairy tail vs ddsk. What do you think the purpose of the fight was. If Erza and laxus fights showcase them being supposedly above gildarts level and natsu's fight with suzaku puts him close to suzaku. What about Wendy's victory against haku?

I dont think MP means all that much unless it translates into something useful. So while DDSK have Gildarts lvl MP, they dont all have the same stats.

It's impossible to tell if Haku has poor stats or if Wendy just got much stronger, but Im assuming Wendy's physical stats hasnt jumped several tiers since Elentir.

 

[Ratrace]

I dont think MP means all that much unless it translates into something useful. So while DDSK have Gildarts lvl MP, they dont all have the same stats.

It's impossible to tell if Haku has poor stats or if Wendy just got much stronger, but Im assuming Wendy's physical stats hasnt jumped several tiers since Elentir.

If Wendy did get a lot stronger she did it really fast.