Yep exactly.
Bcs again we have feats of Natsu being stronger up to the BoF arc and in it. Natsu didn't even start to get stronger until after the PL arc.
How each arc till FF arc they wasn’t any proof that natsu was above gray except for power ups i don’t remember natsu beating a stronger opponent 1v1Bcs again we have feats of Natsu being stronger up to the BoF arc and in it. Natsu didn't even start to get stronger until after the PL arc.
Gildarts knows of Mystogan, no? That wouldn't be possible if Mystogan wasn't in the guild at least 3 years ago as Gild was gone for the 100 year quest.
He didn't even know Lisanna's death either. I can probably find more evidence that he joined earlier but I'm too lazy to read the Edolas arc.
What does that have anything to do with what I said? BoF arc Mira = Tenrou Mira. None of the S-Class got strong until SO or three months of training.
Laxus was perfectly fine from it, Makarov wasn't despite Makarov >>> BoS Laxus. It doesn't matter if he didn't fully fall asleep as he was shown to be dozing off.
Natsu didn't get power ups in the PL arc and the enemies he faced were from that arc an onward were enemies much stronger than Gray.
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Stop that, you’re flat out ignoring that Freed has backup from Bickslow. And Gray is definitely harming a rusty Mira, stop that. Freed was never stronger than Gray.
Bixlow, the guy who was oneshotted by Loke? He's barely any help at all lol. Rusty also got the upperhand only bcs they got their magic stripped and got pretty much a beat down for a substantial amount of time.
Yes that Bixlow, your argument is weak when they both we’re putting in the same skint of work in that fight. You saying he was barley any help just let’s me know you haven’t seen the fight recently.
I have seen the fight lol. The biggest gun and the one who did the most damage was Freed. Freed was stronger than Gray till maybe SO and that's bcs Freed didn't get any feats. DeS is where Gray really rose through the ranks.
Kagura:
Because she still lost
To Minerva's attack from the back? Yeah, it clearly makes sense (no)
Yes it does. Kagura had her little moments but then Erza won in the end
If you actually saw the fight you wouldn’t say shit like Bixslow didn’t help, Freed wasn’t winning without Bixslow. Gray has always been Freed’s Superior.
Bixlow destroyed one monster and hit him once. Freed was the main damage dealer as he was dealing the most damage and could have ended the fight on his own if Azuma didn't drain his power. Freed was stronger as Gray was not that strong Pre-TS.
Can't believe I'm agreeing with you on Gray man, but Gray really was fodder until he got Devil Slayer powerup. He barely improved, while Natsu and Gajeel flew past him
Bixlow and Freed worked together the whole fight, Freed landed the finishing blow but Rusty got overwhelmed because of the both of them. Azuma could access Tenrou's power anytime, he didn't need to against Mira.Bixlow destroyed one monster and hit him once. Freed was the main damage dealer as he was dealing the most damage and could have ended the fight on his own if Azuma didn't drain his power. Freed was stronger as Gray was not that strong Pre-TS.
Azuma didn't have the power of Tenrou until way later lol. He was also fighting a severely weakened Mirajane as well, and she had 50/50 chance to take him down if she used the rest of her magic power.
Azuma also only lost to Erza bcs he did use the trees power which royally backfired on him as Tenrou's power was actually protecting her.
W/o it he was shown to be able to stop Erza's strongest move.
Kagura got slaughtered as soon as Erza stopped letting her get free shots on her. She ended the fight in one hit and stomped Kagura. The only reason she wasn't down was bcs Erza didn't go for the KO blow, but it was clear Kagura didn't have anything left in the tank while Erza did.
Erza > Kagura once she got serious lol.
But Freed could have handle the situation alone. Bixlow's help was minimal. The only main help that Bixlow did was using Elf to stop the spell, but it only got to that point due to the power drain and Freed not being able to acess his Demon form. Freed ended the fight while not even being in his demon form either lol. Azuma only gained access after he got to the root of the tree. If he had access beforehand then he would have just sucked the MP out of the FT members as he was order to do.
lol you just started ww3. Get ready