Politics Hamas-Israel conflict

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

So if Hamas killed that much Israeli than it would be OK?

You're just being stubborn.

And Hamas get his ammunition from God?

They don't get it from the US.

Maybe be someday you'll understand that the problem isn't that Israel is killing more people than Hamas.

You're obviously are so smart that you read in my posts, where I said that the problem/cause of the conflict is Israel killing more civilians.

No but if you tell me that you're going to do nothing and let the members of your family inside your house die and those who escaped by chance live in fear and above of this leting them burn your house over and over again EVERYTIME and then you(not your neighbor) rebuilt it(money doesn't fall from the sky) without ever retaliate, I would say that you are a big LIAR.

Oh the irony, Hamas can use this excuse if you haven't noticed.

If I had the same mind set of a certain poster in this tread I would just say "it's because the UN value more the lives of Palestinians".

Oh ym gosh, I can't believe the rockets than hit Israel caused as much damage as what is happening to Palestine.

/sarcasm

You really like to repeat yourself IN THE SAME POST, don't you?

Hyprocite.

Finally I don't know how good you are at reading and intepretating, but you obviously think I'm Pro-Hamas, it that case I feel sorry for you.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

Added Al Jazeera English website on the first post so I'm being completely fair. Put a warning that it may have biased views.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Al-Jazeera Eng is quite good, they even have this http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/20091109519821785.html

People should read it.

 

[Onomatopoeia]

Al-Jazeera Eng is quite good, they even have this http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/20091109519821785.html

People should read it.

Thats why I put it down. It does have some obviously biased parts but for the most part it's probablly the best site for information.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Thats why I put it down. It does have some obviously biased parts but for the most part it's probablly the best site for information.

Yep they definitely give more information than some others.

 

[Akainu]

I didn't think I'd write again here as some are really stubborn or don't accept views created by "fake media", but here I go:

First of all I have to absolutely disagree about this being genocide. In Germany we sadly enough know what genocide is and it is what's even worse part of where the israelian neurosis is coming from in regards to security.
Some other "fresh" examples of genocide are Rwanda 1994 and though not officially admitted in Darfur where arabian muslims fight african muslims - in both conflicts UN failed.

Here I have to - again - make an interjection:
by saying it is not genocide I do NOT say it's not bad! It is bad what happens in Gaza.

Now let me move on.
T.D.A: I read your post about white phosphorous and I have to say it's nothing new. Akasunasori and me already discussed about it both knowing it is used. The problem is how it is used and for an example how it should not be used there is enough explicit material out there about the US and British armies in Fallujah.
Perhaps they should do another convention in geneva or wherever banning that shit for every use, but its probably too good a bargain like war in general is to ban it

And lastly I agree with koenosaki in the sense that there are many other conflicts that should be solved, but with everyones attention drawn to the middle east ...
Well anyway - someone else who is reading here and hoping for a 'peaceful' solution?
I mean even if Hamas doesn't stop firing I still hope IDF won't take the next step in the escalation they announced and withdraw instead - and all that before big Obama has to move a muscle ... too much wishfull thinking huh?

 

[Akasunanosasori]

about white phosphorous

 

[thsv]

just telll me why should hamas stop firing rockets on israel since they are attacking civilians only and they didn't accept the UN immediate ceas of fire agreement!

I wanted to let u know this since ur knowledge is limited to what u want to belive .
Def of terrorist:

United Nations Security Council Resolution 1373 discusses terrorism and is a primary UN authority for terrorism because it was issued under Chapter VII UN authority.

Resolution 1566 gives a definition:

criminal acts, including against civilians, committed with the intent to cause death or serious bodily injury, or taking of hostages, with the purpose to provoke a state of terror in the general public or in a group of persons or particular persons, intimidate a population or compel a government or an international organization to do or to abstain from doing any act.

Tell me israel is not doing that .
And based on ur knowledge can u tell me how israel was founded ?

Once again you failed to answer my question. I'm done with you.

 

[Belisar]

the conflict becomes even bigger because not only people of israel and gaza are suffering but also egyptian people near the border. syria (hezbollah) started firing rockets at israeli army.

about hamas: it's difficult to arrange a truce with people who don't even consider israel as a nation. if they could, they would bomb it away. iran is the same. if i were citizen of israel i would be pissed as hell.

would anyone here remain calm if your neighbour would sting you with a needle from time to time?

 

[thsv]

the conflict becomes even bigger because not only people of israel and gaza are suffering but also egyptian people near the border. syria (hezbollah) started firing rockets at israeli army.

about hamas: it's difficult to arrange a truce with people who don't even consider israel as a nation. if they could, they would bomb it away. iran is the same. if i were citizen of israel i would be pissed as hell.

would anyone here remain calm if your neighbour would sting you with a needle from time to time?

Unless there have been more rockets fired from South Lebanon over the weekend, Hezbollah are denying any responsibility for those attacks. Which says it all about Hamas's support around the Arab world.

Looks like I was right. Israel seem to be getting ready to wind up their operations. Just in time to avoid forcing Obama to deal with it and giving the right the propaganda they need to win the February elections. Well done Hamas. You've kept your partner in a job.

 

[Tenryuken]

israel has annonced that the war is going toward it's end.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

Some of the rockets are being fired by other Islamic militant groups and not Hamas.

 

[polaris]

I don't like these three words together "Islamic militant groups". they made Islam to be remembered with terror.
Middle East is really in a bad situation. That affects not only them also their neighboors. Both sides should be on the table to discuss not behind the guns.

 

[◆ T.D.A ◆]

It's true Islam shouldn't be linked with terror, but this is what the media calls these groups.

 

[Gecko Moria]

Israel killing way too many civilians. I mean its fine if they want to take out the guys that are shooting rockets at them but the Palestinian civilian casualties are thru the roof. Oh and their not letting any international media in, its to effing cover up all the damage they've done

 

[Tenryuken]

In French we say: "La fin justifie les moyens".

 

[thsv]

In French we say: "La fin justifie les moyens".

The end justifies the means?

In this day and age military deaths are hard for the general population to stomach, let alone civilian deaths.

 

[Tenryuken]

Now that they are so close to finish Hamas, they should go to the end and even civilian Palestinians agree with that cuz they don't want to live that situation again in couple of weeks, months or years if Israel let Hamas get away.
If they stop now Hamas would have won and will grown bigger.

 

[polaris]

They cant stop hamas like this.Everyday more innocent kids, civillians in Palestine are hating Israel. A lot of people lost the ones that they love..you cant expect them to live happily after what Israel done, you cant expect the same from Israel people neither because of hamas.
There wont be a certain finish of hamas. both of them insist of their ideas; this wont end unless they think of a way to live together both Palestine people and Israel people caring each other. I hope my lifetime let me see that happening.

 

[mc404]

Now that they are so close to finish Hamas, they should go to the end and even civilian Palestinians agree with that cuz they don't want to live that situation again in couple of weeks, months or years if Israel let Hamas get away.
If they stop now Hamas would have won and will grown bigger.

Do you read the things you write here in your posts to see how they sound from the perspective of another reader? You might as well say kill everyone in Palestine and be done with it.

And I thought the pre-WWII mentality was over. nope, it's alive and well.