have dolors demon powers been retconned?

[RavenSupreme]

we saw dolor flying with demon powers when the 10c first launched themselves to edingburgh. he propelled himself in the air somehow.

however in the recent chapters he never relied on his demonic powers even when being sliced and diced by meliodas.

the regular demonic healing works perfectly to re-attach limbs and severed bodyparts. with dolor not using this advantage but relying on gloxinias drop of life.

the latter, while not utilizing any form of demonic power at least was seen with the demon mark on the chest, meaning he somehow was bestowed the powers...regardless if and how he can use them

but dolor seems to miss them at all?

 

[Demonspeed]

No, I think he and Gloxinia due to not being born Demons can only use it for basic things like flight and shape shifting. They have no regeneration or Darkness abilities because they are still themselves unlike Hendrickson or the Humans who lost their minds.

 

[kkck]

No, I think he and Gloxinia due to not being born Demons can only use it for basic things like flight and shape shifting. They have no regeneration or Darkness abilities because they are still themselves unlike Hendrickson or the Humans who lost their minds.

Well, if we consider galan then it would seem like not all demons use those abilities that casually. Though galan did use his demon powers to heal. I do think it is plausible gloxinia relied on his seventh form over his demon powers for healing simply because moon rose works better. Meliodas has made the point that demon healing is far from perfect and the damage remains over time. So using moon rose over demon powers was perhaps a way to overcome that to an extent. Also worth noting, meliodas did make the point that hendricksen was not really a demon nor a human... I would be very surprised if hendricksen as he was had more powers than any one of the commandments. The commandments are supposed to be exceptionally powerful full fledged demons after all.

 

[Yakkun]

Using those powers may consume magic energy which they have painfully little of. Maybe they were saving it for their more natural magic abilities like Creation and for Basquias.

 

[overlordpringerx]

Using those powers may consume magic energy which they have painfully little of. Maybe they were saving it for their more natural magic abilities like Creation and for Basquias.

They could still summon their wings with 0 magic

 

[kkck]

True, they were able to use the black marks when they were released from the seal even though they were at 0 magic power. Odds are that the black markings are either independent or it's workings are related to physical energy.

 

[Yakkun]

They could still summon their wings with 0 magic

Yeach but what good would those have been in the fight? They are mostly used for long distance travel. Anything short distance or just to bridge small gaps in a fight, they are better off using their normal combat and reaction speed.

 

[overlordpringerx]

Yeach but what good would those have been in the fight? They are mostly used for long distance travel. Anything short distance or just to bridge small gaps in a fight, they are better off using their normal combat and reaction speed.

The point is, they don't seem to require magic to use their demon abilities

 

[Yakkun]

The point is, they don't seem to require magic to use their demon abilities

Point taken. Mera was using her scarf for all kinds of stuff too without any magic power prior. So it probably doesn't consume any and it is simply personal choice that Glox and Dolor didn't use them. Or maybe they did it out of courtesy for their former comrade, who knows.

 

[Calum]

Abilities like demons wings comes naturally with having demon blood inside their veins. Dolor and Gloxinia aren't able to heal themselves because they aren't natural born demons and they are originally from different races.

 

[Yakkun]

Abilities like demons wings comes naturally with having demon blood inside their veins. Dolor and Gloxinia aren't able to heal themselves because they aren't natural born demons and they are originally from different races.

Curious point, that. Especially when you look at that one page where they are all flying... there are those who have wings like bird wings or angel wings and the others all have unique, differently shaped ones. That includes Graylord, Mera, Galan, Dolor and Gloxinia. Looks like they were originally members of different races if that is one hint to go by.

 

[kkck]

Abilities like demons wings comes naturally with having demon blood inside their veins. Dolor and Gloxinia aren't able to heal themselves because they aren't natural born demons and they are originally from different races.

We don't really know that.... But we do know that demon healing is considerably limited. Take a look at merascylla, she constantly uses her demon powers and she merely healed to a point where she put herself together while remaining charred. Dolor and gloxinia could potentially put themselves back together with their demon abilities if they are given the time but the damage would at large remain. Odds are the drop of life gloxinia uses goes farther than that and does a more thorough job when healing.

 

[overlordpringerx]

Abilities like demons wings comes naturally with having demon blood inside their veins. Dolor and Gloxinia aren't able to heal themselves because they aren't natural born demons and they are originally from different races.

Didn't Hendricksen heal himself too?

 

[Yakkun]

Didn't Hendricksen heal himself too?

I think that's because he studied the demon clan in detail... maybe he had some advanced control over it.

 

[overlordpringerx]

I think that's because he studied the demon clan in detail... maybe he had some advanced control over it.

But wouldn't dolor and Gloxinia have time to learn how to regenerate long ago? They were sealed for 3000 years

 

[Demonspeed]

Hendrickson is weaker than a Gray Demon though so that's why I think the Demon powers prevailed, Dolor and Gloxinia don't seem to have been powered up by the blood, they were already strong and have been converted by the Demon King. Their Fairy and Giant traits prevail.

 

[Yakkun]

But wouldn't dolor and Gloxinia have time to learn how to regenerate long ago? They were sealed for 3000 years

I don't know how much they could even do while being sealed. No idea to be honest.

I guess the most reasonable thing to chalk down is that they both simply didn't want to use those powers against Mel. Maybe they will later against different opponents?

 

[Calum]

We don't really know that.... But we do know that demon healing is considerably limited. Take a look at merascylla, she constantly uses her demon powers and she merely healed to a point where she put herself together while remaining charred. Dolor and gloxinia could potentially put themselves back together with their demon abilities if they are given the time but the damage would at large remain. Odds are the drop of life gloxinia uses goes farther than that and does a more thorough job when healing.

We don't really know that.... But we do know that demon healing is considerably limited. Take a look at merascylla, she constantly uses her demon powers and she merely healed to a point where she put herself together while remaining charred. Dolor and gloxinia could potentially put themselves back together with their demon abilities if they are given the time but the damage would at large remain. Odds are the drop of life gloxinia uses goes farther than that and does a more thorough job when healing.

I assume it depends on the amount of demon blood an individual consumes. Hendy already had demon blood inside him before he became an asherm demon. Humans might even be more compatible with demon blood and that would explain why they are able to naturally use their abilities. Glox doesn't rely on demon healing for that reason and Dolor either didn't care to heal himself in battle or he didn't have the time.

 

[kkck]

I assume it depends on the amount of demon blood an individual consumes. Hendy already had demon blood inside him before he became an asherm demon. Humans might even be more compatible with demon blood and that would explain why they are able to naturally use their abilities. Glox doesn't rely on demon healing for that reason and Dolor either didn't care to heal himself in battle or he didn't have the time.

I am not so sure that turning a commandment into a demon would be the same process that turned hendricksen into what he became. Meliodas even made the point that hendricksen was neither human nor a demon, just an idiot. Which makes sense because neither gloxinia nor dolor underwent physical changes from their demonic transformations (other than dolor's skin color at least). Heck, the implication so far is that neither dolor or gloxinia underwent even personality changes, they willingly changed sides. And as far as we know they were turned into actual demons, not just idiots like hendricksen.

 

[Yakkun]

I am not so sure that turning a commandment into a demon would be the same process that turned hendricksen into what he became. Meliodas even made the point that hendricksen was neither human nor a demon, just an idiot. Which makes sense because neither gloxinia nor dolor underwent physical changes from their demonic transformations (other than dolor's skin color at least). Heck, the implication so far is that neither dolor or gloxinia underwent even personality changes, they willingly changed sides. And as far as we know they were turned into actual demons, not just idiots like hendricksen.

Maybe Meliodas made that remark because Hendricksen became an advanced hybrid, like the Reactors only better. But it is still a dangerous transformation because it probably forsook most of his humanity in exchange for demonic powers yet not being close enough to the real deal.

Then again, what Hendricksen did was an inpromptu transformation without a test run. He said he would've liked to study more before doing this but it was do or die.