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I hope the hiatus comes to an end soon. Past month I had an interesting dream with the series. I was Shizuku, and Hisoka killed me in the ship, as well as Bonolenov haha. In response, the spiders panicked and, as my perspective changed to Machi's, the troupe split into two groups, with Feitan, Phinks and Franklin rioting against Chrollo's ineffectuality as a leader. Being murdered by Hisoka was quite scary, but it was a fun dream anyway. Look at what you do to me, Togashi :emocat This is the arc I have been the most excited about in the history of HxH, and it's depressing to know it may never be concluded.


i always found that a very stupid argument
cows and pigs are not sentient or able to communicate with humans, we dont understand what they say and cannot infer their actual emotional state if they even have any
those cute ants are commumicating with us, which makes them actually the powerhungry cruel beings they accuse humans of being
Well they can communicate pain.
And we usually refuse to listen to that, so i'd say meruem is absolutely right there.
Meruem is at least as far beyond humanity in terms of mental capacity as we are in front of a cow.
True. I agree with you, shionoro. Furthermore, if sentient means being capable of feeling and cognition, the truth is that pigs and cows are certainly sentient. They may not be conscious of themselves to the same degree that we are (though to which degree they are not it's difficult to determine), but they are very close to us in many respects. Their frontal lobe is less developed than ours, which means they are weaker in reason. There is also very little evidence that most mammals are able to respond to mirrored images of themselves in order to manipulate objects, which would be an indicative of high consciousness. This trait is present in apes and dolphins, among other animals. However, their limbic system is very developed, and they can feel not only pain and distress, but also affection, strong attachment to offspring and many other emotions we use to think of as essential to our species. This was observed and formalized by comparative neuroanatomists and behavioral researchers in the data surrounding the Triune model of brain evolution:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain#Status_of_the_model

Also, as one can see in the current status section, to which I have linked, the model has been gradually displaced by new findings that suggest not that mammals are less capable of affection and cognition than previously expected, but rather that other complex chordate branches have evolved analogical solutions that make them able to feel and cognize in a similar fashion. Birds, who evolved directly from past Dinosaurs (they are Dinosaurs themselves) are capable of toolmaking, affection, language-like skills and social memory. Also, although your regular citizen cannot communicate with animals or understand their language, a trained zoologist, with proper preparation, can both understand their communication signs and even, to some extent, react to them in order to achieve his goals.

One does not need to become a vegetarian. Due to health reasons, I’m not one anymore. However, it’s unarguable that we kill animals that are capable of quite complex cognitive and emotional expression. Our ancestors have developed ways to ignore it or more easily cope with it. The Biblical myth that Adam was declared the ruler of the Earth by God, for instance, is one such example. The myth from Hesiod’s Theogony explaining why humans ate the flesh of the animals they offered to the gods, for instance, is another one. However, the explanations we create are nothing more than post-hoc rationalizations of our natural place in the food net as apex predators. The very reason we create them, however, is the fact that our branch of the Animal Kingdom developed the physiological ground necessary for feelings of affection and remorse. As is to be expected in evolution, many of our somewhat close cousins, including most mammals, also possess to a degree many of these emotions. Finally, as far as the involving politics are concerned, even if one does not become a vegetarian, one can still fight for more animal rights. In our current system of intensive production, many animals are sadly born under very precarious conditions and live under them for their entire lives, until they are slaughtered for human consumption. Many fight for better conditions and new solutions in the meat and dairy industries to overcome that problem without displacing the industries themselves. Of course, from this perspective, we would still be exploiting and killing animals, but our means of exploitation and killing could be far tamer than they currently are.
 
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Bottomline is that we really are kinda worse than the antking wanted to be at the end of his developement.

Chances are, humanity would have led a happier life under the antrule than it does in the usual hunter society.
It would have meant less pain for humanity as a whole.

But Netero was absolutely right when he then accused meruem of just not understanding the human instinct.
There is no way humanity would ever be satisfied when living under another's rule like cattle, and that is why they would rather nuke themselves (depicted by leading to the deaths of a lot of civillians with the rose) than bowing down.
 

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There is no way humanity would ever be satisfied when living under another's rule like cattle, and that is why they would rather nuke themselves (depicted by leading to the deaths of a lot of civillians with the rose) than bowing down.
Maybe in fiction, but IRL we live like cattle, we only are not used as food material.
 

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Maybe in fiction, but IRL we live like cattle, we only are not used as food material.
The fact that there is and never was a worldruler speaks a different language.
 

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YES!, YEEEEEEEEES!

That means there is nothing in the way of new chapters anymore!
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Also: The part about resuming at the same date....Yes PLEEEASE?^^
 

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YES!, YEEEEEEEEES!

That means there is nothing in the way of new chapters anymore!
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Also: The part about resuming at the same date....Yes PLEEEASE?^^
One thing at a time :D. It's just a speculation ,I don't think he will return the same day.
 

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One thing at a time :D. It's just a speculation ,I don't think he will return the same day.
I don't think so either.
But I think he will start working on readying the new chaps the week after.

I am checking it up atm, but so far, it seems like usually, arround 2 months after the tankubon, the serialization follows.
 

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I am expecting him to come back soon after this as well, for promotion.
 

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Last year he started serializing first then came the volume release date announcement right ? But this is still a great sign, thx Demonspeed for the news !

Anyway I'm just glad volume 34 is confirmed to be on its way !

P.S.: Now it's the second time that an anouncement of this kind happens just when I get a volume...too bad I have them all now ...:feelsgoodman
 

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If he add Kurapika's one shot and a teasing pic from April fools last month that is gonna be the biggest troll XD~
 

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Incoming: Leorio one shot^^

Nah, i am pretty confident about this. I think he will resolve the kakin boatfight this time.
 

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HUNTERXHUNTER IS COMING BACK
 

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We really want to thank Heiji for this news :)
 

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Is it safe to assume that chrollo and hisoka will be in the cover?
 

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I think it will be both Hisoka and Chrollo. If not both, Hisoka alone.
 

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Knowing Togashi it might be even Gon, like volume 18 and 19 who had Kurapika and Leorio
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Btw i wanted to share these two albums with you guys ,it contains some of my favorite manga panels
www.imgur.com/gallery/LJEwl
www.imgur.com/gallery/fNWLM
 
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