Now that we have seen Edahn's cope about his main spear? How does that make u see Traumerei? As his character and all?
For instance, when he was almost out of gas against Blossom flame, we never get that monologue if I had gotten powers back from Leviathan, through out the fight never once did he said it?
PS I believe he was at FP as per shin TL but for those who believe Traumerei was missing a bit of chunk of his powers.
Nothing much changed for me? I maintain that there are no huge gaps between FHs. Eduan is someone who actually enjoys fighting, he is different from Traumerei.
At full power Traumerei's kit is more simple and Disconnection is still one of the most broken abilities in the series. Eduan has various abilities and more versatility in a fight. He is great at close and long range.
Nothing much changed for me? I maintain that there are no huge gaps between FHs. Eduan is someone who actually enjoys fighting, he is different from Traumerei.
At full power Traumerei's kit is more simple and Disconnection is still one of the most broken abilities in the series. Eduan has various abilities and more versatility in a fight. He is great at close and long range.
I am talking more about the character not just powerscaling. Like here we see Edahn cope about his main spear again and again but Traumerei never said that for leviathan even when he was at last leg against blossom flames
He had no Leviathan, so he was not at his full potential. It does not mean, though, that version of his was not stronger than his version during the great journey or the war against V.
The thing with Traumerei was that he had no idea of his true potential as he had no idea what his disconnection could really evolve. Also, fights do have contexts, Traumerei had cummulative damage from the Okbi during the whole fight against Gustang when he was holding back, and Blossom's flame was a hard counter, Gustang final attack was a combo of Okbi + Blossom's Flames. Traum was very hard to put down even then.
He had no Leviathan, so he was not at his full potential. It does not mean, though, that version of his was not stronger than his version during the great journey or the war against V.
The thing with Traumerei was that he had no idea of his true potential as he had no idea what his disconnection could really evolve. Also, fights do have contexts, Traumerei had cummulative damage from the Okbi during the whole fight against Gustang when he was holding back, and Blossom's flame was a hard counter, Gustang final attack was a combo of Okbi + Blossom's Flames. Traum was very hard to put down even then.
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It is truly a weird choice to have a weapon being stronger than the FH turning himself into a spear.
The only thing i got from this chapter is that weapons are more powerful than ppl
This chapter literally ruiend whole thing , even as a urek fan if urek had lost i'd accept but what kind of nonsense writing is this i dont get it and i know that urek is literally stronger but without showing us his full power it makes no sense , literally the guy is called strongest but siu wont show us anything ..
but this chapter pretty much proved my points:
Shinwory is a weak ability
Weapon depenedend guys are weaklings
And gustang literally can kill any fh like he has said ...
All fhs are the same and not big difference between them, some lack power but they are using weapons to reach to the opponents level that's whole agenda but still its a whole new thng that is a proof that FHs are weaklings even luslec can kick these guys asses if you ask me their asses will be saved only because of the contracts and luslec cannot kick them , so ancients and old towerborns can rival fhs easily but they cannot kill fhs and that's why all those contracts otherwise there is no need to have any kind of contract at all , even zahard made tons of contracts because he is one of those weaklings who uses weapons and i am now sure that blossom can kick zahards ass easily because zahard literally has nothing to go against blossom and no one can prove me otherwise but she cannot control her powers sadly .
and tihs whole weapon agenda reminds me of one thing "when penta was running" outside because urek was following him i wont be surprised that penta is another weakling guy who depends on weapons , enryu will be another weakling without a thorn like i've been saying its a big proof that enryu is an ordinary irregular unless he his a shiny and which i think he is ...
look at baam ? can he kill an admin 1vs1 without a thorn ? LOL any admin would rip him apart without a thorn so with a thorn like i've been saying anyone can rival an admin so that's not the power that coems from the body itself so baam is another weakling and will be another weakling especially if the guy supposedly to be an axis LOL yet pure weakling axis the guy cannot even use shinsoo without weapons LOL
so whatever i've been saying it becomes reality literally LOL so all those weapon guys are weaklings without weapons and HOn will be another weakling witohut a weapon and zahard will be also LOL
so SIU literally ruiend whole image of strongest fhs , eduan supposedly shall be more powerful than blossom yet in reality blossom would use eduan as a carpet and would sweep the floor with him
Look at how stupid this spin off is mad,e literally aubrion compared pentaminum to urek yet we all know urek was suppressed and also mago had taken his power and all that thing but still , aubrion compared penta vs urek yet he got surprised that he got defeated ? whaat ? the guy is comaprable to penta yet you got surprised ? LOL
How do u see Traumerei lack of cope like Edahn had? Like in the face of blossom flames and when he was on last leg, he didn't say shit I don't have the power I gave to leviathan cope like Edahn has I forgot my main Spear
How do u see Traumerei lack of cope like Edahn had? Like in the face of blossom flames and when he was on last leg, he didn't say shit I don't have the power I gave to leviathan cope like Edahn has I forgot my main Spear
Traumerei was in a death match against his friend and he used all that he had in his arsenal at that time, even evolving during the fight. He knew he was done for.
Don't get me wrong, i dont think that they are just weakling i know they are powerful but not just as people brag about them that's whole thing i wanted to say, and i also wanted to say that without weapon they dont seem to be powerful enough after eduan talk that's whole thing but overall i know that they are more powerful than towerborn at least
How do u see Traumerei lack of cope like Edahn had? Like in the face of blossom flames and when he was on last leg, he didn't say shit I don't have the power I gave to leviathan cope like Edahn has I forgot my main Spear
I am 10000% sure that it has nothing to do with personalities because leviathan is just weakling, so traumerei would also said if he had something left but he didn't because he hadn't had anything to show off ...
Surely, leviathan is just weakling and all these monsters are just one punchy thing for blossoms flames and surely tramereis disconnection is far more powerful than any beast traumerei had so front of blossoms flame he cannot boast like i have left my weapon at my home ...
Traumerei said he was at full power so I don't think Leviathan matters. Especially after all the time that passed and the fact that he was never able to control him. It's likely that Traumerei created another Water Dragon after him.
Even if Traumerei were able to absorb him I don't see how it would change anything since Disconnection isn't really about raw power. The 3D Disconnection is the ability at its peak.
Even if Traumerei were able to absorb him I don't see how it would change anything since Disconnection isn't really about raw power. The 3D Disconnection is the ability at its peak.
Traumerei said he was at full power so I don't think Leviathan matters. Especially after all the time that passed and the fact that he was never able to control him. It's likely that Traumerei created another Water Dragon after him.
Even if Traumerei were able to absorb him I don't see how it would change anything since Disconnection isn't really about raw power. The 3D Disconnection is the ability at its peak.
Actually absorbing his animals changed the Rupture. Before absorption, his Rupture could last only few moments and was in 2D form. Also one 3D Rupture has more sheets of Rupture than he ever used before evolving.
By estimation, he fired atleast 300-400 sheets of Rupture throughout the fight. If he had gotten leviathan, he may could have created 4D Rupture assuming 3 WDs signifies 3D. With leviathan it becomes 4D.
Actually absorbing his animals changed the Rupture. Before absorption, his Rupture could last only few moments and was in 2D form. Also one 3D Rupture has more sheets of Rupture than he ever used before evolving.
By estimation, he fired atleast 300-400 sheets of Rupture throughout the fight. If he had gotten leviathan, he may could have created 4D Rupture assuming 3 WDs signifies 3D. With leviathan it becomes 4D.
Could be, but Traum had no idea of that. That version of his was stronger than his previous version when he had Leviathan then even Ifhe got a relevant power up by absorbing Leviathan, there is no proof that would be enough
I mean, the issue of leviathan really depends on how thin traumerei spread his power across multiple creatures. When it comes to his summons only valhalla was a threat to a family head by itself. Vanquish was only really relevant when traumerei recalled it and wielded it as a weapon himself. Rapid has immaculate drip as far as shineuh go but it never came close to what valhalla did alone nor what vanquish did while being used as a weapon by traumerei. Fandore harp had neat utility and was quick iirc but that's it. (I don't recall if leviatan was counted among the 3 sea dragons traumerei had or if he was a fourth that traumerei never used).
In any case, odds are that absorbing leviathan would be a boost to traumerei but him alone wouldn't add up to an overwhelming boost. I doubt traumerei shared even 20% of his power across all his shineuh. My completely random and barely educated guess on this (since there's not that much to go on) would be that had traumerei been able to recall leviathan the biggest boost we would have seen is malice, the amalgamation of all shineuh, would have had a stronger defense (leviathan seems to be more of a defensive shineuh).
I mean, the issue of leviathan really depends on how thin traumerei spread his power across multiple creatures. When it comes to his summons only valhalla was a threat to a family head by itself. Vanquish was only really relevant when traumerei recalled it and wielded it as a weapon himself. Rapid has immaculate drip as far as shineuh go but it never came close to what valhalla did alone nor what vanquish did while being used as a weapon by traumerei. Fandore harp had neat utility and was quick iirc but that's it. (I don't recall if leviatan was counted among the 3 sea dragons traumerei had or if he was a fourth that traumerei never used).
In any case, odds are that absorbing leviathan would be a boost to traumerei but him alone wouldn't add up to an overwhelming boost. I doubt traumerei shared even 20% of his power across all his shineuh. My completely random and barely educated guess on this (since there's not that much to go on) would be that had traumerei been able to recall leviathan the biggest boost we would have seen is malice, the amalgamation of all shineuh, would have had a stronger defense (leviathan seems to be more of a defensive shineuh).
I think his shinheuh held more than 50% of his power. He went from stacking 500-1000(estimate) 2d sheet to form a construct. His full power could easily wrap like 100 2d sheet into 1 3D orb. He spammed like hundreds of his 3D orbs.
I think his shinheuh held more than 50% of his power. He went from stacking 500-1000(estimate) 2d sheet to form a construct. His full power could easily wrap like 100 2d sheet into 1 3D orb. He spammed like hundreds of his 3D orbs.
I feel like half his power is A LOT in this case. He definitely had an increase of course but it sounds weird that he needed to double his power to get disruption to bend. Gustang definitely had trouble against traumerei's enhanced form but in shonen terms if you have about twice the power of someone you basically wreck him. Which is not quite what happened. If he had shared THAT much of his power you'd think more of his shineuh would have been relevant against traumerei at least.
