Question How do you feel about Lisanna?

[Axiomus]

Lisanna could technically be considered Natsu's childhood friend, but I wouldn't consider that as her primary standing in the series. Characters have mentioned Lisanna's past relationship with Natsu, but we've never actually seen the story focus on this after her return. Whenever Lisanna is really involved with a fight or something significant to the main plot, her story is entangled with whatever is going on with Elfman or Mirajane. As far as her being a love rival goes... That pretty much went out the window during the Tenrou Island arc. Lisanna told Lucy to stick close to Natsu before the Hades fight, and Lucy did exactly that by hugging Natsu a bunch of times during that fight. If any love triangle is going to pop up at this point, it's going to be with Touka.

Maybe she will get a chance against Diabolos provided those three aren't the weakest.

Diabolos is a guild full of dragon slayers though, and I struggle to see Lisanna beating any dragon slayer. Even Wendy. Maybe in a tag team with Mira and Elfman.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

Even Wendy

I feel like wendy might be able to beat Skullion since her magic is the perfect counter for him.

 

[Arjuna]

Maybe she will get a chance against Diabolos provided those three aren't the weakest. She had more depth to her character in death.

--- Double Post Merged, Aug 24, 2019, Original Post Date: Aug 24, 2019 ---

Part of it is on Mashima has well for not developing her character. If he didn't have any use for her. He should have let her stayed dead.

To be honest i want her to die like this

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[Axiomus]

Ouch, @Arjuna. That's some harsh wishes.

I feel like wendy might be able to beat Skullion since her magic is the perfect counter for him.

He's still too stronk for her even if she could hit him. Lisanna will have it even worse.

 

[Arjuna]

Ouch, @Arjuna. That's some harsh wishes.

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To tell the truth i doubt Lisanna will get major feats,even Mashima probably doesn't know how to fit in the current plot as it was not originally his idea to bring her back.

 

[Nemispelled]

If she is Lucy's love rival Hiro sure hasn't done anything with it. Also one panel was when they still thought she was dead and the other right after she came back how about after that. To be fair what I said before could be said about most side characters in this manga

While Mashima hasn't made any serious attempts to compare NaLu with NaLi, he has teased it occasionally during some parts of the manga. For example, when Lisanna and Natsu were stuck in the prison during Tartaros' attack, there was a lot of sexual comedy between them.

Spoiler: Lisanna & Natsu stuck in prison together

And yes, unfortunately, I would agree that most side characters including Lisanna have been ignored for much of the series. However, I wouldn't say that makes Lisanna a useless character. Her "coming back from the dead" is no different than the mass majority of FT characters who have also seemingly come back from death.

FT has a character death issue, but that doesn't have anything to do with Lisanna's significance/role in the story. I don't see why many fans call Lisanna's character useless or her return to Earthland pointless.

She may not have a big role to play, but that goes for the rest of the side characters, which nobody complains about.

Lisanna is arguably closer to the main character than many of the other characters in FT. The only reason she does not get spotlight around Natsu is because that would interfere with the progression of NaLu.

But just because Lisanna is no longer relevant as a romantic partner for Natsu, that doesn't make her character any less likable or useless/pointless.

For me personally, the entire story's cumulative progression and development over time has always counted more than just what is currently relevant in the latest chapters.


And to reiterate my opinion in the poll, I still like Lisanna's character a lot and think that the Strauss Siblings are one of the better characters in this manga. The only reason someone would dislike her is if they feel threatened by a "certain" shipping rivalry.

 

[Axiomus]

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To tell the truth i doubt Lisanna will get major feats,even Mashima probably doesn't know how to fit in the current plot as it was not originally his idea to bring her back.

Well, we have no idea if Hiro Mashima planned to bring Lisanna back or not. We do know that he certainly didn't have anything in store for her after he returned though. Lisanna doesn't necessarily need major feats. What she needs is storyline significance. Because right now, she's basically irrelevant to the main plot.

Lisanna is arguably closer to the main character than many of the other characters in FT. The only reason she does not get spotlight around Natsu is because that would interfere with the progression of NaLu.

I kind of disagree with this. It is perfectly possible for Lisanna to have interactions with Natsu and not interfere with NaLu.

The other members of team Natsu. Gray, Erza, and Wendy have all had moments with Natsu throughout, especially in the arc that focuses on them. For example Galuna for Gray and Tower of Heaven for Erza. If Hiro Mashima really wanted to, he could have given Lisanna an important role in the Alvarez arc, which was really Natsu's arc. The drive was simply not there.

 

[Ratrace]

While Mashima hasn't made any serious attempts to compare NaLu with NaLi, he has teased it occasionally during some parts of the manga. For example, when Lisanna and Natsu were stuck in the prison during Tartaros' attack, there was a lot of sexual comedy between them.

Spoiler: Lisanna & Natsu stuck in prison together

And yes, unfortunately, I would agree that most side characters including Lisanna have been ignored for much of the series. However, I wouldn't say that makes Lisanna a useless character. Her "coming back from the dead" is no different than the mass majority of FT characters who have also seemingly come back from death.

FT has a character death issue, but that doesn't have anything to do with Lisanna's significance/role in the story. I don't see why many fans call Lisanna's character useless or her return to Earthland pointless.

She may not have a big role to play, but that goes for the rest of the side characters, which nobody complains about.

Lisanna is arguably closer to the main character than many of the other characters in FT. The only reason she does not get spotlight around Natsu is because that would interfere with the progression of NaLu.

But just because Lisanna is no longer relevant as a romantic partner for Natsu, that doesn't make her character any less likable or useless/pointless.

For me personally, the entire story's cumulative progression and development over time has always counted more than just what is currently relevant in the latest chapters.


And to reiterate my opinion in the poll, I still like Lisanna's character a lot and think that the Strauss Siblings are one of the better characters in this manga. The only reason someone would dislike her is if they feel threatened by a "certain" shipping rivalry.

If you like her fine, but after coming back Hiro just doesn't care about her as much

 

[M3J]

not bad, a minor character who could have made a great pairing with Natsu. Natsu actually showed romantic interest in her ages ago.

 

[Star Frost]

The way it looks, her only role is to be the supporting character of Mirajane. She could have continued her role as Natsu's close friend or possibly a love triangle, but that definitely went out the window the moment she told Lucy to stay with Natsu lol. It's like the author way of saying he has zero idea on how to make her relevant to the main plot. So she's better off as Mirajane's shadow.

 

[Kurumi Tokisaki]

To be honest i want her to die like this

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Or like this

As long as it's a member of FT expect Mira. I don't mind it.

 

[Arjuna]

Well, we have no idea if Hiro Mashima planned to bring Lisanna back or not. We do know that he certainly didn't have anything in store for her after he returned though. Lisanna doesn't necessarily need major feats. What she needs is storyline significance. Because right now, she's basically irrelevant to the main plot.



I kind of disagree with this. It is perfectly possible for Lisanna to have interactions with Natsu and not interfere with NaLu.

The other members of team Natsu. Gray, Erza, and Wendy have all had moments with Natsu throughout, especially in the arc that focuses on them. For example Galuna for Gray and Tower of Heaven for Erza. If Hiro Mashima really wanted to, he could have given Lisanna an important role in the Alvarez arc, which was really Natsu's arc. The drive was simply not there.

It was his editor who forced him to bring back Lisanna.

 

[Nemispelled]

I kind of disagree with this. It is perfectly possible for Lisanna to have interactions with Natsu and not interfere with NaLu.

The other members of team Natsu. Gray, Erza, and Wendy have all had moments with Natsu throughout, especially in the arc that focuses on them. For example Galuna for Gray and Tower of Heaven for Erza. If Hiro Mashima really wanted to, he could have given Lisanna an important role in the Alvarez arc, which was really Natsu's arc. The drive was simply not there.

Well, by "spotlight around Natsu", I was referring more to Mashima's way of teasing their close relationship. Obviously, with Lucy being Natsu's love interest in the series, Mashima couldn't emphasize Lisanna's strong bond with Natsu otherwise it could be interpreted as a romantic one, which Hiro wasn't going for.

Like you said in your earlier post, Lisanna told Lucy to stick close to Natsu during the Hades fight. This part in the series heavily implied that Lisanna acknowledged and accepted Lucy's close connection with Natsu. After being stuck in Edolas for many years, Lisanna realized that her relationship with Natsu wasn't quite the same as it was when they were young, especially since Natsu had grown close with another female ever since she was gone.

In other words, this was Hiro's way of de-emphasizing Natsu's relationship with Lisanna and letting fans know that NaLu was progressing and that they were going to be the likely couple at the end.

As for Gray, Erza, and Wendy, they were never serious contenders for being Natsu's possible romantic interest anyways, so Mashima could easily focus on their friendship and comradery instead.


In my opinion, if Lucy was not romantically involved with Natsu throughout the series, Lisanna would be the next in line to take that role, especially given their backstory and close relationship as children.

But understandably, Lisanna had to "keep her distance" in order for Lucy to become the apparent love interest in the end.

 

[Kiki]

I feel grateful for Lisanna, because she is there for Mirajane's character development, who is one of my favorite characters

 

[kaiiruuu]

I don't get the hate for Lisanna. I mean, why would people hate someone that literally contributes nothing to the storyline (aside from the not contributing part at all)

I used to ship Natsu x Lisanna in FT's early days but got tired of it since Mashima keeps on shoving NaLu in our throats. Lisanna's magic is versatile and interesting too. She could imitate the Zoan devil fruit and take over mythical creatures such as chimera, sea serpents, phoenix, etc. That could've been an interesting power up for her instead of the stupid winter bunny suit she used in Alvarez smh.

 

[everythingnice]

Lisanna has no actual relevance in the story. She had more impact dead and she should have stayed dead. Imo Edolas' only mistake was Lisanna Strauss, it would have been better with the Edolas Lisanna bonding with Natsu, Happy, Lucy.

 

[WoWfan]

Well that would have made no sense though as there would have been no vacancy for the Lisannas to switch out. And Lisanna was from Earthland which she had to go back to their world

 

[everythingnice]

Well that would have made no sense though as there would have been no vacancy for the Lisannas to switch out. And Lisanna was from Earthland which she had to go back to their world

Were you replying to me? If so then I meant the Edolas Lisanna (as in, her not dying and being alive) bonding with Team Natsu, without any need for Earthland Lisanna coming in between (she should have stayed dead). Of course Edolas Lisanna would stay in Edolas, that's for the best.

 

[WoWfan]

@somethingnice Well, I mean no offense or anything, I just feel that how the story is and what Hiro wants to do I can understand and appreciate, especially with how FT adopts the multiverse into the story, what will Infinite possibilities, it kinda tells the audience of how the story goes, maybe he could have let Lisanna stay dead or not, I also kind of appreciate how it goes where one version of someone dies and the other version travels to another world because of a vacancy, like in the tv series Man in the High Castle.

 

[Gladiolus]

I don't care much about her. She has a cute design, but her role in the story is null and her magic is nothing impressive and is basically used for fanservice more often than not. Mashima should have let her stay dead and use her as a motivation for Elfman/Mirajane in their battles, as it was obvious that he didn't know what to do with her after the whole Tenrou Island incident, considering how irrelevant she became after that (so much her participation was reduced to Macao/Droy/Nab tier, and that's just sad).

If anything, her biggest contribution to the series was adding fuel to the pairing wars of the series with her relationship with Natsu, and that's was mostly due the anime adding original scenes of them together during their childhood and the fans adding more fuel to the fire due the pairing being "a menace" to the NaLu, one of the most popular couples of the series (a threat that never existed to begin with because, like I said previously, that was mostly a thing of the anime and Mashima never teased the NaLi as much as he did with the NaLu, maybe except for the scene when they are imprisoned in Tartaros's HQ, but just that as far as I remember).

I don't say she's a bad character, but there was no reason to "revive" her.