Fantasy (Human) Selene vs Eileen

[Loke]

Proof is August being unable to register what had transpired until Acno one shotted GS and reached far behind him. And shitting his pants subsequently

Serious Acno one shots Eileen.

Acno one shots every character in x792. Like that was the entire narrative, you see the dude, you have no choice but to somehow get away.

So you're ignoring Irene's own feats against Acno and downscaling her from Jesus August? I seem to recall him being severely injured by a simple knife whereas Irene took an enchanted blade to the skull and all it did was split her cap. This is faulty.

 

[Vex_Haid]

So you're ignoring Irene's own feats against Acno and downscaling her from Jesus August? I seem to recall him being severely injured by a simple knife whereas Irene took an enchanted blade to the skull and all it did was split her cap. This is faulty.

thats what he does, same goes for any other suzaku stan tbh, they are all just salty because suzaku will lose to team natsu soon so they made up some random BS saying "nooo because fairy tail team got powercreeped!!!" even tho carla and happys statement proves that they didnt (they are to scared to even respond to it tbh)

 

[grey matter]

So you're ignoring Irene's own feats against Acno and downscaling her from Jesus August? I seem to recall him being severely injured by a simple knife whereas Irene took an enchanted blade to the skull and all it did was split her cap. This is faulty.

Yeah, there is a difference between serious Acno with killing intent vs playful Acno looking to pass time.

What has August being stabbed by his ally off guard got to do with his inability to perceive an enemy? August's stats scale to Gildarts. Overwhelmed Gildarts in physical combat and tanked Gildarts strongest attack that bypassed his immunity with minor injuries.
Human Eileen's stats scale to Erza. Erza was keeping up solo against angry Eileen, after Wendy went down. So now Erza won't get one shot by Acno?

Jellal upstaged Eileen's feats against Acno, surely you don't think serious Acno can't one shot Jellal as well?

 

[Vex_Haid]

oh my god, people are still using erza keeping up with irene as an argument just so that they can wank there beloved suzaku by saying "suzaku destroyed erza while irene didnt"

ajeel literally had erza backed up in the corner with no plot involved, a single one of irenes enchanted berserkers sent erza flying back and made erza struggle alot

i guess that ajeel and 1 berserker>>>>>>irene now?

 

[Tirl]

with no plot involved

In fact, there was plot. She was unable to use her requip magic most of the battle because of Marin.
But yes, Irene nodiffs Erza without bs plot

 

[Loke]

Yeah, there is a difference between serious Acno with killing intent vs playful Acno looking to pass time.

What has August being stabbed by his ally off guard got to do with his inability to perceive an enemy? August's stats scale to Gildarts. Overwhelmed Gildarts in physical combat and tanked Gildarts strongest attack that bypassed his immunity with minor injuries.
Human Eileen's stats scale to Erza. Erza was keeping up solo against angry Eileen, after Wendy went down. So now Erza won't get one shot by Acno?

Jellal upstaged Eileen's feats against Acno, surely you don't think serious Acno can't one shot Jellal as well?

He wasn't trying to pass time though? He explicitly said he wasn't waiting for Zeref to complete his plans.

What does August not perceiving Acno have to do with AP? You brought up a speed feat when I was looking for something related to AP.

August stats scale to Gildarts in the form we saw him face him in. Jesus August is a proven glass.

I never said Irene one shots Acno, much less someone who scales to her? What are you even about here?

Jellal blocked Acno's attack, so I guess he can't one shot him? That was his chance and he blew it.

Let me clarify now, I understand this site wanks Acno but he was just as disappointing as Zeref in my book. So leave me out of it

 

[Vex_Haid]

In fact, there was plot. She was unable to use her requip magic most of the battle because of Marin.
But yes, Irene nodiffs Erza without bs plot

????? when tf was marin there? lmao, i am talking about when erza fought ajeel when alvarez invaded FT lol

yep, 1% of irenes power is 1M times above erzas, since even in wendys body (wendy only has 1% of her power) the berserkers that she enchanted (each one of them sent erza flying straight back and made her struggle) were still there, and when irene died they disappeared

1% of irenes MP is continental lmao since she was still able to hold U1 in wendys body

 

[sharkai]

Sure, Erza can do things that Gildarts can't. She can requip for example, that's her magic. Just like Natsu's magic is flame of emotion.

natsu magic is fire ds.

Except Deus Sema is literally featless as is Eileen's durability. You rank her tough because you want to rank Erza tough. You rank August weak because you don't want Gildarts to be as powerful. In short, you're a hypocrite.

but i can scale it with a help from eileen claw swipe. she hyped it no, this deus sema>>dragon eileen claw swipe

why do you keep on doing it. you know you are the hypocrite here

Literally just restating the manga.

just like ajeel>team natsu, ok

Dunno, depends what Selene tanks in the future. Can't imagine she can do much worse though lmao.

i know you always make situation such a way that head you win, tail i lose. of course afterwards mishma might bitch slap you but being actually correct has never been your thing

No, her story was that Dragons were too powerful, not that they couldn't hurt them without DS. The gap between them and humans was enormous, just like the gap between Mard and Tartaros Gray was enormous. Just like the gap between Eileen and Erza is enormous, Mashima makes this plainly obvious and we both know it.

that doesnt make sense.
so basically you are saying, difference between levy and natsu is too much. so levy can take natsu magic, and suddenly she is super effective against natsu.
entire eileen plot spoke nothing of dragon weakness. ds is just dragon magic, nothing more. dragon are resistant to normal magic, but ds magic damage them, as much as normal magic damages human

this huge different from demon slaying, because they dont have the same magic. in other words silver might even one shot mard, koyoka has no chances of beating mard

 

[grey matter]

He wasn't trying to pass time though? He explicitly said he wasn't waiting for Zeref to complete his plans.

Yea, and he asked her to offer him some amusement.
He had no killing intent against Eileen who he didn't recognize as a DS

What does August not perceiving Acno have to do with AP? You brought up a speed feat when I was looking for something related to AP.

Him keeping up with Gildarts in physical combat is a speed feat

August's speed and CQC is relative to Gildarts'

I never said Irene one shots Acno, much less someone who scales to her? What are you even about here?

??
I never claimed you did.

I asked you whether Erza wouldn't get one shot by Acno.

Jellal blocked Acno's attack, so I guess he can't one shot him? That was his chance and he blew it.

Yea troll face Acno won't.
Serious Acno 100% would one shot him instantly.

Let me clarify now, I understand this site wanks Acno but he was just as disappointing as Zeref in my book. So leave me out of it

He was disappointing lore vise, and as a villain.

Power level vise? Nah. He needed the entire continent's MP multiplied many times over + combined powers of 7 DS to be beaten.

Every character in the arc, from August to Eileen to even Zeref wanted to avoid a confrontation with him and simply run. For a reason you know? The entire Alverez combined is fodder to him. FH was their only chance to do anything against him

He was no diffing 7 DS prior to the continent's MP screwing him over as well, keeping them alive only because he needed them to stabilize his spirit realm.

 

[Vex_Haid]

Yea, and he asked her to offer him some amusement.
He had no killing intent against Eileen who he didn't recognize as a DS



Him keeping up with Gildarts in physical combat is a speed feat

August's speed and CQC is relative to Gildarts'



??
I never claimed you did.

I asked you whether Erza wouldn't get one shot by Acno.



Yea troll face Acno won't.
Serious Acno 100% would one shot him instantly.



He was disappointing lore vise, and as a villain.

Power level vise? Nah. He needed the entire continent's MP multiplied many times over + combined powers of 7 DS to be beaten.

He was no diffing 7 DS prior to the continent's MP screwing him over as well, keeping them alive only because he needed them to stabilize his spirit realm.

and plot

 

[Tirl]

????? when tf was marin there? lmao, i am talking about when erza fought ajeel when alvarez invaded FT lol

just for you xd

Spoiler

 

[grey matter]

just for you xd

Spoiler

Ajeel did vast majority of the damage after she was able to use requip though. In the grand scheme, this made little difference.

He didn't get serious until he found out that Erza was capable of harming him

 

[Tirl]

Ajeel did vast majority of the damage after she was able to use requip though. In the grand scheme, this made little difference.

He didn't get serious until he found out that Erza was capable of harming him

This is not the point. I just show him Marin

 

[Jko]

August wasn't shredded by Gildarts lmfao. Gildarts literally threw his best attack at August as a last ditch effort to win and August brushed it off with just a bloody lip and a smile. The on paper reason that August used Ars Magia was to get everyone of the battlefield so Zeref could easily obtain FH and the real reason was to kill August so he doesn't murderstomp Gild and the rest of FT. Hiro made 4 OP combatants then didn't know what to do with them ergo the reason 3 committed suicide and the fourth got a plot force arm to the face and shattered like glass. Gild didn't force August to do anything lol.

Spriggan downplay is in full effect I see. I can't wait for Brandish or Irene to do another OP feat just to be downplayed seconds later lol. A powercreep would actually mean the combatants are getting a lot stronger than the previous ones but nothing has actually suggests the top 2 S12s nor the top 2 god tiers have been yet lol.

Also lol at Human Acno tier for anyone in this thread, especially Laxus who is only equal to a non PoF Erza.

 

[Vex_Haid]

just for you xd

Spoiler

ajeel was still playing around even after all that

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August wasn't shredded by Gildarts lmfao. Gildarts literally threw his best attack at August as a last ditch effort to win and August brushed it off with just a bloody lip and a smile. The on paper reason that August used Ars Magia was to get everyone of the battlefield so Zeref could easily obtain FH and the real reason was to kill August so he doesn't murderstomp Gild and the rest of FT. Hiro made 4 OP combatants then didn't know what to do with them ergo the reason 3 committed suicide and the fourth got a plot force arm to the face and shattered like glass. Gild didn't force August to do anything lol.

Spriggan downplay is in full effect I see. I can't wait for Brandish or Irene to do another OP feat just to be downplayed seconds later lol. A powercreep would actually mean the combatants are getting a lot stronger than the previous ones but nothing has actually suggests the top 2 S12s nor the top 2 god tiers have been yet lol.

Also lol at Human Acno tier for anyone in this thread, especially Laxus who is only equal to a non PoF Erza.

Bold part = fax
Irene wont because she lost all of her magic, but brandish might will and she will dogshit on the black fodder slayer knights

the BDSK wank is insane lmao, people think that those 4 new clowns that are not gonna be doing anything in the next 2 or more arcs are stronger then base zeref who was there since the beginning

OT: irene one shots

 

[Seven777]

natsu magic is fire ds.



but i can scale it with a help from eileen claw swipe. she hyped it no, this deus sema>>dragon eileen claw swipe

why do you keep on doing it. you know you are the hypocrite here



just like ajeel>team natsu, ok



i know you always make situation such a way that head you win, tail i lose. of course afterwards mishma might bitch slap you but being actually correct has never been your thing




that doesnt make sense.
so basically you are saying, difference between levy and natsu is too much. so levy can take natsu magic, and suddenly she is super effective against natsu.
entire eileen plot spoke nothing of dragon weakness. ds is just dragon magic, nothing more. dragon are resistant to normal magic, but ds magic damage them, as much as normal magic damages human

this huge different from demon slaying, because they dont have the same magic. in other words silver might even one shot mard, koyoka has no chances of beating mard

Yeah, and the flames of emotion.

Uhuh, which is ranked as strong purely because it hurt Erza. Like I said, you rank Eileen strong because of feats against Erza and Erza strong because of feats against Eileen, while simultaneously ranking Gildarts weaker than PoF Erza due to feats against August and August weaker due to feats against Gildarts. It's a clear and obvious double standard. So you can cry bias or whatever all you like, but that's all you're doing, no substantiation, no explanation, you just cry bias because "everyone is against Erza" despite her being one of the most loved characters in the manga.

Nope.

I always win.

Of course it doesn't. DS magic "bypassing scale immunity" doesn't make sense either. Why would dragons be resistant to everyone but dragons?
Only Acnologia is immune to magic, only him, that's his thing and he can be hurt by pure physical strength like against Igneel. Dragons just have tough scales. DS magic provides the extra damage to overcome that toughness, just like with Gray vs Mard Geer, who couldn't be scratched by Natsu.
You're making a distinction in it's function that's not there and never stated. Gray likens DeS magic directly to DS magic. Even if the sources are different(which we don't know), the effects are the same. To begin with Elsferia doesn't have a dragons power, he just learned to use their magic. And he slew a dragon god. Silver is likely the same. But the bottom line is, Slayer magic is super effective, this has always been how Mashima described the magic.

 

[sharkai]

Yeah, and the flames of emotion.

and erza has black wing armor, your point?
if natsu can hit harder than erza, why the fuk cant erza hit harder than gildarts

Uhuh, which is ranked as strong purely because it hurt Erza. Like I said, you rank Eileen strong because of feats against Erza and Erza strong because of feats against Eileen, while simultaneously ranking Gildarts weaker than PoF Erza due to feats against August and August weaker due to feats against Gildarts. It's a clear and obvious double standard. So you can cry bias or whatever all you like, but that's all you're doing, no substantiation, no explanation, you just cry bias because "everyone is against Erza" despite her being one of the most loved characters in the manga.

stop being dumb. i can scale erza to laxus and laxus to gildarts. it not arbitrary to say eileen claw swipe will wreck gildarts based on that. after that eileen hyped her move, which by default means it is above her claw swipe.
august, just like human eileen has no power feat. you cant name one, non suicidal attack, that will take out erza tier characters.
on top of that he doesnt have any durability feat either. he relied solely on his hax.

if you want to see love. look at your self. jellal wreck (not defeat) someone far weaker than erza, and bam, in your mind he is above erza. that is love.

I always win.

no mishma wins. you just make an argument, in such a stupid way, that you yourself dont leave anyway to get disproven. it doesnt mean you are correct its just a micro tea cup behind the moon.
you always thought laxus was on different level than erza, then mishma went on to make him have an extreme diff with erza and ton of statement about laxus improved alot and sadly non for erza

Nope.

Of course it doesn't. DS magic "bypassing scale immunity" doesn't make sense either. Why would dragons be resistant to everyone but dragons?
Only Acnologia is immune to magic, only him, that's his thing and he can be hurt by pure physical strength like against Igneel. Dragons just have tough scales. DS magic provides the extra damage to overcome that toughness, just like with Gray vs Mard Geer, who couldn't be scratched by Natsu.
You're making a distinction in it's function that's not there and never stated. Gray likens DeS magic directly to DS magic. Even if the sources are different(which we don't know), the effects are the same. To begin with Elsferia doesn't have a dragons power, he just learned to use their magic. And he slew a dragon god. Silver is likely the same. But the bottom line is, Slayer magic is super effective, this has always been how Mashima described the magic.

sadly that is a big problem

apparently dragon slayer magic is super effective against dragons, ok.
we see someone around human eileen tier (?) one shotting dragon eileen, so obviously ds is that effective. (keep in mind dragon eileen can literally one shot erza tier characters)
but wait

we actually saw a dragon slayer fight a dragon in the last major arc.
aconlogia is as strong if not stronger than igneel.
igneel magic cant hurt aconologia
but for some fuking reason igneel still gave him a high diff fight.
its almost like ds advantage not even a thing

a simpler explanation would be, erza pof allowed her to hit above eileen deus sema level. so basiclly what happened to eileen was, she got hit by stronger move than her top tier move. something like bluenote gets hit by gildarts move that crushed his black hole, or jura gets hit by move stronger than his mt fuji thing.
eileen was wrecked in a way similiar to bluenote would be or jura would be after such a scenario

nothing i say is out of the blue. it is all in realm of possibilities. it saves eileen (one of mishma favorite mom) from becoming a total fodder you are trying to make her into. it saves aconologia hype (otherwise acno vs igneel would look like wahl vs laxus, with acno being wahl )

but no, you a non bias person are sure erza exploited eileen and her move weakness, even though nothing is mentioned in that freaking arc. (it totally impossible that erza used all her powers and huge amount of pof to do that)
meanwhile laxus definitely did not exploit wahl lightning weakness, even though that is literally in wahl character bio, in the same arc and his AI even says its cant recognize it (thus his converter or re-director shouldn't work correctly)
yep you are definitely not bias
and man, i have this island i own, its old, called Atlantis. i will to sell it to you for just 99,999.99$. just deposit the money in my account and i will email you the flying carpet to get there man. Cheers

 

[Seven777]

and erza has black wing armor, your point?
if natsu can hit harder than erza, why the fuk cant erza hit harder than gildarts



stop being dumb. i can scale erza to laxus and laxus to gildarts. it not arbitrary to say eileen claw swipe will wreck gildarts based on that. after that eileen hyped her move, which by default means it is above her claw swipe.
august, just like human eileen has no power feat. you cant name one, non suicidal attack, that will take out erza tier characters.
on top of that he doesnt have any durability feat either. he relied solely on his hax.

if you want to see love. look at your self. jellal wreck (not defeat) someone far weaker than erza, and bam, in your mind he is above erza. that is love.



no mishma wins. you just make an argument, in such a stupid way, that you yourself dont leave anyway to get disproven. it doesnt mean you are correct its just a micro tea cup behind the moon.
you always thought laxus was on different level than erza, then mishma went on to make him have an extreme diff with erza and ton of statement about laxus improved alot and sadly non for erza




sadly that is a big problem

apparently dragon slayer magic is super effective against dragons, ok.
we see someone around human eileen tier (?) one shotting dragon eileen, so obviously ds is that effective. (keep in mind dragon eileen can literally one shot erza tier characters)
but wait

we actually saw a dragon slayer fight a dragon in the last major arc.
aconlogia is as strong if not stronger than igneel.
igneel magic cant hurt aconologia
but for some fuking reason igneel still gave him a high diff fight.
its almost like ds advantage not even a thing

a simpler explanation would be, erza pof allowed her to hit above eileen deus sema level. so basiclly what happened to eileen was, she got hit by stronger move than her top tier move. something like bluenote gets hit by gildarts move that crushed his black hole, or jura gets hit by move stronger than his mt fuji thing.
eileen was wrecked in a way similiar to bluenote would be or jura would be after such a scenario

nothing i say is out of the blue. it is all in realm of possibilities. it saves eileen (one of mishma favorite mom) from becoming a total fodder you are trying to make her into. it saves aconologia hype (otherwise acno vs igneel would look like wahl vs laxus, with acno being wahl )

but no, you a non bias person are sure erza exploited eileen and her move weakness, even though nothing is mentioned in that freaking arc. (it totally impossible that erza used all her powers and huge amount of pof to do that)
meanwhile laxus definitely did not exploit wahl lightning weakness, even though that is literally in wahl character bio, in the same arc and his AI even says its cant recognize it (thus his converter or re-director shouldn't work correctly)
yep you are definitely not bias
and man, i have this island i own, its old, called Atlantis. i will to sell it to you for just 99,999.99$. just deposit the money in my account and i will email you the flying carpet to get there man. Cheers

He defeated Zeref specifically with flames of emotion.
Natsu is more powerful than Erza. As is Gildarts.

Lmao, scale Erza to Gildarts? Then how about you scale Gildarts to Erza then instead of this Erza>>>>Gildarts bullshit, huh? Why don't you scale August's durability to Eileen's, huh? Why the fuck would you scale Erza to Gildarts, her known superior, and not scale August to Eileen, her known equal? Oh... I know why, because you're a hypocrite.

I still win

Not really a problem, it was the same for END and Gray. DS magic is as important as Mashima wants it to be. In the Mard vs Gray fight and the Eileen vs Erza fight it was a convenient plot point to dispose of a overwhelmingly superior fighter. In the case of END and Igneel, not as much.

How is that a simpler explanation lmao? That Erza, the character specifically outlined as Eileen's inferior, hit above her? You really think Mashima wanted us to think Erza was stronger than Eileen? Hah, so friggin disingenuous. No. The simplest explanation is that Erza was to EIleen what Gray was to Mard Geer. Right up to blocking the strongest OP spells. Mard and EIleen were clearly the strongest, Erza and Gray simply had advantages.
Are biased people supposed to be easy to sell things? Your Atlantis joke doesn't really make sense.

 

[Vex_Haid]

0% irene>>>haku>human selene

whoever said human selene wins, just take the MASSIVE L

 

[Loke]

Selene still wins. Irene didn't do anything as per her own words. Plus still no answer to BFR.