Fantasy (Human) Selene vs Eileen

Who wins, and with what difficulty?


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Okay and how does that count? How does that help Erza from removing Irene from her dragon form and headbutting her to the extent she was choking blood?
Irene Enchantment plus whatever power of feeling and Wendy’s DS makes it so, remember even weakened Wendy could significantly hurt a fresh dragon that fresh Mira could not, DS is not stats boost, just makes it anathema to dragons, you still need stats which MP helps. Irene was physically weakened at that point and even then she still would be considered the winner if plot didn’t help.
 

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Only reason Selene is alive is because Ignia left her for dead. If he just attacks her again, she's a goner.

Selene just cuts down Irene's dragon form like Erza did. Even if she isnt dead, she'll be in no shape to take on a god dragon.

You know how we know Selene is stronger than Irene? Selene can still use magic in Edolas. Her very presence in Elentear can cause alta face to become strong enough to destroy the planet. She can flood a city from another dimension. Mercphobia sensing this concluded that she had more MP than both himself and Aldoron. Both Mercphobia and Aldoron are already leagues above Irene.
 

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Yeah, human form she can handle, not dragon form, alternate dimension is not really concrete distance to go off of since they could occupy similar locations In different universes, yeah, in their dragon forms.
 

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Much like Zeref versus Ignia, no one can argue for Irene versus Selene. His enchantments no matter how OP and messed up they will never work on God Tiers.
 

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Much like Zeref versus Ignia, no one can argue for Irene versus Selene. His enchantments no matter how OP and messed up they will never work on God Tiers.
Would still give it to Zeref considering because while nerfed knowing what he could do to Aldoron’s dragon form.
 

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Selene is a god tier, whereas Irene isn't. She has better hype, scaling and feats than Irene

The latter gets ripped apart, even if the former stays in human form
 

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I don't understand how people have comprehension problem.
Dragon gods=acnologia
Zeref and his s12 was not even hyped to acnologia level. The dragon gods have by far the best feats
Acnologia ate the space between time
Selene literally broke fT verse
Merchphobia casually flipped an ocean like it was nothing while stomping team natsu
Aldoron one shot brandish+gajeel in 3 minutes. Aldoron was fighting the whole guild plus jellal plus brandish. Accept the fact that the dragon gods are on acnologia level and stop this useless copuim
easy literally in chapter two
 

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Nerfed Zeref was the one that was damaging and going to kill a Dragon God, Acno is stronger than the rest of the Verse because of his broken Magic Immunity and eating powers which made him a god among god tiers. Aldoron was only fighting Natsu while the others fighting his other seeds.
 

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B-but Zeref and Irene were complimented by Acnologia let's see ! And Zeref damaged a DG !

Ignia who burns continents + Nerfed Merc who lifts the ocean + Selene who can BFR + Nerf Aldoron who destroys mountains >>> Any shit Spriggan have done.
 

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B-but Zeref and Irene were complimented by Acnologia let's see ! And Zeref damaged a DG !

Ignia who burns continents + Nerfed Merc who lifts the ocean + Selene who can BFR + Nerf Aldoron who destroys mountains >>> Any shit Spriggan have done.
base Zeref scales to world enders such as the Phoenix, and by comparison, correction, Ignia just burns lands, no mention of continents, destroying mountains is not that impressive in the long run.
 

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B-but Zeref and Irene were complimented by Acnologia let's see ! And Zeref damaged a DG !

Ignia who burns continents + Nerfed Merc who lifts the ocean + Selene who can BFR + Nerf Aldoron who destroys mountains >>> Any shit Spriggan have done.
Ignia have never stated to burn continents, countries tho. August and Irene aren't considered regular spriggans. Irene did effortlessly effect an entire country like it was nothing in human form. The most ranged spell in the original series. August could take a country off the map. Selene is stronger than Irene but this Human Selene. If it's true Suzaku is above Human Selene than Irene is too.
 

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Ignia have never stated to burn continents, countries tho. August and Irene aren't considered regular spriggans. Irene did effortlessly effect an entire country like it was nothing in human form. The most ranged spell in the original series. August could take a country off the map. Selene is stronger than Irene but this Human Selene. If it's true Suzaku is above Human Selene than Irene is too.
When Selene flexed her power, it breached dimensions and was causing havoc in Earthland.

Suzaku being able to beat her human form doesn't auto-scale to Irene, since those 2 never had a direct comparison
 

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Suzaku being able to beat her human form doesn't auto-scale to Irene, since those 2 never had a direct comparison
Simple logic. Bro this Eileen/Erza fans give me headaches with their lack of reasoning. How does suzaku being stronger than human selene means that Eileen is to? Eileen never being compared to any form of dg
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this doesn't look like a Dg level character to me
 

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When Selene flexed her power, it breached dimensions and was causing havoc in Earthland.

Suzaku being able to beat her human form doesn't auto-scale to Irene, since those 2 never had a direct comparison
It doesn’t matter if they never confronted each other directly, the scaling comes from his scaling to Hako who is weaker than Irene, so by transitive properties, Suzaku too is weaker than Irene.
 

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It doesn’t matter if they never confronted each other directly, the scaling comes from his scaling to Hako who is weaker than Irene, so by transitive properties, Suzaku too is weaker than Irene.
And why is Haku's durability and power output the same as Suzaku's (especially using his ultimate attack)?

Or better phrased, why are you scaling Haku's physicals to Suzaku's?
 
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And why is Haku's durability and power output the same as Suzaku's (especially using his ultimate attack)?

Or better phrased, why are you scaling Haku's physicals to Suzaku's?
Because he would have same/similar magic power levels as Suzaku, and mages bodies must have physical bodies strong enough to withstand said magic or it would overwhelm them.
 

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Because he would have same/similar magic power levels as Suzaku, and mages bodies must have physical bodies strong enough to withstand said magic or it would overwhelm them.
If that were the case, then no mage with lower MP would ever be able to overpower a mage with higher MP, but it isnt. Just look at Natsu oneshotting Jacob and Enchanced Nienhart

Also, if Haku was just as durable and strong as Suzaku + had hax on top of that, then why would they be portrayed to be in the same tier? Haku would then just be more powerful than Suzaku overall

Also, where was this stated to be the case?
 
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If that were the case, then no mage with lower MP would ever be able to overpower a mage with higher MP, but it isnt. Just look at Natsu oneshotting Jacob and Enchanced Nienhart

Also, if Haku was just as durable and strong as Suzaku + had hax on top of that, then why would they be portrayed to be in the same tier? Haku would then just be more powerful than Suzaku overall

Also, where was this stated to be the case?
Jacob was not exactly in a position to fight back and Enhanced Neinhart doesn’t scale to his physical stats since it stated to outstrip his limits. Look at Invel against Natsu who he could freeze him and his flames. That is the think, versatility is important in a group, Suzaku is a swordsman while Haku like to transform things. Since Tenrou Arc with Ultear’s back story and with Irene being inside Wendy’s body.
 

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Jacob was not exactly in a position to fight back and Enhanced Neinhart doesn’t scale to his physical stats since it stated to outstrip his limits. Look at Invel against Natsu who he could freeze him and his flames. That is the think, versatility is important in a group, Suzaku is a swordsman while Haku like to transform things. Since Tenrou Arc with Ultear’s back story and with Irene being inside Wendy’s body.
Jacob was still oneshotted, and Neinhart's physical body wasn't overwhelmed by the power.

Again, where was this 'rule' stated?
 
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