Anime Hunter X Hunter Anime- Fall 2011

[ZonikStrike]

But there are at least two panels where Hanzo smacks Gon and I was
looking forward to those. I don't think either this or the 1999 series
does it justice. We don't see the smack here and in the 1999 it
looks like a pansy slap if not for the sound effect and Gon's reaction.

Huh? Are you talking about the first panels in this page? http://i34.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/33/hunter-x-hunter-323922.jpg
They showed the hit. Well, it was kinda gentle, but I don't think that was a censorship issue. http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2378/hitto.png
Anime didn't miss a bit. Manga had few hits as well.

 

[CrimsonChaos]

But there are at least two panels where Hanzo smacks Gon and I was
looking forward to those. I don't think either this or the 1999 series
does it justice. We don't see the smack here and in the 1999 it
looks like a pansy slap if not for the sound effect and Gon's reaction.

I don't know u watch the Hunter episode 19 version that I'm watching or not because if u mean smack in the head [ one of the panel], it does show on 10:00, but as u may see it not "super" smack just a push smack techniques on Gon's head that crack Gon's head *0* [If anyone have a Gif for this it would be cool to see in motion]

And another panel that u said was the pushing panels and heading to an arm breaker , The 2011 anime just change into a "kick to leg" drop which I think it's not much of a differences in this one really :S

I think the First attack that Hanzo did to Gon was really cool, a smack to the neck , If anyone have that Gif, i would be appreciate xD

I was worried about that too. But then thinking about it...Isn't it mostly Gon that hits Hisoka and then Hisoka lands a few good hits on Gon?

For those of you who was worried about how bad the censorship will be or Is the fight that u are waiting for going to be that good , I can say that one of the first cruel, bloody fight would be at Chapter 53+54.

It is when Hisoka vs "You know who" [before Gon fight] , I wonder how the anime going to handled that scene(will the anime be consistent? or willl they change the attack pattern? and how about the outcome?) xD and I think it's going to be the first scene toward darkness of the atmosphere *0*

Ps. If that episode is really impressed or acceptable , I think the rest after that should not be that disappointing xD perhaps we will see it at Episode 29 *0* 10 episode countdown ^O^

 

[Uriel]

I couldn't resist to make a poll. I think we're at the point of making somewhat our minds.

 

[Crude]

I was a little disappointed with this episode. On the one hand it was faithful to the manga, minus the censoring which to be honest I didn't really notice (well the arm breaking scene might have tipped me off). On the other hand the fight wasn't nearly as epic as the one in the old anime. Yeah the fight in the old anime was pretty over the top, but it was also one of the greatest scenes in the anime. The animation was great and the added filler made the fight all the more awesome. I love it when studios add a little more to fights, like Studio Pierrot did with the Shikamaru vs Hidan fight in Naruto Shippuuden. Anyway, this was in no way a bad episode, it simply just wasn't as awesome and epic a fight as the one in the old anime.

I've got two screen captions of determined Gon here if anyone wants them. They're basically the same image with only slight differences (in the anime it was one image panning upwards):

Spoiler

Spoiler

 

[Pokymonn]

Unmistaken they were when they said the tongue was boneless. The majority of people who expressed their opinions on today's episode nagged when material was skipped, but now when they receive what they have been waiting for - that particular flawlessly adapted episode, they are still unsatisfied. Do me the favour, you user, of comparing the manga with the anime before commenting here, because you embarass yourself, act ignorant and create a chain reaction of stupidity.

 

[Noonealive]

Unmistaken they were when they said the tongue was boneless. The majority of people who expressed their opinions on today's episode nagged when material was skipped, but now when they receive what they have been waiting for - that particular flawlessly adapted episode, they are still unsatisfied. Do me the favour, you user, of comparing the manga with the anime before commenting here, because you embarass yourself, act ignorant and create a chain reaction of stupidity.

Yeah in a persons eye's who hasn't seen anything but the new version seem to enjoy it. It's just the fact that people who watch the older one makes them want to do comparisons. I like how the series has been adapted, and my friend who's completely new to anime seems to enjoy it as well. We just have to enjoy the series with fresh eyes, and for people who has seen the older one it's pretty hard to do.

 

[heron bpv]

The chapter was really nice. Fit's perfectly with what is in the manga, plus what Uriel said before, about how you really feel empaty for Gon here.
On side note, my first contact with HxH came with the old anime (aired in a public tv channel here, not so long ago), and I watched it at first because I already knew it was one of Trollgashi's work (as a Yu Yu Hakusho fan since I was a child, I couldn't lose the opportunity =]). I really enjoyed it back then, and because of that I started looking for the manga, which ended being one of the most amazing stories I ever read. I believe I'm not the only one around here with a similar experience, which adds to the point that one of the greatest advantages the new anime brings is raising the popularity of the series, which is good for us all. And though of course there where some changes in the new anime, there where changes in the old one as well. Fillers included. So I can't really see the point of people hating this new one for the same reasons they (usually) love the old. So please, keep those in things in mind before making a judgement (and voting, of course ^^).

 

[Host Samurai]

Unmistaken they were when they said the tongue was boneless. The majority of people who expressed their opinions on today's episode nagged when material was skipped, but now when they receive what they have been waiting for - that particular flawlessly adapted episode, they are still unsatisfied. Do me the favour, you user, of comparing the manga with the anime before commenting here, because you embarass yourself, act ignorant and create a chain reaction of stupidity.

Everyone is entitled to express their opinion and when the majority of the people don't like the episode for various reasons then it's they right to do it. And you can't seriously expect from all the users, who "nagged" to do a weekly comparison of the content of the anime with the source material. It's not the users, who proclaimed that this anime adaption will be close to the source material, it's Madhouse. If you still feel annoyed by this then you'll have no choice but to accept their different views about it.

Yeah in a persons eye's who hasn't seen anything but the new version seem to enjoy it. It's just the fact that people who watch the older one makes them want to do comparisons. I like how the series has been adapted, and my friend who's completely new to anime seems to enjoy it as well. We just have to enjoy the series with fresh eyes, and for people who has seen the older one it's pretty hard to do.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. Some people don't understand that as long as this new adaption hasn't reached the Chimera Ant Arc. Comparisons between these two adaption will be inevitable. Because many people already enjoyed the older one and didn't feel the need of a complete remake, due to that, they're watching this new adaption with a watchful eye instead of simply enjoying it. And that is the hard thing for us to do due to the Nostalgia of the old anime (I'm talking about my personal experience here).

 

[Noonealive]

The chapter was really nice. Fit's perfectly with what is in the manga, plus what Uriel said before, about how you really feel empaty for Gon here.
On side note, my first contact with HxH came with the old anime (aired in a public tv channel here, not so long ago), and I watched it at first because I already knew it was one of Trollgashi's work (as a Yu Yu Hakusho fan since I was a child, I couldn't lose the opportunity =]). I really enjoyed it back then, and because of that I started looking for the manga, which ended being one of the most amazing stories I ever read. I believe I'm not the only one around here with a similar experience, which adds to the point that one of the greatest advantages the new anime brings is raising the popularity of the series, which is good for us all. And though of course there where some changes in the new anime, there where changes in the old one as well. Fillers included. So I can't really see the point of people hating this new one for the same reasons they (usually) love the old. So please, keep those in things in mind before making a judgement (and voting, of course ^^).

Yes i agree with you totally. To be frank i watched the animated series about 4 years ago and oh my did i enjoy it. It's one of those series that leaves an impression on you. Ever since, Hunter x Hunter has always been in the back of my mind. It's rare to see series being re-made and for that fact I'm glad HxH has come back. No matter the flaws people may think it has, we all should be glad that it's being animated again. As the series progresses I'm positive it'll bring a bigger fan-base. I honestly didn't read the manga up until about a month ago, I seriously couldn't stop reading it even if i wanted to. It's a great manga and the re-make will certainly show it greatness.

 

[Crude]

The chapter was really nice. Fit's perfectly with what is in the manga, plus what Uriel said before, about how you really feel empaty for Gon here.
On side note, my first contact with HxH came with the old anime (aired in a public tv channel here, not so long ago), and I watched it at first because I already knew it was one of Trollgashi's work (as a Yu Yu Hakusho fan since I was a child, I couldn't lose the opportunity =]). I really enjoyed it back then, and because of that I started looking for the manga, which ended being one of the most amazing stories I ever read. I believe I'm not the only one around here with a similar experience, which adds to the point that one of the greatest advantages the new anime brings is raising the popularity of the series, which is good for us all. And though of course there where some changes in the new anime, there where changes in the old one as well. Fillers included. So I can't really see the point of people hating this new one for the same reasons they (usually) love the old. So please, keep those in things in mind before making a judgement (and voting, of course ^^).

I also started out as a fan of Yu Yu Hakusho. I remember browsing a YYH fan site one day and discovering that Togashi had another, newer series. I saw a picture of Gon and was instantly intrigued and that's how I got into HxH, I've been a fan since I was 13 . I love both anime adaptations, perhaps the new one more since it made me like the characters a whole lot more. I really like how the new anime stays close to the manga, but at the same time I really like the filler that the old anime added (especially during the Hunter Exam arc).

 

[Pokymonn]

Everyone is entitled to express their opinion and when the majority of the people don't like the episode for various reasons then it's they right to do it..

I value others' opinions and not mistakes. The fact that some users kept blabbering about this episode being censored, despite being almost the coloured version of the manga chapters that were adapted, is wrong in so many ways.
In addition, while the older adaptation did a great job at extending the fight it pictured Hanzo as more of a fool than he actually looked during this match. As a human, I admit that I have felt the emotional impact, but it was overdone with the price of distorting the characters.

btw I am not annoyed, at least on the internet

 

[mrsticky005]

Huh? Are you talking about the first panels in this page? http://i34.mangareader.net/hunter-x-hunter/33/hunter-x-hunter-323922.jpg
They showed the hit. Well, it was kinda gentle, but I don't think that was a censorship issue. http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2378/hitto.png
Anime didn't miss a bit. Manga had few hits as well.

Yes that is what I'm talking about and yes it IS a censorship issue.
Gon would not be in that kind of pain from a gentle slap.
The slap in the manga is clearly violent and forceful.

---------- Post added at 07:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:31 PM ----------

I don't know u watch the Hunter episode 19 version that I'm watching or not because if u mean smack in the head [ one of the panel], it does show on 10:00, but as u may see it not "super" smack just a push smack techniques on Gon's head that crack Gon's head *0* [If anyone have a Gif for this it would be cool to see in motion]

And another panel that u said was the pushing panels and heading to an arm breaker , The 2011 anime just change into a "kick to leg" drop which I think it's not much of a differences in this one really :S

I think the First attack that Hanzo did to Gon was really cool, a smack to the neck , If anyone have that Gif, i would be appreciate xD



For those of you who was worried about how bad the censorship will be or Is the fight that u are waiting for going to be that good , I can say that one of the first cruel, bloody fight would be at Chapter 53+54.

It is when Hisoka vs "You know who" [before Gon fight] , I wonder how the anime going to handled that scene(will the anime be consistent? or willl they change the attack pattern? and how about the outcome?) xD and I think it's going to be the first scene toward darkness of the atmosphere *0*

Ps. If that episode is really impressed or acceptable , I think the rest after that should not be that disappointing xD perhaps we will see it at Episode 29 *0* 10 episode countdown ^O^

It shows it but uses clever editing to not actually show it. The manga clearly shows a violent slap. However the 2011 anime does not show the actual
slapping and the 1999 had a pansy slap. The scene is not animated as how the manga depicts with it being a quick and yet brutal slap to Gon's ear.

I'm fine with this one. It got the point across.

This one was also alright in how it was shown but the manga does depict it as a quick and yet brutal karate chop to the back of the neck.

I'm not worried about Hisoka vs

Spoiler

Kastro

.
I'm worried they are going to be too afraid to show Gon getting hit.

---------- Post added at 07:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:39 PM ----------

I value others' opinions and not mistakes. The fact that some users kept blabbering about this episode being censored, despite being almost the coloured version of the manga chapters that were adapted, is wrong in so many ways.
In addition, while the older adaptation did a great job at extending the fight it pictured Hanzo as more of a fool than he actually looked during this match. As a human, I admit that I have felt the emotional impact, but it was overdone with the price of distorting the characters.

btw I am not annoyed, at least on the internet

I'm not blabbering. The episode was censored. I explained how the manga shows Hanzo hitting Gon three times.
Now if you wish to argue that it does not then please explain how it does not show Hanzo hitting Gon three times.
Or if you think the episode did show it then explain that. But don't just say the episode wasn't censoring
and those who say it is are blabbering. I compared the manga and the 2011 anime and from what I see
the manga does show three hits while the anime skips them.

 

[Beans]

I don't know about censorship but I remember they had no problem showing this :

 

[mrsticky005]

I don't know about censorship but I remember they had no problem showing this :

Yes. So why not show Hanzo slapping Gon? Instead of just pushing his head?


I dunno. Perhaps I'm nitpicking here. But I was just looking forward to seeing some real action.

 

[MegamanX195]

I very much enjoyed this episode. Whenever I first watch the episode of the 2011 series alone, I watch it with watchful eyes and hate myself for doing that, instead of simply enjoying it. I enjoy it that way too, but simply watching it for enjoyment is hard when watching it the first time around. When watching it the second time with my friend and my brother, I can actually enjoy it, and that's where my opinion comes from.

It was basically EXACTLY like the manga. The other poster commented on the brutality of the slap, but honestly, I really liked the new anime's slap. It was really smooth, looked like some kind of ninja move. And Gon's head wasn't shaking due to the slap's strenght, it was because of the previous attack strenght. ANYTHING Hanzo did to Gon's head would have made it hurt as hell.

And on the censorship, ironically, it made the anime more like the manga. Showed virtually no direct hits. I just remembered that on the Japanese version of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, a torture scene in the Japanese (original) version had to be altered to, instead of showing shock torture, they had "ticking rods" (no joke), and that was a T rated game. Apparently, they have problems with torture and, if you ask me, Hanzo's fight with Gon was nothing short of torture.

9.5/10, if I had to rate it. The only thing which could be improved would be some slightly better use of the music (I think the ninja music should have stopped when Gon pointed the blade to Gon's head), but no big deal. Oh, and the lack of Gon's scream when Hanzo broke his arm, too.

 

[mrsticky005]

I very much enjoyed this episode. Whenever I first watch the episode of the 2011 series alone, I watch it with watchful eyes and hate myself for doing that, instead of simply enjoying it. I enjoy it that way too, but simply watching it for enjoyment is hard when watching it the first time around. When watching it the second time with my friend and my brother, I can actually enjoy it, and that's where my opinion comes from.

It was basically EXACTLY like the manga. The other poster commented on the brutality of the slap, but honestly, I really liked the new anime's slap. It was really smooth, looked like some kind of ninja move. And Gon's head wasn't shaking due to the slap's strenght, it was because of the previous attack strenght. ANYTHING Hanzo did to Gon's head would have made it hurt as hell.

And on the censorship, ironically, it made the anime more like the manga. Showed virtually no direct hits. I just remembered that on the Japanese version of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, a torture scene in the Japanese (original) version had to be altered to, instead of showing shock torture, they had "ticking rods" (no joke), and that was a T rated game. Apparently, they have problems with torture and, if you ask me, Hanzo's fight with Gon was nothing short of torture.

9.5/10, if I had to rate it. The only thing which could be improved would be some slightly better use of the music (I think the ninja music should have stopped when Gon pointed the blade to Gon's head), but no big deal. Oh, and the lack of Gon's scream when Hanzo broke his arm, too.

Do please realize that when I say it's censored that I am comparing it to the manga
and not the 1999 series which added stuff. The 2011 series is indeed much closer
to the manga but as I explained it did not animate the three hits. Perhaps this wasn't
actually censorship but just lack of animation. But either way I'm disappointed.

Anywho yes it WAS due to the strength of the slap. I'm not sure if Gon's head was supposed to be shaking but his vision was going awry due to the slap. In the manga
we see Hanzo slap Gon on the ear or at least side of the head. Gon's immediate
response is one of confusion and shock followed quickly by a bit of dizziness.

The reason why Gon is becoming dizzy is because of the slap to the ear.
Of course the karate chop to the back of the neck is sure to have an
effect as well. But the immediate reaction of confusion shock and dizziness
right after the slap to the ear shows how it affected Gon.

Now the reason why Gon becomes dizzy is because your inner ear is
what affects your sense of balance. Hanzo's slap disrupted this
sense of balance by striking Gon's ear or side of head (it doesn't
really matter since it would be close enough to the ear.)
With his sense of balance out of wack Gon would be confused
and due to the violent nature of the slap Gon would be in shock.

I would also give it a 9.5/10 because I would have liked it better if the slap and karate chop were actually animated.

I thought the music was great.

 

[chikkychappy]

i also used to say, "you better watch this anime as if you've never seen it before." but i realized that this is such a low standard to hold on to. that's basically telling me to look at the story & characters more, how this event will lead to the next, what's going to happen next, etc, while the production values become nothing but an afterthought.

but why should that be the standard i should judge the series i already like to begin with? i like hxh and i've been a fan for 10 years, of course i'd enjoy the story! unless the adaptation is even worse than GI Final, then the strength of the story would always shine through despite mediocre direction. this kind of thinking is also giving too much leeway to madhouse, who's milking the shit out of a great series while barely making any effort at making it good.

but in any case, let me just say that madhouse is definitely bringing new people into the series and for that i'm thankful. but again, that has to do more with the good source material. for madhouse's part, they did very little to enhance the viewing experience.


anyway, yeah, episode 19 wasn't good. can't even get the background right. looking at the credits, it was outsourced to koreans too (why oh why? this is the episode that gon becomes a hunter. they should have given this episode more importance!) i hope next ep is better, but that blinding background would still be a distraction.

 

[Pokymonn]

I'm not blabbering. The episode was censored. I explained how the manga shows Hanzo hitting Gon three times.

Interpret those frames the way you want, but for me it seems like a hit shown from different angles. Therefore I'm fully satisfied.

Moreover, in order to criticise your attempts of affirming that this episode was censored, I'd like to point out that even though the direction of that scene was slightly changed, the outcome is more brutal than it may seem at first glance. Believe me that forcefully pushing one's head towards their shoulder is more painful than the way in which Hanzo slapped him in the manga. In order to understand my point, I'd suggest checking the arm movement of Hanzo in the anime which is oriented downards while pushing Gon's head and the way he does it in the manga, where his action resembles a simple and powerful linear hit. Obviously the pain from the action inflicted in the anime will diminish slower, if compared to the same scene in the manga.

 

[mrsticky005]

Interpret those frames the way you want, but for me it seems like a hit shown from different angles. Therefore I'm fully satisfied.

Moreover, in order to criticise your attempts of affirming that this episode was censored, I'd like to point out that even though the direction of that scene was slightly changed, the outcome is more brutal than it may seem at first glance. Believe me that forcefully pushing one's head towards their shoulder is more painful than the way in which Hanzo slapped him in the manga. In order to understand my point, I'd suggest checking the arm movement of Hanzo in the anime which is oriented downards while pushing Gon's head and the way he does it in the manga, where his action resembles a simple and powerful linear hit. Obviously the pain from the action inflicted in the anime will diminish slower, if compared to the same scene in the manga.

Perhaps you are right with the pushing being more painful. I wouldn't know myself.

I was just expecting more animation. But that was probably too much to expect.

Oh well. It was a good episode. Actually I'm liking it more and more now that
I am able to get past the lack of animation at those parts. I still say it
was censored or at least dialed down a notch but it's not as bad as I first thought.

 

[Beans]

I think they animated the hits, but the Chanel that airs the series censored them, just like some wrestling shows.