Fun Hunter x Hunter Hangout Thread [01]

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I think it was implied that nanika can grant ur wish but it maybe in a screwed way. Like the story of the the butler who wanted to be a billionaire and ended up having raining with money but a plane crashed, I interpreted it as the money could be related to the plain quite directly.

And @phan hunters are selfish. Most characters in the story are selfish doing their own stuff, pursuing own interests, while taking advantage of certain privellages, some of them eventually contribute to the society but that comes after,in fact there wil probably be only few hunters that aren't like that hakoware guy and shoot,
 

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When the butler wished to be a millionaire he got the standard zenny unit of currency, not say the money from the country Meryem took over (which trades something like 40000 to 1 to zenny). The airship did not crash. It just dropped the money and then went on its way.

The whole point is that Nanika is benevalent and people are cursed by their own greed. She's not trying to screw you up by misinterpreting your wishes. Teleportation doesn't end up with the charred remains of somebody that's been hurled across space at light speed. Talking about the drawbacks of the wishes is literally reading stuff that isn't there. Even in the wish/pestering model, the drawback always goes to the next person unfortunate enough to have to do pesterings and the only drawback would be if you're related to the next guy in some way due to the chain effect on failing.

Ilumi flat out says Alluka is invinicible (and it never occurred to him that Killua can turn this invinicibility around against him). Whatever theoractical weakness is irrelevent when you can just reuse wishes to come up with a set of conditions that renders any attempt to harm ineffective.

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I think people drink the Ilumi cool-aid as in since Ilumi apparently looks like he has everything under control it clearly isn't very hard to deal with Alluka. Ilumi is basically insane when it comes to Killua. He for some reason believes Killua loves him the most and won't harm him, and even if he dies he sees this as a way to cement his influence on Killua. So he is both fearless and insane to the point even Hisoka thinks he's kind of messed up, so he has no fear while scheming against the equivalent of an all-powerful God.

Note that Silva canceled the lookout order after finding out Alluka's power here:
http://www.mangapanda.com/hunter-x-hunter/336/19

He doesn't know Killua made a wish to seal Alluka's power at this point (Killua made all the butlers leave). He did this before he is a normal (relatively) person who quickly came to the conclusion that because Alluka is completely unstoppable, Killua must be trustworthy because he can circumvent any effort made by the family to contain Alluka once he reached her. In fact, this highlights how ridiculous this whole conflict was. Had Killua told the truth while he was inside the room, Silva would've let him go because he knows you cannot fight God. This wouldn't stop Ilumi, who is insane, but Silva would probably tell Killua that his brother is insane enough to challenge a God so he shouldn't be so wishy-washy with Alluka and just wish for something that can definitely stop an insane man who wanted to fight God.
 

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There are 'commands' Killua needed to use for this arc regardless of how it happened:

1. Cure Gon. (we know he can't possibly pay back the pestering cost for such a wish)
2. Prevent Nanika from coming back again. (by definition you wouldn't need to pay anything back after that so might as well be a command)

Killua firmly believes Alluka will only be safe if Nanika is gone. So after asking for a ridiculous free wish his next wish basically is 'thanks for coming but goodbye forever'. And then he argue about not wanting to use Nanika like a tool? Does having a minor wish like teleport somehow makes Nanika feel better when Killua tells her to never come back? If you say it matters then Killua must be one of the biggest hypocrite I've seen, and he's not supposed to be such a character. All along he's been someone who is definitely willing to accept sacrifices to get things done. If he was planning to dump Nanika at the end anyway (since this is the only way he thinks his family will leave him alone) then he's already accepting the fact that Nanika is a neat tool for him to get free wishes that he's going to drop as soon as the last big wish is done (cure Gon). There's no point to go through all the needless danger (Ilumi was trying to kill Alluka, which is clearly something that could've worked) just to score 5 more affection points with Nanika before banishing her to the void.

I just noticed one of the really crazy things in this arc. After curing Gon, Killua went ahead and told him everything about Alluka, including the fact that he has unlimited wishes, because clearly Gon is trustworthy even though Gon is a guy who randomly blew off Killua whenever he feels like it. On the other hand, Killua is unable to share this secret with his father, Silva, who is a role model father not only in HXH but possibly across all manga. This is despite the fact that Silva called off the lookout order after knowing Alluka's power. Killua also notes that Silva also still thought of Alluka as a daughter by the toys, and Silva tipped off the fact that Ilumi was willing to kill Alluka. Had he simply tell the truth to his father, Silva would've said something like, "Son, your brother isn't someone to be reasoned with so you better make a command powerful enoguh to make sure he can't attempt to kill Alluka or brainwash you", and there are any number of possible commands that can do this rather easily with Alluka's power. So all this is self-inflicted because Killua cannot trust his father, who has done everything possible to help his son. Contrast this to Gon, who admires and trusts Ging unconditoinally even though Ging abandoned him when he was a baby, and had a deathtrap waiting for him in Greed Island with Razor.
 

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respond for togashi's bad drawing laziness and hiatsu
i didn't understand the lyrics but i laughed
 
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The muscular guy is supposed to be an editor from Jump.

The picture with Gon crying had a caption that was something along the lines of "I was a fool to believe HXH would be a weekly"
 

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The muscular guy is supposed to be an editor from Jump.

The picture with Gon crying had a caption that was something along the lines of "I was a fool to believe HXH would be a weekly"
lol I wonder what Togashi thinks about his own Hiatus. I know that he doesnt have any reason to feel guilty, but a year-long cliffhanger is really annoying xD
 

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Yeah, but at least he managed to finish an arc and then give a "preview" for the next one, it seems.

I've managed to get into Magi and after catching up on the anime it's time for me to marathon the manga in the meantime.
 

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respond for togashi's bad drawing laziness and hiatsu
i didn't understand the lyrics but i laughed
Togashi:Just as planned.(death note reference) XD
Even though I don't understand japanese,I actually found it funny.
 
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Hisoka all the way!

My difficult choice was between Hisoka and Killua...
 

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Yeah, I ended up going with Hisoka for best villain, and Killua for best male character. They're both really great characters. :hip
 

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That's Togashi alright. He's like an abusive boyfriend you just can't let go (sorry if this joke's a little too much).
 

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That's Togashi alright. He's like an abusive boyfriend you just can't let go (sorry if this joke's a little too much).
Couldnt be more true.
Damn Togashi
 
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