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(Can you tell me in what chapter Melody is sure Kurapika would kill her? That wouldn't make any sense for me since he is capable of much but he's not Sasuke 😅)
Yeah, was wondering if I'd forgotten that or something.
 

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I don't have the chapter number but that was when he was trying to get hired by the Nostrade. Once he told her that he was a Kuruta he asked her if she would reveal his secret and she said no because she doesn't want to die.
 

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Ah, the heartbeat line. Thought he meant that Kurapika actually said it.

edit: regardless, Kurapika isn't the same person now as he was at that point.
 
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I feel hxh is pretty realistic by not letting it's characters have a black or white morality.
Oito is also not on a morally higher tier than others. She basically sold herself for fame and fortune - and now regrets it. You should also not underestimate the feelings that come along with motherhood - seeing another child getting killed does affect her of course and Momoze is even Woble's halfsister. Mito might have reacted the same (even tho she's not a mother by biology).
Furthermore helping Momoze would have ended for her either being locked up as a culprit for her death, being locked up for violating the rules to not enter the chamber or being killed too - there is nothing she could have done (neither her guards).

Speaking of her wanting to save Momoze is also not morally better for me than Gon jumping after a random sailor on the way to the exam. He risked his own life for a stranger and he probably didn't have to. Also in the same moment he was saved by Leorio and Kurapika who interupted their fight to help - I think none of them calculated to get benefits from that concerning the exam.

Melody's goal is to save the world from the sonata that killed her friend and cursed herself - she's not intending to get it to be transformed back to her true form if i remember right.

Chrollo as a child lived for values of equal access and participation - he did nothing for himself and still doesn't by sacrificing himself to keep the children of Meteor City safe. Of course the path he took is far from being morally right but at least he doesn't act for selfish reasons and tries to create a better world.

Sheila resisted joining the dark side because it's most likely contradicting her moral compass and she gave her dearest treasure away to thank others for saving her life.
There is definitely more to it but for what we know so far she has high moral standards.

Just a few examples why i personally wouldn't value Oito higher in that regard than others.

(Can you tell me in what chapter Melody is sure Kurapika would kill her? That wouldn't make any sense for me since he is capable of much but he's not Sasuke
I think Oito is. She did mistakes in the past, but what she did with Momoze is exactly why she is moral.
Her biggest motivation is saving Woble, so motherhood and protecting her child.
But she endangered her own child to save someone who is her enemy (Momoze).

I don't any other HxH character acted against their own interest like that, leave alone to that extent.
Some of the other characters have good goals, but they are all connected to their personal story.
Melody was hurt, so she wants to hunt for the sonate.
But that is a personal motivation, not morality.

The only hunter who (we know) hunts for a moral goal is Leorio. His motivation is connected to his backstory, but he legit actually wants to study to save people as a doctor and he understands that this is not just connected to him wanting to be a good doctor, but also to money. Leorio understands there is a bad system in this world and he wants to act to make it a little a better. That is a moral stance.

Melody does not want anything like that. Melody does not use her ability for the good of the world or anything like that. Melody is not standing in an Emergency Room to tell doctors about whether anyone's heart sounds funny. Melody hunts for something that, let's face it, is not going to kill a lot of people if you need to hunt for it to find it.

Aside from Leorio, I do not think there is a single hunter who ever intended to use his abilities for the good of humanity as his biggest motivation. Some hunters do good, but they tend to do it because it interests them.
Kurapika killing the spider would probably be a good thing for humanity, but that is not why he does it. He does it because they hurt him.

And I think what Oito did is far more of a moral stance than Gon jumping after a sailor. Gon is a daredevil and was pretty sure kurapika and leorio would catch him. He endangers himself for fun all the time and is insanely strong. He did it because he felt like it.
Oito is a woman scared out of her mind, surrounded by monsters with the life of her baby on the line and she still saves an enemy under the risk of her and her babies life.
 

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One thing that is consistent about the HxH world is that characters do not take moral stances at all. They do have varying moralities (It is a problem for gon to kill someone in cold blood, it is much less of a problem for killua), but it is insanely rare for hxh characters to go "This is amoral and you should not do it". One of the very few characters who actually does that is Oito. Oito wants to save Momoze even tho that makes her own death (and woble's) more likely and she calls Kurapika out for thinking differently. And I think Kurapika likes that a lot.

Even when thinking about it, it is hard to come up with more examples. There are displays of comradeship and saving your friends and loyalty and stuff, but that is not the same. These are personal stances, like gon/biscuit/killua saving Genthru. But Gon would not call someone out for not doing that. Gon does call out the spider for being hypocrites, but that is also not really a moral stance. He is mad at them for judging kurapika when they are murderers themselves. That is more Gon protecting his friend. if anything, gon's POV here is that people shouldnt judge others if they do something themselves. But that is not the same as "killing is wrong" or anything like that. Gon does not have much of a problem with hisoka, because hisoka doesnt mind when others come for his throat. Almost all HxH characters accept the amorality around them as normal. Leorio is half an exception. He does have some moral viewpoints (he dedicates his life to saving other people), but his moral is a little whimsical because he has many flaws. But he could turn out to have a strong moral stance in the future. But aside from Oito and maybe Leorio, really, i cannot see anyone else whose moral goes beyond their own stance and extends to the world around them. At all

And that is not just a normal shonen manga thing. In OP or Naruto, you see lots of characters holding speeches about this or that being morally wrong. And they often take active part in stopping that from happening. Moral discussions are quite common in shonen manga. Deathnote had moral questions, for example. Neverland too (ray's way or emma's way). Of course manga like dragonball are not deep about that, but Goku still would call out injustice around him we he sees it. Gon might do that, too, but he hardly goes out of his way to do it. In general, the world of HxH lives by "anything goes" and hardly ever judges to a larger extent than "i dont like that", unless it is a personal issue for them.

Oito is the first character to raise a moral point strongly and against her own interest and I think that is notable. She is the first character to fight against the deep cynicism in the HxH world and she meets Kurapika at a point where he thinks of himself as a monster. I think Kurapika is the one other character who REALLY wants to be moral but thinks he is not allowed to be. Gon didnt like to kill the ants, but after he did it, he was fine with it. Kurapika, after killing Uvogin, was broken inside and had a strong physical reaction. Kurapika also judged Leorio for just wanting money and really liked that leorio wanted to help others. But Kurapika would still kill melody in cold blood for his mission. I think him meeting Oito and Oito being the first outspoken moral characters in the series is important to see
You're forgetting Morena. :3c

"This world is evil and I will destroy it."

Also, the highest form of Zetsu is called "Haitusu"

And it is reality stopping. ;)
 
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Does anyone have any idea what the new HXH game was?
 

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Killua's Theme 2011 anime Guitar Cover by Gabriele Motta.

Hey so this is not by me. It's just by a guy who does some pretty cool anime guitar covers.
I haven't heard too many guitar covers of Ginpatsu No Shonen aka Killua's theme.

Just thought I share!
 

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Hi, I don't know if talking about such things is allowed here but I'm looking for the HxH tankobon volumes in cbz or PDF Format. Anyone know a site or forum where you can download those? Don't worry, I own all volumes in printed form already and will continue to buy them but I want to put them also on my eReader for reading convenience. Feel free to dm me if you can hook me up. :)
 
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