Lmao
Yeah by what feats is the punch that killed aldo enough to destroy the entire army? Nah alot of spriggans would survive it, hell god serena will eat it. you tried tho
Irene was playing with erza and wendy, August was playing with gildarts and cana, wdym they could barely beat them? even an enchanted berserker from irene sent erza flying back
Ultear is dead, END was made by Zeref so he doesn't count, God Serena is a part of alvarez, Gray was the one to fight invel was cause he was the only one that can beat him due to ice immunity, gajeel ate bloodmans power thats how he beat him, and yes they will always beat ishgar (exc for mavis who with FH one shots everyone in FT except for acnologia, Igneel and FH zeref)
Natsu erased Zeref's body with a lesser attack lmao, not only does the army die, but so does every spriggan, with the possible exception of August and God Serena and even they probably die.
Eileen went full dragon and tried to nuke Erza and Wendy lmao, only to get sliced out of the form. August literally killed himself against Gildarts and Cana. So when I say they could barely beat them, I mean, they could barely beat them.
Ultear is an old lady, she's not dead. Of course END counts, END is Natsu and Natsu sides with Ishgar. By that logic Brandish is part of Ishgar, because she sided with Ishgar, each side had their turncoats. Gray fought Invel because he is from Ishgar. Gajeel stomped Bloodman the moment he could touch him.
Ishgar simply has better feats than Alvarez does, there's nothing special about it.
Ishgar defeated Alvarez, in canon. That right there is already a slam dunk for me.
Alvarez can't beat Acnologia without FH, Ishgar did.
Ishgar has killed 2 more nerfed Acno tiers since then and will likely kill 3 more by the time the manga is done.
Now, what has Alvarez done? They collectively shat their pants at the mere thought of Acnologia. And.... that's about it. Did they even take out anyone meaningful on Ishgar's side? It's kind of pathetic.
They could have but the risk is too great afterward, their treat was on part with that of using Etherion and Face, and Makarov’s did not have the stomach to use FH against Face, so by transitive property, if he needed to use FH to counter face but couldn’t which was a necessary déterrant against Alvarez, Alvarez is a worthy threat for FH but is too risky to use, in fact, they considered using FH against both Acno and Alvarez, implying they are of the same threat level. Zeref would not have died anyway since a similar curse with the same affect would not be able to kill him the same way., yet getting close was enough to freeze Natsu or make him shake in his boots and his igneel power reacted violently to their presence, Jacob‘s power was greatly reduced via closing his eyes. August was not taking things seriously, he was serious in the sense he would sacrifice himself for Zeref, Irene was playing too until later which Erza had her power boost to match. END still in a league on his own. Still Cheria is stronger than before with GS magic, put her against someone else and alone, she would likely loose, their defeats were circumstantial, they were strong as FT acknowledged time and again, and yet Irene managed to send Acno away and let him drift in the ocean. Ishgar used stronger spells to incapacitate and play on his weaknesses. And Brandish’s power could harm a slightly weakened Acno tier.
Yeah, they could have. Makarov had the stomach, he simply gathered it too late.
Yeah, but they didn't, aka plot like I said.
Doesn't matter if Zeref would have died, you don't need to kill Zeref to beat him. Mavis can kill him anyway.
Natsu doesn't need to get close.
So was Mirajanes by fighting in human form lmao.
August was going max seriousness, demonstrated clearly by his willingness to kill himself.
Eileen went full dragon and used her ultimate move against Erza, got shut down on both accounts.
END is weaker than Natsu.
So? Cheria is from Ishgar, so is Ultear. Ishgar using the resources at hand is perfectly logical.
Only when given to Gajeel.
