Question Is Kaido a giant?

[1337 haxor]

Now that we've seen Harujin and Elbaph, we know that giants can wildly vary in size.

Not just that but they live hundreds of years and two of their greatest captains disappeared one hundred years ago.

So I thought, maybe Kaido is actually a giant descendant of those missing captains and hence why he is huge and has horns.

Why do you guys think?

 

[Zehahaha]

Now that we've seen Harujin and Elbaph, we know that giants can wildly vary in size.

Not just that but they live hundreds of years and two of their greatest captains disappeared one hundred years ago.

So I thought, maybe Kaido is actually a giant descendant of those missing captains and hence why he is huge and has horns.

Why do you guys think?

You do realize we have seen those missing captains in Little Garden do you ? And they have been fighting for decades and decades
Besides, since when can giants vary in size ? Judge said something about oversized humans, but we never heard anything about giants varying in size... Unless you consider Oars a giant then

 

[Sakazuki]

Now that we've seen Harujin and Elbaph, we know that giants can wildly vary in size.

Not just that but they live hundreds of years and two of their greatest captains disappeared one hundred years ago.

So I thought, maybe Kaido is actually a giant descendant of those missing captains and hence why he is huge and has horns.

Why do you guys think?

Quite hard to be sure of anything on this topic.

Kaido is very tall, even taller than Kidd, but seems that he is no tall as giant.

Also, he seems to have some kind of horns that we don't know if is only an adornement as Magellan or is biological, like the ones that Oars race has. Speaking of Oars, many believes that he may be have some kind of connection.

But let's remember that we don't know all races from the One Piece Verse, as we were rectly introduced to the three eyed tribe. Also, let's have minda that we dib't know each race that is part of Beast Pirates. Jack seems tall as Kaidpu, has horns and cpuld breath undet the water, but we have no information of connection between him and fishmen.

 

[Fox666]

Oars, Bastille or Sanjuan Wolf are all giants with a vastly different in size. Wadatsumi is much bigger than regular giants, despite being a fishman.

There's nothing that suggests that Kaido is a giant. His size seems comparable to Kuma or Moriah. Interestingly, Kaido has horns like Moriah, Magellan, Hannyabal and Jack. Perhaps they are of a different race.

Also, he seems to have some kind of horns that we don't know if is only an adornement as Magellan or is biological, like the ones that Oars race has. Speaking of Oars, many believes that he may be have some kind of connection.

The simplest answer is that Oars is a hybrid of a giant with horned Humans.

Jack seems tall as Kaidpu, has horns and cpuld breath undet the water, but we have no information of connection between him and fishmen.

Considering Jack's teeth, I think it's safe to assume he's at least half fishman.

 

[ShadowHeart]

Considering Jack's teeth, I think it's safe to assume he's at least half fishman.

Not to mention he's fine breathing underwater just waiting to be saved.

 

[kkck]

Well, giants varying in size as much as humans though would make sense. It would explain bastille, a tiny giant and sanjuan wolf (a giant giant). Though wolf seems to be proportionally larger than larger humans compared to smaller humans. Proportionally I guess he could be akin to big mom, a giant sized human. As for kaido, he is large but not nearly as much as a giant. If he is related to aors or giants then he is probably a mix....

--- Double Post Merged, May 29, 2017, Original Post Date: May 29, 2017 ---

Perhap's kaido's crew is actually made up entirely out of hybrids. Jack being part fishman makes sense and seeing how kaido has horns comparable to oars it is not a stretch he carries their blood. And other members of the crew have at least animal or beast themes. A crew of hybrids, a literal crew of beasts....

 

[hokageji]

I am having a hard time with Bastille as a giant... he isn't that tall.. maybe he is still a kid and will grow further..

I don't think Kaido is a giant... assuming giants are people as tall as the 2 in elbaf and enes lobby.... Kaido is probably an oversized human, like he the might destroyers of franky family or so..

 

[kkck]

I am having a hard time with Bastille as a giant... he isn't that tall.. maybe he is still a kid and will grow further..

I don't think Kaido is a giant... assuming giants are people as tall as the 2 in elbaf and enes lobby.... Kaido is probably an oversized human, like he the might destroyers of franky family or so..

Well, with bastille the implication is that he is a particularly short giant. Given what we have seen I would argue the situation is that while giants are on average larger than humans (obviously) they also vary in size as much as humans. So you have big mom, a giant sized human and bastille, a giant that is much shorter than other giants. San juan wolf is potentially just a giant giant.

 

[hokageji]

giant giant??? so like a giant with gigantism??? Maybe hes half giant, half blue whale fishmen or something...

coming back to Kaido, i dont think hes taller than whitebeard, or is he?

 

[xzaizenx]

I don't think he is. I suspect that he belongs to a different tribe. He strongly resembles an Oni.

 

[Core D. Roy]

I get the feeling giant's blood runs through a LOT of the OP world. Judging from the fact Lola was betrothed to Loki, apparently it's very possible for giants and normal-sized humans to reproduce. So my guess is that at some point way back in history, giant/normal-sized human couples were common enough to introduce a hybrid bloodline that resulted in the myriad oversized humans we see. Even BM can be explained by this, if one or both of her parents had recessive genes that manifested strongly enough for her to develop giant characteristics.

I do think Kaidou and BM have some level of giant's blood, but I think they descend from different clans of giants. Sort of like the difference between normal humans and long-leg, long-arm, long-neck, and three-eyed tribes.

As for what clan Kaidou's ancestors belonged to, I assume it's going to have a heavy Mongolian/steppe peoples theme. Perpetual migrators that can't leave their territory without losing their edge, but whose land also can't be invaded by outside forces because of that same edge.

As for "giant giants", I don't see why not. Oars was introduced as basically that, so it seems that giants got smaller over time. It's possible that we just haven't seen "original-sized" giants outside of Oars because they all died out as their bloodlines mingled with the far more numerous normal-sized humans.

 

[Futomimi]

I get the feeling giant's blood runs through a LOT of the OP world. Judging from the fact Lola was betrothed to Loki, apparently it's very possible for giants and normal-sized humans to reproduce. So my guess is that at some point way back in history, giant/normal-sized human couples were common enough to introduce a hybrid bloodline that resulted in the myriad oversized humans we see. Even BM can be explained by this, if one or both of her parents had recessive genes that manifested strongly enough for her to develop giant characteristics.

I do think Kaidou and BM have some level of giant's blood, but I think they descend from different clans of giants. Sort of like the difference between normal humans and long-leg, long-arm, long-neck, and three-eyed tribes.

As for what clan Kaidou's ancestors belonged to, I assume it's going to have a heavy Mongolian/steppe peoples theme. Perpetual migrators that can't leave their territory without losing their edge, but whose land also can't be invaded by outside forces because of that same edge.

As for "giant giants", I don't see why not. Oars was introduced as basically that, so it seems that giants got smaller over time. It's possible that we just haven't seen "original-sized" giants outside of Oars because they all died out as their bloodlines mingled with the far more numerous normal-sized humans.

There's also a giant elephant, a giant mermaid, giants sea kings, and gigantification. So who knows, maybe there's more to giant stuff than Oda's revealing yet.

I still like the kaidou ate hito hito mi model oars theory, but he could definitely just have diverse ancestry.

 

[Fox666]

hito hito mi model oars

Oars is a given name, not a race. =/

 

[hokageji]

There's also a giant elephant, a giant mermaid, giants sea kings, and gigantification. So who knows, maybe there's more to giant stuff than Oda's revealing yet.

I still like the kaidou ate hito hito mi model oars theory, but he could definitely just have diverse ancestry.

Thats would be absurd cos hes nowehere close to Oars or Oars Jr size...

I can imagine him being from the Oars race and having eaten the dwarf dwarf no mi but he has a normal face, not ugly like Oars...

One thing's for sure, Kaido has a zoan DF ability, most likely a dragon.

 

[Core D. Roy]

Thats would be absurd cos hes nowehere close to Oars or Oars Jr size...

I can imagine him being from the Oars race and having eaten the dwarf dwarf no mi but he has a normal face, not ugly like Oars...

One thing's for sure, Kaido has a zoan DF ability, most likely a dragon.

It was also 'for sure' that BM's DF had to do with eating or stomach acid or something until we saw Totland and signs pointed to it being related to souls/animating things. Who would've guessed that BM's insane eating ability was just an innate thing? Wait til Oda shows us Wano and more of Kaidou fighting.

I was just comparing Oars, Little Oars Jr., and Kaidou and I think it's very possible they're related. There could be/have been an ogre/oni clan of giants that existed parallel to the Elbaf viking/norse clan we're familiar with. Generations of interbreeding could definitely get Little Oars Jr. to Kaidou, design-wise. The horn shape is just way too similar to be a coincidence.

 

[hokageji]

Yes, certainly it could be... Till Totoland arc, only types of humanoids we knew are from the bounty picture:
Humans, Dwarves, Mink tribe, Longarm, Longleg, Snakeneck, Fishmen, Giants etc...

Most of the characters we've seen so far categorize under these groups, but then Pudding was introduced as someone from the 3 eyed tribe..
From what we know, Kaido could be a totally new species, specially because of the horns.. I don't recollect any other humans with horns other than Oars or Kaido (Bastille, but that could be his mask)... Kaido could be half Oars species explaining human traits of his, or a new species as you mentioned...but of what we know, I'd say hes unlikely..

Regarding his DF, all of his crew members shown so far are Zoan users. All the smiles created are zoan types, and hes quoted to have a crew with 100 beasts.... These are better pointers than Big Mama salivating on the floor for food.

 

[Core D. Roy]

Yes, certainly it could be... Till Totoland arc, only types of humanoids we knew are from the bounty picture:
Humans, Dwarves, Mink tribe, Longarm, Longleg, Snakeneck, Fishmen, Giants etc...

Most of the characters we've seen so far categorize under these groups, but then Pudding was introduced as someone from the 3 eyed tribe..
From what we know, Kaido could be a totally new species, specially because of the horns.. I don't recollect any other humans with horns other than Oars or Kaido (Bastille, but that could be his mask)... Kaido could be half Oars species explaining human traits of his, or a new species as you mentioned...but of what we know, I'd say hes unlikely..

Regarding his DF, all of his crew members shown so far are Zoan users. All the smiles created are zoan types, and hes quoted to have a crew with 100 beasts.... These are better pointers than Big Mama salivating on the floor for food.

Still, BM's DF was never guessed to be soul based until we saw her homies. If she was 1-1 thematically with her own crew, she would have a food-based DF. Kaidou could be something similar... even if he has a zoan, there's no reason to believe it's something mythical or legendary (much less a reason for his giant size). At least that's the point I was trying to get at earlier.

 

[hokageji]

well, its true with big mama, but in her case, most of the crew wasnt revealed till this arc witht he exception of Tamago, Pekoms and Capone..

In case of Kaido's crew, everyone we know so far's been a zoan user or has similar characteristics...
Anyways, I more or less agree with you, but lets just call Kaido+Dragon fruit a hunch/prediction...