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Is Raki still Human or not?
use this thread to discuss/debate whether he's still human or not (as a Yoma: a Claymore, an Awakened, or something else non-human)
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I have a difficult time with assessing Raki being human or not:
(though as can be seen below, I do lean towards him still being a human being, and not a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened)
Pro-Human (he's NOT a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened/whatever; he's a Human still):
1. humans in the real world, when they're ripped/buff/strong like Raki, have veins bulging in their arms when clenching their hands. We've seen Rig also with bulgy veins in his face while under "stress", and we've seen the BCs with bulgy veins too.
2. he hasn't done anything that a human can't do, no super strength, no super speed, no super jumping (not that he could underground, lol), and etc.
3. all of his feats/perfomance has indeed been that of near perfection at swordsmanship and combat tactics, which as we know he was trained by one of the best, Isley. He was using basic physics of combat, he was just extremely skilled in combat tactics/knowledge/physics and swordsmanship, and was taught very good agility as well, lol.
4. No Yoki is being sensed from him, and it would be by at least the TATs, as they have to have good yoki sensing abilities, as they need it to be able to do the Soul Link in the first place. Raki would not be able to suppress his yoki well enough for them to not sense his yoki, and as a prisoner, he'd not have the yoki suppression pills
5. We know Claymores can drop to human levels and spar at those human levels: Ophelia vs none other than teen-child Raki, and Teresa as well, being able to kick little human Clare 3 times and not kill her. So, the TATs can be doing the same thing as Ophelia did to the younger Raki, so while his performance is extremely impressive, we shouldn't read too much into it. Also, the TATs as we seen, have extreme control over their Awakenings and their Awakened bodies, than Alicia+Beth did, so they could have toned down their attacks with their Awakened limbs upon him. Also, he could have received practice against tentacle attack from Priscilla too, as part of Isley's training.
6. the TATs WERE sparring/taking it easy on him
7. Raki had/stole the UNbreakable dulled training claymore sword from the Trainee, so it was just a matter of swordsmanship to defend against the TATs tentacle attacks, as the sword would not break from them, he just had to parry them, and the sword would do the rest (and with his swordsmanship, one is able to deflect the force of an attack, so it's quite possible for him to withstand the tentacle attacks even if they were powerful, which they likely weren't as the TATs were going easy on him).
8. if Raki was taking on the TATs at full power, than he'd be more powerful than Miria, as Miria herself said the TATs are superior to her (albiet they're using their Awakened forms, lol). That's just too lame a "magical power up", that's for DBZ or Bleach or Naruto, but not Claymore!
9. Raki is superior to the BCs and thus also humans, but is merely able to spar with a Claymore/Awakened, whereas he was not able to as a teen-child (against Ophelia, though she was upping her power level against him, lol)
10. We've seen other Humans doing "decently well" too against a SNY (Galk+Cid but with Clare's help), against a Claymore (Galk+Cid vs Clare), the Rabona soldiers against Agatha, the Rabona soldiers against the Yoma (AB+NY) Seige, and the bandit leader against Teresa.
11. Humans can kill NYs, from time to time, so Raki killing that NY wasn't too big a deal, though Raki's definately from skill/training superior to any other human. the BCs were able to kill Raftela, and Clare was going to hold the SNY's head, allowing the Rabona soldiers to impale it dead with their spears. Cid nearly killed Agatha, decapitating her... except it was her fake head, lol.
12. etc...
Anti-Human (he is a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened/whatever):
1. he did throw a BC across the room
2. his bulging veins on his arm, as in Claymore world, this is usually a sign of being Yoma/Claymore
3. his weird eyes
4. his agility and swordsmanship and combat tactics does seem a bit non-human, we don't see Cid/Galk even remotely close to Raki's abilities.
5. he was able to parry the TATs Awakened limb attacks in that he wasn't knocked over or knocked flying backwards
6. he was doing very well sparring against Claymores/Awakeneds (the TATs) who are more powerful than Miria herself, according to Miria's own words.
7. He did have Priscilla's arm and two small projectiles in him, and he was an Org prisconer who (Dae) could have ALSO changed him, not to mention while being with Isley and Priscilla, as they could have done soemthing to him as well.
8. etc..
use this thread to discuss/debate whether he's still human or not (as a Yoma: a Claymore, an Awakened, or something else non-human)
---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 AM ----------
I have a difficult time with assessing Raki being human or not:
(though as can be seen below, I do lean towards him still being a human being, and not a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened)
Pro-Human (he's NOT a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened/whatever; he's a Human still):
1. humans in the real world, when they're ripped/buff/strong like Raki, have veins bulging in their arms when clenching their hands. We've seen Rig also with bulgy veins in his face while under "stress", and we've seen the BCs with bulgy veins too.
2. he hasn't done anything that a human can't do, no super strength, no super speed, no super jumping (not that he could underground, lol), and etc.
3. all of his feats/perfomance has indeed been that of near perfection at swordsmanship and combat tactics, which as we know he was trained by one of the best, Isley. He was using basic physics of combat, he was just extremely skilled in combat tactics/knowledge/physics and swordsmanship, and was taught very good agility as well, lol.
4. No Yoki is being sensed from him, and it would be by at least the TATs, as they have to have good yoki sensing abilities, as they need it to be able to do the Soul Link in the first place. Raki would not be able to suppress his yoki well enough for them to not sense his yoki, and as a prisoner, he'd not have the yoki suppression pills
5. We know Claymores can drop to human levels and spar at those human levels: Ophelia vs none other than teen-child Raki, and Teresa as well, being able to kick little human Clare 3 times and not kill her. So, the TATs can be doing the same thing as Ophelia did to the younger Raki, so while his performance is extremely impressive, we shouldn't read too much into it. Also, the TATs as we seen, have extreme control over their Awakenings and their Awakened bodies, than Alicia+Beth did, so they could have toned down their attacks with their Awakened limbs upon him. Also, he could have received practice against tentacle attack from Priscilla too, as part of Isley's training.
6. the TATs WERE sparring/taking it easy on him
7. Raki had/stole the UNbreakable dulled training claymore sword from the Trainee, so it was just a matter of swordsmanship to defend against the TATs tentacle attacks, as the sword would not break from them, he just had to parry them, and the sword would do the rest (and with his swordsmanship, one is able to deflect the force of an attack, so it's quite possible for him to withstand the tentacle attacks even if they were powerful, which they likely weren't as the TATs were going easy on him).
8. if Raki was taking on the TATs at full power, than he'd be more powerful than Miria, as Miria herself said the TATs are superior to her (albiet they're using their Awakened forms, lol). That's just too lame a "magical power up", that's for DBZ or Bleach or Naruto, but not Claymore!
9. Raki is superior to the BCs and thus also humans, but is merely able to spar with a Claymore/Awakened, whereas he was not able to as a teen-child (against Ophelia, though she was upping her power level against him, lol)
10. We've seen other Humans doing "decently well" too against a SNY (Galk+Cid but with Clare's help), against a Claymore (Galk+Cid vs Clare), the Rabona soldiers against Agatha, the Rabona soldiers against the Yoma (AB+NY) Seige, and the bandit leader against Teresa.
11. Humans can kill NYs, from time to time, so Raki killing that NY wasn't too big a deal, though Raki's definately from skill/training superior to any other human. the BCs were able to kill Raftela, and Clare was going to hold the SNY's head, allowing the Rabona soldiers to impale it dead with their spears. Cid nearly killed Agatha, decapitating her... except it was her fake head, lol.
12. etc...
Anti-Human (he is a Yoma/Claymore/Awakened/whatever):
1. he did throw a BC across the room
2. his bulging veins on his arm, as in Claymore world, this is usually a sign of being Yoma/Claymore
3. his weird eyes
4. his agility and swordsmanship and combat tactics does seem a bit non-human, we don't see Cid/Galk even remotely close to Raki's abilities.
5. he was able to parry the TATs Awakened limb attacks in that he wasn't knocked over or knocked flying backwards
6. he was doing very well sparring against Claymores/Awakeneds (the TATs) who are more powerful than Miria herself, according to Miria's own words.
7. He did have Priscilla's arm and two small projectiles in him, and he was an Org prisconer who (Dae) could have ALSO changed him, not to mention while being with Isley and Priscilla, as they could have done soemthing to him as well.
8. etc..
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