Fantasy Jacob vs Lucy

Who wins?

  • Current Lucy

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Lucy must win. Mira managed to defeat Jacob with just the standard Satan Soul, and in the 100 Years Quest she tied with Skullion using this form. Of course, the Satan Soul evolved according to Mira's power level, so the version that Skullion faced is much stronger than the version of the Satan Soul that defeated Jacob.

As Skullion is comparable to Kyria's power level, it can be said that Lucy is comparable to the standard Mirajane Satan Soul's power level.

Lucy also has the physical stats to withstand a fight against Jacob, as she withstood Kyria's attacks which are strong enough to damage Laxus.

Your new spell should be able to finish off Jacob.
 

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Lucy must win. Mira managed to defeat Jacob with just the standard Satan Soul, and in the 100 Years Quest she tied with Skullion using this form. Of course, the Satan Soul evolved according to Mira's power level, so the version that Skullion faced is much stronger than the version of the Satan Soul that defeated Jacob.

As Skullion is comparable to Kyria's power level, it can be said that Lucy is comparable to the standard Mirajane Satan Soul's power level.

Lucy also has the physical stats to withstand a fight against Jacob, as she withstood Kyria's attacks which are strong enough to damage Laxus.

Your new spell should be able to finish off Jacob.
That’s the thing though, Jacob was nerfed via his eyes closed, Mira admitted this twice as it cut down his strength. And that spell is from Eclipse Spirit Arc which would likely be as strong as it was then since it was from her memory.
 

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That’s the thing though, Jacob was nerfed via his eyes closed, Mira admitted this twice as it cut down his strength. And that spell is from Eclipse Spirit Arc which would likely be as strong as it was then since it was from her memory.
Jacob closed eyes does not diminish his strength, speed, durability and the power level of his magic. It just hurts your fighting style.

He is still around the Satan Soul level of the Alvarez bow.

As for Lucy's spell. Obviously, Lucy has grown in terms of magic power over all these years. So the spell doesn't have the same level of power shown by Lucy in the Eclipse arc, it's much stronger.
 

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Jacob closed eyes does not diminish his strength, speed, durability and the power level of his magic. It just hurts your fighting style.

He is still around the Satan Soul level of the Alvarez bow.

As for Lucy's spell. Obviously, Lucy has grown in terms of magic power over all these years. So the spell doesn't have the same level of power shown by Lucy in the Eclipse arc, it's much stronger.
It actually does as MPL are determined by one’s knowledge and nerves, so having his eyes closed basically reduces his ability to use his full power since he can’t concentrate properly. Mira said that he is powerful, but because of closing his eyes they are evenly matched, fighting style is not an issue when he can sense his enemy. He is far above it as even Mira SS struggled against Irene’s squad. that spell is already powerful with how it is multi-Stellar level as it manipulate all the stars in the sky, there is likely nothing Lucy could do to make it stronger than it was then
 

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Jacob no diffs with or without bfr
 

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It actually does as MPL are determined by one’s knowledge and nerves, so having his eyes closed basically reduces his ability to use his full power since he can’t concentrate properly. Mira said that he is powerful, but because of closing his eyes they are evenly matched, fighting style is not an issue when he can sense his enemy. He is far above it as even Mira SS struggled against Irene’s squad. that spell is already powerful with how it is multi-Stellar level as it manipulate all the stars in the sky, there is likely nothing Lucy could do to make it stronger than it was then
Jacob only lost his eyesight in his fight with Mirajane, that's all. Any other statement you make up is just a narrative created by you, I don't intend to discuss it.

And it's hilarious to think that Lucy's spell is on the same level as the one used in the Eclipse arc. It's like thinking that Uranometry has the same level when it was used against Angel.

Anyway, I've already expressed my opinion on the confrontation. I really don't care if you disagree or not. I have the feeling that you are not being honest in your arguments because they are meaningless, it seems like a big narrative juggling.
 

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Jacob only lost his eyesight in his fight with Mirajane, that's all. Any other statement you make up is just a narrative created by you, I don't intend to discuss it.

And it's hilarious to think that Lucy's spell is on the same level as the one used in the Eclipse arc. It's like thinking that Uranometry has the same level when it was used against Angel.

Anyway, I've already expressed my opinion on the confrontation. I really don't care if you disagree or not. I have the feeling that you are not being honest in your arguments because they are meaningless, it seems like a big narrative juggling.
I don’t much appreciate that tone because how is it made up when there is a direct Q&A statement linked to you? And in closing his eyes, he doesn’t use his full power, Urano Metria is not Gottfried though, so you are saying that Lucy is multi-stellar level? that is different. and here is the a piece of evidence how magic requires one’s wisdom and nerves, and guess what, eyesight are connect to nerves as well, so losing that hampers one’s magic.
 

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Jacob no diffs with or without bfr
No. His attacks only did bruises and scratches to Lucy back in Alvarez.

She's now far stronger than that.
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Mavis against Jacob's attack clearly harmed

Mavis against Fairy Glitter and not even phased
Your panels literary show that Fairy Glitter did way more damage to Human Mavis than Jacob's attacks did to her Ghost self.

Jacob's attack power is crap.

The culminative damage from his attacks on Team NaLu were bruises and scratches.

Kyria left real cuts on Lucy on their two encounters. And the second time, Lucy could tank it.

Kyria >>>>>> Jacob.

Lucy defeated Kyria.
 

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No. His attacks only did bruises and scratches to Lucy back in Alvarez.

She's now far stronger than that.
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Your panels literary show that Fairy Glitter did way more damage to Human Mavis than Jacob's attacks did to her Ghost self.

Jacob's attack power is crap.

The culminative damage from his attacks on Team NaLu were bruises and scratches.

Kyria left real cuts on Lucy on their two encounters. And the second time, Lucy could tank it.

Kyria >>>>>> Jacob.

Lucy defeated Kyria.
They are both ghost mavis and that’s not what was going on, the fact that she was not even fatigued or in pain from FG with her real body in tact while Jacob’s attacks caused her extreme pain and even injured her real body means that Jacob’s attack did more. and those attacks made Natsu acknowledge his power as well and he even saved lucy from decapitation and even required his fire powers. And that means decapitation trumps cuts.
 

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Since Jacob is the weakest Spriggan without using his transport, I think Lucy can win.
Lucy can:
1) nullify his transport with Horologium. And with Marin-Gemini she can stop him from using Transport.
2) find Jacob in his invisible form by using Loki's light.
3) defeat him with Uranometria or Starmix Aquarius X Gemini.
 
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Since Jacob is the weakest Spriggan without using his transport, I think Lucy can win.
Lucy can:
1) nullify his transport with Horologium. And with Marin-Gemini she can stop him from using Transport.
2) find Jacob in his invisible form by using Loki's light.
3) defeat him with Uranometria or Starmix Aquarius X Gemini.
not sure about Marin here when he is not near by in this fight, Gemini would have to be near him to do that. Jacob still can blast away Loki with invisible weapons, if Urano Métra could not beat Brandish, I doubt it would be strong enough to beat Jacob.
 
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if Urano Métra could not beat Brandish
When did Lucy ever used UM against Brandish? And what durability feats does she have that suggest she can tank that attack? She was taking damage from X792 Lucy's base attacks.


I doubt it would be strong enough to beat Jacob
The same Jacob that was knocked out by a basic BSS punch from a weakened Mira who got beat up the last night and used up almost of her MP. Lol
 

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not sure about Marin here when he is not nearby in this fight, Gemini would have to be near him to do that. Jacob still can blast away Loki with invisible weapons, if Urano Métra could not beat Brandish, I doubt it would be strong enough to beat Jacob.
Gemini kept in his memories the 2 last transformations that they did. But you're right, they can't transform in Marin anymore, because now they have transformed into Lisanna and Lucy.
Loki is strong enough to endure Elfman's punches, he will not lose easily to some invisible weapons.
Lucy never cast Urano Metria on Brandish.

However, since Gemini-Marin can't be used, and since Jacob doesn't have to fight like an idiot, he probably would win.
Lucy has spells strong enough to defeat him, as Uranometria and Gottfried (through Starmix Gemini-Aquarius), but Jacob would win once that he clapped his hands.
 

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When did Lucy ever used UM against Brandish? And what durability feats does she have that suggest she can tank that attack? She was taking damage from X792 Lucy's base attacks.




The same Jacob that was knocked out by a basic BSS punch from a weakened Mira who got beat up the last night and used up almost of her MP. Lol
Oh right, AM which is basically UM but with water based magic. She basically tanked it and then used her magic to compress and send it back at Lucy, though it is based on her plan to convincingly lose to Lucy, and no, they are not base as she used star dresses, one is a power type which Brandish stopped with her bared hand. Jacob was massively nerfed via closing his eyes as Mira stated twice, and Mira who had hours to recover her magic and took advantage of a weakened opponent.
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Gemini kept in his memories the 2 last transformations that they did. But you're right, they can't transform in Marin anymore, because now they have transformed into Lisanna and Lucy.
Loki is strong enough to endure Elfman's punches, he will not lose easily to some invisible weapons.
Lucy never cast Urano Metria on Brandish.

However, since Gemini-Marin can't be used, and since Jacob doesn't have to fight like an idiot, he probably would win.
Lucy has spells strong enough to defeat him, as Uranometria and Gottfried (through Starmix Gemini-Aquarius), but Jacob would win once that he clapped his hands.
Elfman really won with help with Lisanna as he took advantage with his sand beast against Ajeel’s sand magic, and Loke was attacked by Jacob who was holding back. I meant AM which is basically UM but with Water magic, so it would scale still, he has attacks that are powerful compared to Fairy Glitter as he could harm Mavis’ more than it could, and the latter has the power of the light from the sun, moon and stars.
 
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Oh right, AM which is basically UM but with water based magic. She basically tanked it and then used her magic to compress and send it back at Lucy, though it is based on her plan to convincingly lose to Lucy, and no, they are not base as she used star dresses, one is a power type which Brandish stopped with her bared hand. Jacob was massively nerfed via closing his eyes as Mira stated twice, and Mira who had hours to recover her magic and took advantage of a weakened opponent
Brandish might've tanked Aqua Metria but so did Lucy.

Yeah, I meant Star Dresses when I was saying "base". They are her most basic attacks compared to her Star Dress Mix, UM or Gottfried.

Mira was covered in injuries and if you watch their fight in the anime (and the rare moments we could see of it in the manga), Mira was the one at a disadvantage as she stayed in her Human Form throughout it and defeated Jacob with a BSS punch. Jacob was totally healthy when they fought.
 
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