Kidd vs luffys past opponents

[GeckoMoria]

ok so what if Captain Kidd took on all of luffys past opponents everything is the same in terms of where they fight the situation etc. just instead of luffy, Kidd is fighting. who wins? predict

 

[neomaster121]

ok so what if Captain Kidd took on all of luffys past opponents everything is the same in terms of where they fight the situation etc. just instead of luffy, Kidd is fighting. who wins? predict

luuci would kill him
enel would laugh then kill him
croc would kill him

odz/moria would kill him

lol Zoro would kill him

see where im going

quite alot of the opponents Luffy's fought would defeat kidd
Even Zoro would (after he learnt how to cut through metal obviously)

 

[DutchPhoenix]

i think he could defeat arlong though

 

[bax]

Well to be fair, I think Kidd could beat them all save Enel.

It doesn't take much to take out Crocodile, just a water trick. Anyone could do that I believe, it's just a matter of executing the attacks would be different. Though yes, Luffy's rubber properties could make a difference in a lot of fights, especially when we are talking about endurance.

For the other guys (save Enel), Luffy beat them all with brute force. I think Kidd can do it too, given the fact of the protagonist laws be applied xD Not so much being dictated by the fruit's power, although it does acts as a catalyst and method to execute the attacks.

Enel is a bad combination for Kidd honestly >.>; I still regard Enel as having the second most powerful fruit ability (everything else discounted) after Blackbeard so far. And with his lightning vs metals (that Kidd's magnetic power attracts), doesn't take a genius to tell what would happen >.>;; Someone is getting electrocuted >.>; Kidd without magnet, he'll be dead too.

 

[Sachsenhesse]

luuci would kill him
enel would laugh then kill him
croc would kill him

odz/moria would kill him

lol Zoro would kill him

see where im going

quite alot of the opponents Luffy's fought would defeat kidd
Even Zoro would (after he learnt how to cut through metal obviously)

but he would have an easy win against don krieg and captain morgan! ^^

 

[Dice]

And against Zoro too. Zoro without swords won't be able to take him down.

Well and about Enel. Have you ever heard of the Faraday cage? Kidd should be able to build one around himself and thus couldn't be penetrated through electricity from the outside. Furthermore he could put Enel in a cage too. So he wouldn't be able to leave it in logia mode. He Kidd would be decreasing the size of the cage he might even hinder Enel to go in non-logia mode again.
While Kidd still couldn't harm him he could just throw him into the white sea.

All eastblue villains would be an easy thing just because they were relying one weapons (with the exception of Arlong). But even Arlong shouldn't be a very big problem.
Crocodile could be defeated if he discovers the water-trick soon enough.
About Lucci...well I don't not know. We should Kidd see go all out to really think about that.
And Kidd winning against Oz and Moria...mhh the only possibility I could think of right now would be that he could tear the ship into two so Oz and Moria will fall into the sea (not totally serious with that ^^)

 

[neomaster121]

And against Zoro too. Zoro without swords won't be able to take him down.

Well and about Enel. Have you ever heard of the Faraday cage? Kidd should be able to build one around himself and thus couldn't be penetrated through electricity from the outside. Furthermore he could put Enel in a cage too. So he wouldn't be able to leave it in logia mode. He Kidd would be decreasing the size of the cage he might even hinder Enel to go in non-logia mode again.
While Kidd still couldn't harm him he could just throw him into the white sea.

All eastblue villains would be an easy thing just because they were relying one weapons (with the exception of Arlong). But even Arlong shouldn't be a very big problem.
Crocodile could be defeated if he discovers the water-trick soon enough.
About Lucci...well I don't not know. We should Kidd see go all out to really think about that.
And Kidd winning against Oz and Moria...mhh the only possibility I could think of right now would be that he could tear the ship into two so Oz and Moria will fall into the sea (not totally serious with that ^^)

have you forgotten Zoro's non sword style?

croc think about the location there wasn't much metal around in the middle of the desert i don't see kidd survivng that first fight
enel not much metal around again to make ur cage and even if there was could he really move the metal into a cage shape fast enough to surround enel?
plus most things were made of cloud

 

[kkck]

I think the ones which might defeat kidd are crocodile, lucci, enel and moria. The only way I see crocodile losing is that kidd figures out his ability and manages to use it againts croco, otherwise croco wins. Enel would just destroy kidd. Lucci is a monster, and we dont know many things about kidd, so IDK who might win. As for moria, it is hard to say, we would have to see more of moria and kidd.

 

[Dice]

Well I didn't forgot about his non sword style. But to think that kidd will lose against a swordfighter without his swords (it's Zoro's weakest form). Don't get me wrong, zoro is my favourite character.

 

[bax]

Well and about Enel. Have you ever heard of the Faraday cage? Kidd should be able to build one around himself and thus couldn't be penetrated through electricity from the outside. Furthermore he could put Enel in a cage too. So he wouldn't be able to leave it in logia mode. He Kidd would be decreasing the size of the cage he might even hinder Enel to go in non-logia mode again.
While Kidd still couldn't harm him he could just throw him into the white sea.

Well that's a possibility too. But in my opinion, (excluding Blackbeard since we didn't see his power's full extent yet), is overwhelmingly powerful. He's like a super all rounder xD Great fruit ability, super speed, heat if lightning fails and mantra to name a few. It's just that if this is a game of poker, he just got the worst card he could possibly get named Luffy xD

That's why I think Kidd vs Enel would end with Enel's victory, despite whatever Kidd could do. I don't mean to put down Kidd, he's strong no doubt, but I just think that Enel is just out of his reach, though I don't rule out the slight possibility Kidd could pull it off.

Remember though, the main point which enabled Luffy to win against Enel was solely based on the fact that he is rubber (and it was still a hard fought battle). If Luffy were something else.... I doubt he could do much (protagonist factor excluded).

 

[Dice]

For now we haven't seen much of Kidd so I'm just trying to show that his abilities are not necessarily a disadvantage against Enel. But your right about Luffy. He was always immune against electricity whereas Kidd has to stay cautious.

Arrogance is a keyfactor against Crocodile (maybe against Enel too). If he doens't kill him off when he has the chance Kidd might come up with the waterthing.

 

[Akainu]

I'm just throwing this in since I myself don't really know that much about it and if it would actually work, but if Kidd's fruitpower is magnetism shouldn't he be able to keep Enels electicity away from him?

Against Zoro Kidd is in advantage no matter how you put it - he can take the swords away from Zoro and protect himself against any upcoming attack with some metalscrap he finds.
In that sense he is somewhat of an anti-luffy because he is not as vulnerable to swords...

However the biggest difference to Luffys fights shouold be this one: if Kidd won, his opponents having ridiculed his dream before would not be alive any longer.

 

[Dice]

Well you're right, I didn't think about that, but it should be a very big magnetic field to deflect a lightning, but in theorey it's possible. That would make it easier to avoid them^^

 

[Superman]

Enel is pretty dumb. He should have won in 1 or 2 seconds against Luffy. I expected someone like enel as an admiral so imo almost nobody would win against him. So this fight was really weak from Oda. Anyway kidd has chances but no i cant imagine that he even win against Robin so his chances are really low. SHs are something special, Kidd is just a thief. He probably just stole 315 000 000 bellie thats all No seriously his fighting strenght is actually probably highest 200 000 000 i would say not even that. I like him but hes weak.

 

[d3death]

Well you're right, I didn't think about that, but it should be a very big magnetic field to deflect a lightning, but in theorey it's possible. That would make it easier to avoid them^^

well it also had to be a big magnetic field to attract weapons all the way from action house.. add to it the Faraday 's cage.. i'll give him a chance against enel..

so here it is

Spoiler

* Kidd vs. Alvida - Win
* Kidd vs. Captain Morgan - Win
* Kidd vs. Mohji and Richie - Win
* Kidd vs. Buggy the Clown - Win (wont be able to cut yet still win)
* Kidd vs. Captain Kuro - Win
* Kidd vs. Don Krieg - Win
* Kidd vs. Arlong - Win
* Kidd vs. Smoker - LOSE
* Kidd vs. Zoro (remember luffy vs zoro at wisky peak) - Either Way
* Kidd vs. Number agents(Mr 3 etc..) - Win
* Kidd vs. Wapol - Win
* Kidd vs. Sir Crocodile - Either Way
* Kidd vs. Bellamy the Hyena - Win
* Kidd vs. Enel - Either Way
* Kidd vs. Foxy the Silver Fox - Win
* Kidd vs. Admiral Aokiji - LOSE
* Kidd vs. Usopp - Win
* Kidd vs. Franky - Win
* Kidd vs. Blueno - Win
* Kidd vs. Rob Lucci - Either Way
* Kidd vs. Oz and Gecko Moria - Either Way
* Kidd vs. PX4 - Win
* Kidd vs. Kuma - LOSE
* Kidd vs. Sentamaru - Win
* Kidd vs. Boa Sandersonia and Boa Marigold - Win
* Kidd vs. Blue Gorillas - Win
* Kidd vs. Basilisk - Win
* Kidd vs. Sphinx - Win
* Kidd vs. Minotauros - Win

 

[Gecko Moria]

In many cases of Luffy's triumph over his opponents, it was sheer luck (being able to beat Crocodile with the blood on his hands, or being immune to Enel since he is rubber). I doubt Kidd could be as lucky, though it really depends upon the situation that he is in...

 

[bittman]

Given that we know little of Kidd other than that he's a magnetic Frieza, it's a little hard. Generally I agree with d3death's list, perhaps a couple of exceptions (e.g. I think Kidd would defeat Zoro. YEAH I WENT THERE ZORO FANS!).

But really, every time someone posts a "Luffy's past opponents" basically you should just say:
* Crocodile
* Enel
* Lucchi
* Moria

Everyone else Ussop could probably beat (YEAH I WENT THERE USSOP HATERS!) or Luffy hasn't defeated and even Whitebeard would have trouble (YEAH I WENT THERE YONKOU FANS!)

But back on Kidd: out of those four, I'd say he stands a real chance against all of them, yet none would be easy. The hardest one out of those four is obviously Enel, a villain who, 300 chapters on, we still struggle figuring out who else could beat him. If Kidd was the star of One Piece, Oda would probably have Kidd put up lightning rods everywhere or perhaps give him some strange resistance against electricity given his magnetism.

And the other 3, well Kidd has just as much chance of defeating them as Luffy does. What I'm saying here is that even against those three I don't think Luffy would easily win a second time. (waits for the Crocodile haters to try tell him how the water weakness is so obvious that even Buggy could beat Crocodile)

 

[DutchPhoenix]

luffy could survive lucci only due the fact hes rubber
i dont see how kidd will survive with a hole in his throat ^^

against enel... no way

and crocodile, i dont see how he can win that either

and against moria.. maybe but moria's power was the entire island zombie's + i dont see how he could win against moria + ozz or moria 1000 shadow since luffy only survived coz hes rubber

 

[zelllogan]

We don't know enough about kidd. But He didn't become one of the supernovas only with his magnetism power. He probably is insanely strong too. His magnet power would give him a big avantage against lucci and moria. I don't see how lucci and moria could even get close to him with the amount of metal there was in enies lobby or thriller bark. Against ener, he's doomed. I don't even think that there was metal in the sky islands. Against crocodile, luffy won with insane luck. At that time, if there were 100 fights, crocodile would have won 99 of them. Against Magellan and Aokiji, Kidd would have done better because his power allow him to keep distance and to not use direct contact.

Kidd is a better opponent to anyone who have a sword. And obviously, someone like Mr1 is doomed.

 

[OunknownO]

no one is counting on that zoro can keep his swords even with magnetic field on(zoro too is insanley strong)