Killua (Kanmaru) vs. Netero : Airship rematch

[Riyuki]

Who would win? Would Killua be able to take the ball from Netero with God Speed? Or would Netero still be faster? I was just rewatching the 1999 episode on the airship and this thought came to mind lol.

I've gotta give it to Killua... mainly because the airship was close quarters in that room and I feel like Killua would have the advantage with Kanmaru.

 

[Demonspeed]

Netero has no chances of winning this. Killua has enhanced speed and reflexes while Netero can't use Nen abilities, his physical abilities are restricted too.

Even if he decided to use all his members he would lose.

 

[EverEndingStory]

Netero has no chances of winning this. Killua has enhanced speed and reflexes while Netero can't use Nen abilities, his physical abilities are restricted too.

Even if he decided to use all his members he would lose.

Wait, why can't he use Nen abilities? Why is his movement restricted?

 

[Demonspeed]

Wait, why can't he use Nen abilities? Why is his movement restricted?

Because it's the airship match, he can't use HK in these conditions, he also refused to use one of his arm IIRC.

 

[tupadre97]

Netero has no chances of winning this. Killua has enhanced speed and reflexes while Netero can't use Nen abilities, his physical abilities are restricted too.

Even if he decided to use all his members he would lose.

Basically this. Netero needed a month of meditation to gather the energy to use the bodhisattva. He would be in no condition to react to Killua on the airship. Hell if Killua was trying to kill him he might actually be able to do it. He'd be faster than him and be able to stun him.

 

[XXGenesis]

Basically this. Netero needed a month of meditation to gather the energy to use the bodhisattva. He would be in no condition to react to Killua on the airship. Hell if Killua was trying to kill him he might actually be able to do it. He'd be faster than him and be able to stun him.

Woah what drugs did you smoke???

1. Netero meditated to polish and sharpen his aura to fight The King and to be more precise it was so his Zero Hand would be effective and he wouldn't have to use desperate measure such as bowling himself up.

2. Netero can use his HK within small spaces......I.E note he first uses his Hatsu vs Pitou to send her flying miles away from the castle. He did this as he was falling in the air . He doesn't need to emit his whole aura as the HK to attack....Juss like against Pitou he can simply emit a hand,palm or fist to attack with.

3. Kanmaru doesn't make Killua the fastest person in HxH is gives him the best reaction time and reflexes...That's what the ability is about super enhancing his reflexes and instant nerve reaction.
*Note his Granny Butler was able to chase him from a vantage point when he fled with Alluka. She wasn't being outpaced until Killua got serious....Kiilua confronted by Illumi knew he couldn't escape without Alluka being hurt, meaning Illumi would have been fast enough to tag him .

4. Kanmaru isn't faster than Netero's simple praying method. Like nothing is faster than that.

 

[tupadre97]

Woah what drugs did you smoke???

1. Netero meditated to polish and sharpen his aura to fight The King and to be more precise it was so his Zero Hand would be effective and he wouldn't have to use desperate measure such as bowling himself up.

2. Netero can use his HK within small spaces......I.E note he first uses his Hatsu vs Pitou to send her flying miles away from the castle. He did this as he was falling in the air . He doesn't need to emit his whole aura as the HK to attack....Juss like against Pitou he can simply emit a hand,palm or fist to attack with.

3. Kanmaru doesn't make Killua the fastest person in HxH is gives him the best reaction time and reflexes...That's what the ability is about super enhancing his reflexes and instant nerve reaction.
*Note his Granny Butler was able to chase him from a vantage point when he fled with Alluka. She wasn't being outpaced until Killua got serious....Kiilua confronted by Illumi knew he couldn't escape without Alluka being hurt, meaning Illumi would have been fast enough to tag him .

4. Kanmaru isn't faster than Netero's simple praying method. Like nothing is faster than that.

Ok after rereading the offical volumes of hxh i have to agree with you now. I missed the part where it said he was only charging up for zero hand. He could still use the bodhisattva without meditating and his aura and physical stats were probably on par with razor and biscuit. I guess that means in his prime his aura and physical stats must have been on par with the royal guards and his zero hand could have probably taken out meruem, damn.

 

[Kanmuru]

We didn't get to see Netero doing feats of speed (only his prays)
Also Killua's godspeed is not that godlike after all (Tsubone kept chasing him at the same speed in the forest and she is not even at the level of silva/zeno)
Killua just got through youpi because youpi is super inexperienced in NEN but against veterans his speed shouldn't be that great from what we saw.
We nedd to remember that gon and killua are still kids (super talented of course, but still kids) they can't even beat knuckle in 1vs1 :c

 

[XXGenesis]

We didn't get to see Netero doing feats of speed (only his prays)
Also Killua's godspeed is not that godlike after all (Tsubone kept chasing him at the same speed in the forest and she is not even at the level of silva/zeno)
Killua just got through youpi because youpi is super inexperienced in NEN but against veterans his speed shouldn't be that great from what we saw.
We nedd to remember that gon and killua are still kids (super talented of course, but still kids) they can't even beat knuckle in 1vs1 :c

Netero's only speed feats he needs is his Prayer & His Punches being faster than sound.
Killua's Kanmaru Potentailly is God Like in the hands of Zoldyck Killua once he grows up.

Tsuborne is a top Butler that serves under Silva, she proved how skill'd & intelligent she was, she's no lightweight. She also was in a vantage position to chase Killua because she already has knowledge of his Hatsu.

Killua is more experienced in fighting and killing than Gon. Note Killua's massacre of Ants, & Easy Groteau's Manipulated army, compared to Gon's run in with Owl,Bat ant & armadillo he fought. Killua's base speed is already impressive once he mixed in Kanmaru he ultimately aligned himself to be one of the fastest Martial arts/Nen users.

Youpi obliterated Shoot a Mid Tier Hunter mostly only by grazing him with tentacle whips. The Same Shoot Killua Lost too, while Killua managed to Stun Youpi with a surprise Nen attack. Then go head to head and stop Youpi in his tracks pummeling him then retreating. Youpi starts out as pure brawn not too Intellegent fighter but later matures....Knuckle another mid tier hunter with a solid Hatsu didn't and couldn't go head to head with Youpi but impressivly he has high physical stamina and speed had to be save by Killua from a less battle mature Yupi.

Mid-tier hunters or High lv Nen masters of course will have some type of counter or maneuver to handle such speeds. But for the most part Killua in Kanmaru form which doesn't last long possess innate human capable reflexes and ontop of his base speed & muscle memory/subconscious movements he's Stupid fast.

Ultimately Kanmaru is like the more logic answer to possessing Netero's praying speed.

 

[ZakAtakk]

I think Killua with Godspeed would definitely win the ball game with Netero. Unlike what the name implies godspeed doesn't improve Killua's speed it improves his reaction time beyond the limitations of his nervous system allowing him to access his bodies maximum speed as well. Netero's reaction time is limited by his nervous system except for hundred type guanyin bodhisattava so unless Netero decided to commit to killing Killua with his ultimate attack to hold on to that ball any other move would be Killua's win and I just don't see Netero pulling that out in the context of a game.

 

[howdydodah]

Actually, godspeed boosts his speed though, like literally. There are 3 hatsus Killua showcased in the chimera arc. (forgot the names so I'll just wing it). Kanmaru(reaction enhancement), Godspeed(running speed), lightning needle/sword thingy(paralyze). So, technically, Godspeed can overcome Neteros silent speed(still wingin it) and take the win.

Now if we're talking about a real fight though? Godspeed only enhances speed not strength, and therefore Killua would still hurt his leg if he tries a leg sweep again on Netero, even with Godspeed activated. Kanmaru wouldn't help against Netero's palm strikes, and the lightning sword thingy isn't gonna hit anything.

If he grows older and mastered these 3 and are able to combine them altogether? I think Killua can cut Netero's neck in an instant. This is the point where he matches Cheetuh in combat speed, with the added benefits of stronger/masterful enhanced strikes.

Update:
Also, Tusbune is a very skilled nen user. Her specialty is mobility and therefore her hatsu greatly resembles Godspeed. She can tango with Godspeed but will be left for about a couple of meters(lets say for number's sake 100meters) behind all the time. I guess it's safe to say, they are both the fastest running, human nen users so far.

 

[Copy Panda]

Uh, maybe in the future, but the game is more than just speed; Netero can still use aura to encase his whole self. And also, we're talking about someone 100 years the senior of Killua that went toe to toe with the strongest animal alive at the time; your argument is Godspeed improves speed and Netero's ability doesn't and so that's that... But I'm not sure if Killua could beat him, still.

 

[howdydodah]

Uh, maybe in the future, but the game is more than just speed; Netero can still use aura to encase his whole self. And also, we're talking about someone 100 years the senior of Killua that went toe to toe with the strongest animal alive at the time; your argument is Godspeed improves speed and Netero's ability doesn't and so that's that... But I'm not sure if Killua could beat him, still.

Sure. You can say Netero still overwhelms Killua with raw power, in both physique and nen. He can just enhance the ball along with his hand. and none of them can take it from him. The thing is, the exercise/game wasn't even about who's stronger, it was a game of speed and wits. And as we know Netero, he's all about the challenge. If he can see how fast Killue is, I'm pretty sure he's going to try and match that speed, and if he couldn't, he'd definitely try to outwit him. I'm not even sure that's the rules, I think the rule was, if they touched the ball? IIRC?