Fantasy Kirin vs Erza Scarlet

[MyaHeart35]

you people are forgetting the coffin. kirin most strongest move.
laxus had trouble with it because of his connection to that coffin. remove that and kirin got nothing on laxus
if misaki cant seriously injure erza, then why are we assuming kirin can? is kirin tiers above misaki now?

what kirin move will put down erza? against laxus she never used meteor armudura

Exactly I don't know people realized Erza holded back against Laxus.
Against Laxus she had morals on, against Misaki she was blood lusted. It's clear Erza was stronger than Laxus in the Aldoron Arc.

 

[sharkai]

Exactly I don't know people realized Erza holded back against Laxus.
Against Laxus she had morals on, against Misaki she was blood lusted. It's clear Erza was stronger than Laxus in the Aldoron Arc.

i normally try to give benefit to the other side so what i believe is
laxus used up some magic against kiria
and
erza held back because she is fighting friend

at the end, both couldnt knock eachother out

so about laxus = erza
is fine.

we shouldnt think too much into detail, because mishma himself doesnt

 

[FireIce]

Laxus destroyed Erza's lightning empress armor with a regular punch and his roar. This armor doubles her resistance to lightning. She assumed that if Laxus could break that armor, then he would do the same to all of her others armors because they don't have any resistance to lightning.

Erza may have hold back against Laxus but she went all out towards the end. She literally said she used all of her power. Erza wasn't stronger than Laxus in Aldoron arc. She collapsed first, he literally carried her for most of the rest of the arc. He had already spent magic against Kyria. It's entirely possible he wouldn't have collapsed had he not fought her.

 

[sharkai]

Laxus destroyed Erza's lightning empress armor with a regular punch and his roar. This armor doubles her resistance to lightning. She assumed that if Laxus could break that armor, then he would do the same to all of her others armors because they don't have any resistance to lightning.

Erza may have hold back against Laxus but she went all out towards the end. She literally said she used all of her power. Erza wasn't stronger than Laxus in Aldoron arc. She collapsed first, he literally carried her for most of the rest of the arc. He had already spent magic against Kyria. It's entirely possible he wouldn't have collapsed had he not fought her.

then why didnt erza use armudura meteor against laxus.
erza basically wasted her powers when she wasnt going all out and injured for being careless.

it is also possible that erza would have knocked laxus clean out if she didnt hold back in the start.
we just cant know

 

[Plutogrim]

How is Kirin winning this?
Erza can literally cut through space.
This fight will be just like Laxus vs Kirin. Once Erza figure it out is over for Kirin.

 

[FireIce]

Kirin smashed pre-power up Laxus, who's relative to Erza. Plain and simple. Kirin washes her any day of the week.

 

[sharkai]

Kirin smashed pre-power up Laxus, who's relative to Erza. Plain and simple. Kirin washes her any day of the week.

pre power laxus is not relative to erza using armudura meteor. erza never used that against laxus, instead she used her weakest move, blumblatt

 

[Shoutmon]

Erza is <= Laxus. The fight on Aldoron proved it. She was making mention of how monstrously powerful he was more than once and admitted she had no tricks/hidden moves left at the end and that she had lost the fight.

Kirin, on the other hand, was outright stronger than Laxus (pre-power up). Megaton red lightning got tanked by Kirin when he was fooling around, and a serious Kirin (as the LDK) was so strong that he could override Laxus' lighting resistance with his attacks and deal heavy damage.

Erza's gonna perform even worse against Kirin than Laxus did, cause she has no lighting resistance (outside of her lighting empress armour that got destroyed by one nameless lighting punch), and scaling from Misaki won't work, 'cause not only did Erza barely defeat her, but we also have no idea how their sparring match went. We just know that she got serious against him, and that Selene hyped him up, but not her

 

[sharkai]

Kirin, on the other hand, was outright stronger than Laxus (pre-power up). Megaton red lightning got tanked by Kirin when he was fooling around, and a serious Kirin (as the LDK) was so strong that he could override Laxus' lighting resistance with his attacks and deal heavy damage.

that laxus move is equivalent to low tier erza blumblatt. which misaki tanked as well

Erza is <= Laxus. The fight on Aldoron proved it. She was making mention of how monstrously powerful he was more than once and admitted she had no tricks/hidden moves left at the end and that she had lost the fight.

all the time erza mentioned he was strong, was when she was holding back. what does that mean?
yes, she wasted her mp, when she was holding back.
meteor armudura would have most likely one shot laxus.

erza and laxus are mostly equal.

Erza's gonna perform even worse against Kirin than Laxus did, cause she has no lighting resistance (outside of her lighting empress armour that got destroyed by one nameless lighting punch), and scaling from Misaki won't work, 'cause not only did Erza barely defeat her, but we also have no idea how their sparring match went. We just know that she got serious against him, and that Selene hyped him up, but not her

erza performance will most likely be better, since she wont be effected by kirin strongest move, swinging that coffin. without that, kirin has nothing that will trouble erza
yes, agreed, there is a possibility that misaki beat kirin. which would explain why selene only called kirin contender for the strongest. why casual misaki mp is equal to serious kirin mp, and misaki surprise when erza overpowered her dimension

 

[Shoutmon]

that laxus move is equivalent to low tier erza blumblatt. which misaki tanked as well


all the time erza mentioned he was strong, was when she was holding back. what does that mean?
yes, she wasted her mp, when she was holding back.
meteor armudura would have most likely one shot laxus.

erza and laxus are mostly equal.



erza performance will most likely be better, since she wont be effected by kirin strongest move, swinging that coffin. without that, kirin has nothing that will trouble erza
yes, agreed, there is a possibility that misaki beat kirin. which would explain why selene only called kirin contender for the strongest. why casual misaki mp is equal to serious kirin mp, and misaki surprise when erza overpowered her dimension

Erza stopped holding back when Laxus told her to, and if she could oneshot Laxus with her Armadura Fairy, then why didn't she use it, when it was so imperative for her to stop him? Also, it's a bit strange that you believe them to be mostly equal when you also believe that Erza can oneshot Laxus, 'cause IIRC that meteor slash isn't portrayed to be an outlier attack that would hit above her normal paygrade.

Kirin's lighting is > Laxus' lighting, and Kirin was overwhelming Laxus outside of the coffin. Erza would essentially be fighting a stronger Laxus than the one who beat her (who also has atmosphere powers to throw her off), and why wouldn't Misaki get more substantial hype if she was >= Kirin? Also, Kirin was fooling around, while Misaki intended to kill Erza right on their first meeting, so she could very well not have been as casual as you assume.

Finally, having the same or similar amount of MP =/= being as strong as eachother, just look at the Spriggans

 

[FireIce]

Lol, Laxus (or Kirin for the matter) would destroy Armadura Fairy with one punch/roar. It doesn't have any resistance to lightning unlike Lightning Empress.

 

[sharkai]

Erza stopped holding back when Laxus told her to, and if she could oneshot Laxus with her Armadura Fairy, then why didn't she use it, when it was so imperative for her to stop him? Also, it's a bit strange that you believe them to be mostly equal when you also believe that Erza can oneshot Laxus.

it wasnt imperative. i think it was least stake fight for erza ever. she had near zero motivation to fight laxus

she couldnt because she was holding back. then later she didnt have mp for it.
i believe they are equal but i do wonder what would have happened had erza done that

Kirin's lighting is > Laxus' lighting, and Kirin was overwhelming Laxus outside of the coffin. Erza would essentially be fighting a stronger Laxus than the one who beat her (who also has atmosphere powers to throw her off), and why wouldn't Misaki get more substantial hype if she was >= Kirin? Also, Kirin was fooling around, while Misaki intended to kill Erza right on their first meeting, so she could very well not have been as casual as you assume.

laxus had most problem with that coffin.
the point is kirin isnt the strongest, he is contender for it. so you cant have kirin >>>> Misaki.
at max kirin> misaki
interestingly enough erza is also > misaki

Finally, having the same or similar amount of MP =/= being as strong as eachother, just look at the Spriggans

i will give benefit to misaki, not kirin. kirin has nothing going for him. his coffin was the biggest hurdle for laxus.
and after the fight, we have no indication that laxus has a power up. he and kirin are behaving like natsu and gray

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Lol, Laxus (or Kirin for the matter) would destroy Armadura Fairy with one punch/roar. It doesn't have any resistance to lightning unlike Lightning Empress.

lower down the wank mate.
laxus strongest move was equivalent to erza weakest

 

[FireIce]

lower down the wank mate.
laxus strongest move was equivalent to erza weakest

There is no wank. Erza's lightning empress armor is the only armor of Erza's that is resistant to lightning. It lowers by 50% the damage she normally takes from a lightning based attack. It obviously has better resistance to it than Armadura Fairy, even though it is not stronger than it overall.

The fact that Laxus destroyed Lightning Empress with a punch and a roar speaks for itself. Erza said that if Laxus could break that armor, then all of her armors are useless against him.

Don't know from where you are getting that Blumenblatt is Erza's weakest move. She used that against a god tier like Mercphobia.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Laxus destroyed Erza's lightning empress armor with a regular punch and his roar. This armor doubles her resistance to lightning. She assumed that if Laxus could break that armor, then he would do the same to all of her others armors because they don't have any resistance to lightning.

Erza may have hold back against Laxus but she went all out towards the end. She literally said she used all of her power. Erza wasn't stronger than Laxus in Aldoron arc. She collapsed first, he literally carried her for most of the rest of the arc. He had already spent magic against Kyria. It's entirely possible he wouldn't have collapsed had he not fought her.

Laxus only woke up first because of the white wizard tho.
The same could be said for Erza. If she didn't held back and wasted her magic power on the enchantments while still holding back. She could have beaten Laxus if she was bloodlusted.


Kirin and Misaki are on the same level (Kirin is stronger). Erza destroyed and overpowered her opponent while Laxus got ragdoll by his. Especially since she used a stronger attacks against Misaki meaning she didn't go all out.

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that laxus move is equivalent to low tier erza blumblatt. which misaki tanked as well


all the time erza mentioned he was strong, was when she was holding back. what does that mean?
yes, she wasted her mp, when she was holding back.
meteor armudura would have most likely one shot laxus.

erza and laxus are mostly equal.



erza performance will most likely be better, since she wont be effected by kirin strongest move, swinging that coffin. without that, kirin has nothing that will trouble erza
yes, agreed, there is a possibility that misaki beat kirin. which would explain why selene only called kirin contender for the strongest. why casual misaki mp is equal to serious kirin mp, and misaki surprise when erza overpowered her dimension

Exactly Erza was the FIRST person to override her dimension by her reaction.

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There is no wank. Erza's lightning empress armor is the only armor of Erza's that is resistant to lightning. It lowers by 50% the damage she normally takes from a lightning based attack. It obviously has better resistance to it than Armadura Fairy, even though it is not stronger than it overall.

The fact that Laxus destroyed Lightning Empress with a punch and a roar speaks for itself. Erza said that if Laxus could break that armor, then all of her armors are useless against him.

Don't know from where you are getting that Blumenblatt is Erza's weakest move. She used that against a god tier like Mercphobia.
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Even though Erza used it against Mercphobia doesn't mean it's her strongest. Erza always uses blumebatt at the start of most fights.

Misaki literally tanked said attack. Erza had to used an attack to overpower Gildarts level magic power to beat Misaki.

Think of if this way Blumebatt = Red lighting.
Fairy Blade Meteor >>>> Blumebatt= Red lighting.

Basically one shotting a Gildarts level magic opponent > tieing with a weaker opponent.

Amurdara Fairy is Erza's strongest armor and add in enchantment on top of that to increase attack power.
In fact Erza was the only person to beat a BDSK without any help or outside assistance.

Laxus needed a power up because he wasn't strong, Erza was.

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There is no wank. Erza's lightning empress armor is the only armor of Erza's that is resistant to lightning. It lowers by 50% the damage she normally takes from a lightning based attack. It obviously has better resistance to it than Armadura Fairy, even though it is not stronger than it overall.

The fact that Laxus destroyed Lightning Empress with a punch and a roar speaks for itself. Erza said that if Laxus could break that armor, then all of her armors are useless against him.

Don't know from where you are getting that Blumenblatt is Erza's weakest move. She used that against a god tier like Mercphobia.

She said her armors were useless but somehow a low tier Erza move in armor and can stalemate Laxus's strongest, when she stops holding back.

 

[sharkai]

There is no wank. Erza's lightning empress armor is the only armor of Erza's that is resistant to lightning. It lowers by 50% the damage she normally takes from a lightning based attack. It obviously has better resistance to it than Armadura Fairy, even though it is not stronger than it overall.

The fact that Laxus destroyed Lightning Empress with a punch and a roar speaks for itself. Erza said that if Laxus could break that armor, then all of her armors are useless against him.

Erza's lightning empress armor is one of the weakest armor erza has.
this standad way erza fight. use armor, get them destroyed, have a lovely strip tease kind of situation. and then actually fight

Don't know from where you are getting that Blumenblatt is Erza's weakest move. She used that against a god tier like Mercphobia.

ok
please list powerful characters who have been taken out by blumblatt

 

[LaGOAT]

Lol make it make sense you guys said kirin is stronger than misaki then said laxus and erza are equal. If kirin ragdolled laxus wouldn’t he have
Did the same with erza?

 

[Darklord#10]

Lol make it sense you guys said kirin is stronger than misaki then said laxus and erza are equal. If kirin ragdolled laxus wouldn’t he have
Did the same with erza?

Bro Erza fans don't use logic. Kirin already beat laxus who is equal to Erza, why wouldn't he do the same to her. I wasn't even going to reply again but Erza fans calling other fanbase hypocrites is the biggest Bullshit I've seen in a while. Remove her feats against Eileen she has nothing on laxus. This is the same fans that even hate Levy, a character who even barely has screentime.

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She could have beaten Laxus if she was bloodlusted.

Bro you're a hypocrite you know that right. You believe bloodlusted Erza will beat laxus but you don't believe bloodlusted natsu will stomp Erza. You keep proving my point that you guys suffer from main character syndrome

 

[Sevently]

Kirin is slighty stronger, but if this fight happens, Erza will win because that's what she always does.

 

[MyaHeart35]

Bro Erza fans don't use logic. Kirin already beat laxus who is equal to Erza, why wouldn't he do the same to her. I wasn't even going to reply again but Erza fans calling other fanbase hypocrites is the biggest Bullshit I've seen in a while. Remove her feats against Eileen she has nothing on laxus. This is the same fans that even hate Levy, a character who even barely has screentime.

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Bro you're a hypocrite you know that right. You believe bloodlusted Erza will beat laxus but you don't believe bloodlusted natsu will stomp Erza. You keep proving my point that you guys suffer from main character syndrome

Because he can't duh. I'm just telling you what happened in the manga.
Bloodlusted Erza destroyed someone who was compared to the same person Laxus got rag doll by.
Canonically Erza > Natsu. Not my fault.

 

[Darklord#10]

Because he can't duh. I'm just telling you what happened in the manga.
Bloodlusted Erza destroyed someone who was compared to the same person Laxus got rag doll by.
Canonically Erza > Natsu. Not my fault.

so bloodlusted natsu is weaker than erza? bloodlusted natsu is literally wanked as a world ending threat

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so bloodlusted natsu is weaker than erza? bloodlusted natsu is literally wanked as a world ending threat

you guys are legit a pain in the ass. animus and aldoron literally said natsu is the destroyer of everything.

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Canonically Erza > Natsu. Not my fault.

lmao ignia does not even want to fight erza. he wants to fight natsu because he believes natsu can give him a good fight not fucking erza. this erza fans have to be the worst fanbase in this damn fandom.