Theory Law's Plan

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The Plot


Source: Chapter 595
Law: . . .We wait for the right moment . . . that's all I'm saying. No need to get hasty, it's not as though One Piece is going anywhere. Even so, with Blackbeard and his crew stirring things up . . . If Pirates are taking each other out, then so much the better for us, no need to get us involved in the small stuff. Now, stop blathering . . . and just do as I say. Where there's a position, I'll take it!
2 Years Later


Source: Chapter 667
Law: I've been doing a little thinking. . . I came ere to discuss something with you, Strawhat!
I don't doubt it was pure chance that brought you here. You don't seem like the kind of guy who would subordinate himself to another Pirate. . . Then form an alliance with us! If you and I work together, we may just be able to pull this off.

I have a plan to take down the Yonko!
Luffy coincidentally arrives at Punk Hazard where Law is currently stationed at, he never anticipated this arrival since he says it was chance that brought him here (fate - which I expand on in a future work).

In-depth Analysis:
Note: Couple thing that needs pointing out is, people who have gone for One Piece have always gone after Emperors:
  • Moriah went after Kaido in his aim to be Pirate King⁽⁴⁵⁶⁾.
  • Crocodile also went after Whitebeard in his aim to be Pirate King (SBS).
Therefore, Law going after a Yonko is consistent with actions one takes to find One Piece. Are there any actions he takes that contradict going after One Piece? If so, we have to ask, why? This will help us determine his true motives as I intend to show with this analysis.

Law's Ambition

Destroying the world was his goal before his days were numbered, and before Rocinante gifted him with prolonged life as well as transforming him from monster to Human. After Rocinante's death, the goal to destroy the world was diffused.

The only thing is, rather than destroy the world, he aimed to find One Piece which requires taking down a Yonko (being Kaido); of course this also includes the benefits of Joker getting killed by bearing the brunt of Kaido's anger; this is killing 2 birds with 1 stone so to speak.

It wouldn't really be any different from Luffy taking a detour to save Ace (essentially postponing meeting with the crew) or obtain Ace's Mera Mera no Mi, we still wouldn't say because of this sentimental detour and digression from objective, he's quit going after One Piece or meeting with his crew, no? Law's take down of Joker isn't any different.

Take note too, that going after One Piece has another purpose, it mirrors the defiance he has towards the World Government after they destroyed his place of birth, along with his parents. The World Government are against those seeking One Piece, what better way than to be rebellious and do the opposite?

Luffy at PH was coincidence

I think its easy to assume that Law was waiting for Luffy, but we know how Luffy got to PH, it was simply coincidence:
  • Luffy saw the Island that was most intriguing as it wasn't even recognized by the Log Pose, it's not like this meeting was planned to begin with.
  • Law also says, this meeting was luck, not planned.
  • Law without knowing of Luffy, was already proceeding with the necessary steps required to take down a Yonko, not something he conjured the moment Luffy appeared. This tells us he's really been planning extensively, and the very fact that he allied with Luffy whom he wasn't expecting was pure coincidence.
  • Robin has also pointed out that such alliances usually end with betrayal.
Was Joker his end-game?
  • Law fighting Joker over the bridge was never a part of the plan. Why then, is he fighting Joker and digressing from the plan?
  • After this fight, Law actually tells us why he became too pre-occupied with Joker (which Sanji pointed out): he got provoked, and this is why Law is warning Luffy to resist Joker's provocation; he makes reference to this by saying "If you don't keep your cool, your life will be forfeit just like me when I faced him before!". Bare in mind, in the lead up to this scene, it's actually not Law's idea to engage with Joker, but Luffy's.
  • Prior to the scene above where Law and Luffy are getting ready to engage Joker, and not long after Law was utterly beat down by Joker on the bridge, Law has come back to his "senses" (well, he's become the pragmatist again and putting his emotions to the side).
  • Law actually reminds Luffy who just promised to defeat Joker, that staying on course with the plan is best, somewhat hypocritical since he actually just tried to kill Joker, but we know he was provoked into doing so due to Joker's aptness at playing mind-games; so we see that Law actually was for sticking with the plan.
  • Luffy ironically, is now the one who is bent on taking down Joker, Law was essentially convinced by Luffy who absolutely insisted on taking down Joker.
  • It is after this scene that Law and Luffy decide to take down Joker as opposed to it being Kaido's doing, and devised the "Red Hawk" and "Gamma Knife" plan to kill Joker.
TL;DR: Ultimately, this proves that Law never abandoned the plan because Joker was his ONLY goal as most seem to believe, he simply got provoked into engaging Joker which wasn't the plan. Joker's just a route to a greater goal, that being, Kaido, and the One Piece.

Law ever intended on regrouping with his crew?

His lack of expectation to return back to his crew⁽⁸⁰⁵⁾, is after he got to Dressrosa, and realized the situation at hand, had turned into a completely different monster. For one, Law didn't quite comprehend the gravity of Vergo's words being that Joker is a Tenryuubito⁽⁶⁹¹⁾, and this is where his plans all went haywire:
  • Law baited or lured the Marines into "Green Bit" specifically by (purposely) appearing to carelessly reveal their next destination to Smoker, why? So, that Joker who he assumed had lost his privileges would be in battle with the Marines (an Admiral & 2 Vice Admirals). This distraction would buy the alliance time to locate and destroy the SMILE factory.
  • Sanji points out that the Kingdom was rather Peaceful despite losing its King; at this points, there are tell-tale signs that things are spiralling out of control. The lack of chaos compromises the plan.
  • Law has also picked up on what Sanji said too, it's too peaceful, plus, the CP-0 are for some reason, in Dressrosa.
  • Prior to reaching Dressrosa, Law's mannerism here reflect his confidence as everything is going to plan; in Law's mind, Joker was in a checkmate being that he was now a mere Pirate, but it's clear as the above shows, something is wrong.
  • Briefly digressing: At Zou, Law said he forgot he had a Vivre-card because he wasn't expecting to get to Zou after Dressrosa arc; in contrast (before Dressrosa), he is well aware he possesses one and ACTUALLY tells us he's heading for Zou. It's pretty clear he thought this plan was going as planned; there's no reason why making it to Zou should not feel like a certainty.
  • When they finally reach Dressrosa, he even gives Nami a Vivre-card (or, tears one off rather) and reminds us that he mentioned Zou, where his crew would be. His crew also drew him a map of Dressrosa, it looks very much like everything was planned; the only problem is, things took a turn for the worse.
And there's only 1 reason why Law has faith in Luffy
  • The hints are here, he states that he's saving Luffy despite being an enemy because they have a "bond". What is this bond?
  • Also, when Rayleigh appears on Sabaody, he says the '"D" will always bring forth a storm'. Digressing a bit, but I believe this is a hint that Rayleigh is a "D", but the bond he's clearly talking about is the fact that he and Luffy are both from the "D" clan.
  • And when Joker asks, why he trusts the SHs so much? It's not that he trusts them per se, it's because of the "D" initial.
It's important to highlight the significance of the SHs arrival when they did. Law didn't offer his heart to Caesar, it was requested, thus, compromising his plans⁽⁶⁷⁵⁾; Monet's ability to assimilate with snow and provide surveillance was unknown to him - she heard Law's plans with Luffy⁽⁶⁷⁵⁾; Vergo's appearance on the very day SAD was heading for Dressrosa would have ended his entire scheme had the SHs not appeared⁽⁶⁷²⁾.

it's coincidence after coincidence of fortunate events; Luffy appears at the right place & time. Law clearly has some belief in fate. The "D" initial is part reason he saved Luffy despite considering him a future enemy and vice-versa⁽⁶⁶³⁾.

Important to note that this mission Law set out on ALONE could have be soloed, but as has been pointed out, a lot of problems arose that meant he had to ally with the SHs.
Conclusion

Law and Luffy may get on well, but that's not reason for them to become Nakama. There are people whom Luffy respects such as Smoker and Coby, but anyone in his way is an enemy. We just can't forget that Law is a Captain with his own crew, and 1 of the 3 main Supernova at that. It would be rather anticlimactic for one such as Law to simply become another fan.

With that said, he's clearly a contender for One Piece and is likely to either split ways with Luffy or betray Luffy; ultimately, Law is still an enemy of Luffy, just like Coby and Smoker are.

 
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Luffy and Law have made an alliance, but they are aware eventually they will have to compete against each other.
 

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Luffy already knows this, or Rather Luffy already made it clear that he is going after One Piece to Law when they fought there way out of the Slave auction alongside Captain Kidd as well. It was made clear that anyone who is trying to go to the 2nd half of the grand line should at least have the resolve to go for your dream. I don't think Luffy would care about Law going after One piece because he wants people to be free to do what the want. However, I cannot see Law do a 180 and become a evil like that. I think lLaw wI'll end up being the Whitebeard to Luffy being this generations Roger.

Edit: Kidd would totally be the Shiki
 

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Law's parents and little sister died because of corrupted WG. It doesn't matter who gets those ancient weapons, Law will steer that person to war with WG just for paying back his personal debt. Taking out DD is only the 1st stage of his plan after all.
 

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Odds are, Law joins the Strawhat Grand Fleet. Luffy just has that effect on people lol
 

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Well, obviously law and luffy are rivals but after all they have gone through and all the hell they are jumping into I have a hard time imagining they will ever be truly enemies. The worst case scenario is a clash at some point over some difference but even then it is unlikely they would try to kill each other. As in, they would be friends through the conflict so to speak.
 

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Law's parents and little sister died because of corrupted WG. It doesn't matter who gets those ancient weapons, Law will steer that person to war with WG just for paying back his personal debt. Taking out DD is only the 1st stage of his plan after all.
That's it. Law is a revenge driven character, and Doffy shouldn't have been the only revenge he wants to take. It is clear that Law wants to become Pirate King to take revenge for his family. If Luffy will also decide to wage war against the government, Law would surely join him, but so far, Luffy hasn't brought One Piece in relation to this.

I think their fate is inevitable, they will clash.
Luffy would never try to kill Law, though the opposite might be the case. Law is, after all, a psychopath. He's real crazy, even though he pretends to be calm and collected all the time.
 

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@Hannibal Psyche - Thanks for highlighting and bringing up the chapter about Law. :super

Law gives me the impression that he has a change of heart. As compared to his old self, he has learned to trust people more, particularly the Straw Hat crew. I believe the more he engages with the crew, the more he is getting closer to them.

When he initially approached the Straw Hat, his purpose was to make use of their power to defeat Joker and eventually Kaido. But after being with them for all these times, he has begun to be friendly with them. I believe he considers them as friends or nakama in Japanese term (Luffy uses it a lot).

Though people may change overtime and sometimes for personal gains such as monetary - in this case, it is "One Piece" - but I hope it would not affect Law. After all, he has gone through life and death with them, specifically Luffy in Dressrosa in the fight with Doflamingo. Law almost lost his life if Luffy didn't intercept Doffy's continual attack.
 

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@Hannibal Psyche - Thanks for highlighting and bringing up the chapter about Law. :super

Law gives me the impression that he has a change of heart. As compared to his old self, he has learned to trust people more, particularly the Straw Hat crew. I believe the more he engages with the crew, the more he is getting closer to them.

When he initially approached the Straw Hat, his purpose was to make use of their power to defeat Joker and eventually Kaido. But after being with them for all these times, he has begun to be friendly with them. I believe he considers them as friends or nakama in Japanese term (Luffy uses it a lot).

Though people may change overtime and sometimes for personal gains such as monetary - in this case, it is "One Piece" - but I hope it would not affect Law. After all, he has gone through life and death with them, specifically Luffy in Dressrosa in the fight with Doflamingo. Law almost lost his life if Luffy didn't intercept Doffy's continual attack.
Yeah, Law had a change of heart, but that is part of the reason why I think he might even intend to kill Luffy at one point, so that he has no regrets when he tries to sacrifice himself again against the WG.

I dunno, Law will be with us for a long time, so his finale has to be very emotional.

Or he dies using the immortality operation on Luffy. Though I don't want Luffy to turn immortal, would be lame...
 

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@Hannibal Psyche - Thanks for highlighting and bringing up the chapter about Law. :super

Law gives me the impression that he has a change of heart. As compared to his old self, he has learned to trust people more, particularly the Straw Hat crew. I believe the more he engages with the crew, the more he is getting closer to them.

When he initially approached the Straw Hat, his purpose was to make use of their power to defeat Joker and eventually Kaido. But after being with them for all these times, he has begun to be friendly with them. I believe he considers them as friends or nakama in Japanese term (Luffy uses it a lot).

Though people may change overtime and sometimes for personal gains such as monetary - in this case, it is "One Piece" - but I hope it would not affect Law. After all, he has gone through life and death with them, specifically Luffy in Dressrosa in the fight with Doflamingo. Law almost lost his life if Luffy didn't intercept Doffy's continual attack.
Thanks,thought would be a good idea to share it. :)

I would like Law to venture out and pursue his own goals, not as an enemy, but as a rival. I feel his character would be wasted if he became too nice, especially with an epithet "Surgeon of Death".

Can also see the possibility he'd remain pretty much an ally of Luffy, but if that's the case, I can see him dying especially with the fact that he's DF grants immortality, I'd imagine someone will be after it and such an ability is something Oda may want to play around with.
 

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Yeah, Law had a change of heart, but that is part of the reason why I think he might even intend to kill Luffy at one point, so that he has no regrets when he tries to sacrifice himself again against the WG.

I dunno, Law will be with us for a long time, so his finale has to be very emotional.

Or he dies using the immortality operation on Luffy. Though I don't want Luffy to turn immortal, would be lame...
Thanks,thought would be a good idea to share it. :)

I would like Law to venture out and pursue his own goals, not as an enemy, but as a rival. I feel his character would be wasted if he became too nice, especially with an epithet "Surgeon of Death".

Can also see the possibility he'd remain pretty much an ally of Luffy, but if that's the case, I can see him dying especially with the fact that he's DF grants immortality, I'd imagine someone will be after it and such an ability is something Oda may want to play around with.
Wow... immortality for Luffy huh ... :hmm Hmmm... if he ever be one day, it might also mean that the series has come to a closure. I imagine that for whatever reason or some event happen, Law has to execute his ability to save Luffy's life, and dies as a result of it. If this is so, it is going to be very heart-breaking and emotional for everyone, even to Luffy himself. In fact I can think of Luffy refusing and rejecting strongly if such an idea ever comes about from Law or anyone else.

Recall the case of Bellamy, Luffy had also reacted similarly as he considered him as his friend. Likewise for Law, he is already Luffy's friend and he would not want to fight him.

Yes, I totally agree on Law with such a special ability is very useful. I hope we can see more plot twist around him pertaining to his devil fruit. Doflamingo was one of those who knew about Law's ability and he was the first person (so far) to seek after him. It was unfortunate that he failed to obtain it.

I believe (and hope) that Doflamingo may not be the first one, there might be more people coming after Law. One person I can think of is Blackbeard. Wow! If BB gets to know about Law's ability, I can imagine he would be charging in and find ways to kill Law, or more like cornering him in such a manner that he would be left with no choice but to execute the ability on him. (Though I doubt Law would be easily threatened for this. In Dressrosa, he did not do it for Doflamingo even at the brink of death.) Well for whatever reason, if this is the case, Luffy will be there to save his (Law's) day, for sure. Ahh... I can also see how their friendship gets strengthen. :super

I think Law and Luffy will be rivals, just as you have mentioned. It can be quite fun if they compete with each other and eventually come to a point where they have to set priority for their relationships, goals and objectives, and what their hearts' desire is.

Hmmm.... Oda is an author who appears to be very creative and he has a lot of "hidden objects" in his pockets (like Doraemon :p) which have not been revealed yet. We would have to wait and see. :^_^

Oh, thanks for the great topic and everyone's sharing. This is so fulfilling in the discussion. Let the ideas flow... :story :super
 
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It would be interesting if in the end both Law and Kaido are on the verge of death, and Law punishes Kaido by making him immortal.
 

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It would be interesting if in the end both Law and Kaido are on the verge of death, and Law punishes Kaido by making him immortal.
It would be a nightmare for One Pieceverse, wouldn't it? Kaido has been becoming quite a handful creature that everyone (Luffy, samurai trio, etc) is seeking him out with the aim of defeating him and taking back Wano kingdom. It may be a funny joke if he obtains immortality. In fact he has the ability of "not being able to die", so what and how does Law's ability affects him? On top of that, Law has to sacrifice his life in order to execute this ability, would he even be willing to do it?

Thinking about it, besides BB, is Kaido also interested in Law, perhaps not for his ability but to kill him? At the end of the day when things are settled in Zou and the team goes to Wano, Law would have every chance to participate in the battle with Shogun and Kaido. He would then have to face all different confrontation from those army. :^_^
 

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In fact I can think of Luffy refusing and rejecting strongly if such an idea ever comes about from Law or anyone else.
Oh no, I'd hate for Luffy to become an immortal, it'd diminish Luff's conviction to an extent imo. I think he certainly reject it as you said, to live forever won't be fun for Luffy especially if he has to see his Nakama die while he lives on.

Maybe Buggy would try to go after Law, I'm sure he would love immortality, haha.
 

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Oh no, I'd hate for Luffy to become an immortal, it'd diminish Luff's conviction to an extent imo. I think he certainly reject it as you said, to live forever won't be fun for Luffy especially if he has to see his Nakama die while he lives on.

Maybe Buggy would try to go after Law, I'm sure he would love immortality, haha.

Immortality for Luffy would mean he has to constantly making friends. :smile-big

It would be very funny if Buggy goes after Law. :loool Can't imagine him trying to defeat Law. But his attempt may be fun to watch since he has always been a comedian figure in One Piece.

Oh... we are speculating ourselves happy.. :Haha
 

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It would be interesting if in the end both Law and Kaido are on the verge of death, and Law punishes Kaido by making him immortal.
My theory on Kaido is that he actually had the immortality surgery performed on him in this situation previously. I think he was fighting the previous Ope Ope no Mi user, and the user gave him immortality because the greatest honor for a warrior like Kaido is to die in battle. (Posted this a long time ago).

As for him vs. Luffy.. I don't see that happening. I think Law is eventually going to see Luffy as someone he looks up to and probably join as an underling crew. Keep in mind how Law acted in Dressrosa when he had no need to keep up appearances. Sticking with Cavendish and saying how Luffy and him are in it together, plus him getting to see Luffy fulfill his revenge on Doffy.
 

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My theory on Kaido is that he actually had the immortality surgery performed on him in this situation previously. I think he was fighting the previous Ope Ope no Mi user, and the user gave him immortality because the greatest honor for a warrior like Kaido is to die in battle. (Posted this a long time ago).

As for him vs. Luffy.. I don't see that happening. I think Law is eventually going to see Luffy as someone he looks up to and probably join as an underling crew. Keep in mind how Law acted in Dressrosa when he had no need to keep up appearances. Sticking with Cavendish and saying how Luffy and him are in it together, plus him getting to see Luffy fulfill his revenge on Doffy.
The big question in this regard is what sort of immortality the fruit would grant. It's one thing to be immortal and another to be invincible. I could buy the fruit making you functionally immortal in regards to age and even diseases however anything beyond that changes the game entirely. With what I mentioned kaido could be immortal but he wouldn't be invincible or unkillable. He would simply have indefinite youth safe for something killing him. I would also question this being something you could do on the fly while fighting. Sure, it could be that way but so far what has been suggested is an operation of sorts... In any case, I would severely question the fruit being able to grant absolute immortality in the sense of the apparent invulnerability kaido seems to have. I would rather think he is simply too strong to be killed by the measly stuff we have seen so far. As a yonko it would take several admirals or comparable people to take him down... Basically falling from skypeia is far less damaging than an attack from someone strong. Which makes sense with terminal velocities (which would still be quite high in his case) and the sheer amount of power people nowadays have (even people much weaker than luffy have earth shattering power).
 

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The thing with Kaido is that he seems both invincible and immortal to some extent, spears for example not working on him, ropes etc
I don't think he's immortal, in the sense that he doesn't age... I don't think that's the case. I don't think he's invincible either as he was defeated by WB, and got captured before

But he really seems durable, we were amazed by DD's tanking abilities, but it seems that Kaido is a whole new level
 

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The thing with Kaido is that he seems both invincible and immortal to some extent, spears for example not working on him, ropes etc
I don't think he's immortal, in the sense that he doesn't age... I don't think that's the case. I don't think he's invincible either as he was defeated by WB, and got captured before

But he really seems durable, we were amazed by DD's tanking abilities, but it seems that Kaido is a whole new level
Well, remember whitebeard? The guy continued fighting well after akainu lava punched half his head away. By the time WB died the manga made the point that he had been stabbed, shot, and whatever else the world government could throw at him hundreds of times. WB wasn't hanged but overall I think it is fairly easy to make a comparison between the two, specially if we consider WB was past his prime. Odds are that Kaido is simply particularly durable, to the point where he seems invincible.
 

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Well, remember whitebeard? The guy continued fighting well after akainu lava punched half his head away. By the time WB died the manga made the point that he had been stabbed, shot, and whatever else the world government could throw at him hundreds of times. WB wasn't hanged but overall I think it is fairly easy to make a comparison between the two, specially if we consider WB was past his prime. Odds are that Kaido is simply particularly durable, to the point where he seems invincible.
I think we should expect such feats from any " great " pirate like WB, Kaido etc
But the weird thing is that Kaido's execution always failed for some reason... WB was durable yes, but it doesn't mean he didn't get stabbed or what not, although it could be the work of Haki but that doesn't match with what Kaido has been doing (aka looking to die)
 
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