Discussion Laxus Dreyar Thread

[Ramen]

What do you mean? You can tell by the darker outline it’s Red. An it has black lightning coming off of it the previous panel. Not to mention all the red lightning coming off it in the next panel. I can’t really defend the shroud changing colors so much, but they were consistent about one thing. Each time he attacks her, we see the main attack is clear with the dark red bolts coming off of her. The mode is a blanket boost.

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Yeah, the same way him having scales in the fight after a massive power boost wasn’t dragon force because nobody said it was. Have I missed something and they’ve named every minor blast? If they haven’t

And? Still not been hinted at. Every time weve seen DF it's been said this is the power of DF. You really think he is going to release his DF in front of Natsu and Gajeel and no one is gonna say anything? Even Erza knew it was DF during ToH.

Again, not a light beam

 

[GL_Nova]

And? Still not been hinted at. Every time weve seen DF it's been said this is the power of DF. You really think he is going to release his DF in front of Natsu and Gajeel and no one is gonna say anything? Even Erza knew it was DF during ToH.

Again, not a light beam

Every time? Who is it that should have made this announcement? Who was supposed to recognize it? Erza wasn’t there

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Oh yeah bro, that proof really convinced me.

 

[Ramen]

Every time? Who is it that should have made this announcement? Who was supposed to recognize it? Erza wasn’t there

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Oh yeah bro, that proof really convinced me.

Sting and Rogue announced their's during the GMG.
Erza announced Natsu's
Wendy IIRC was against Ezel
Gajeel's, depends if you believe that's a DF, against Bloodman.
Even fifth gens DF has been mentioned.

The common denominator is that all these DF's were said to be DF's and that's why we know of them. Laxus? Not so much.

Erza knew it was Natsu's DF during the ToH, then Gajeel and Natsu should've known it was Laxus DF and said something but they didn't. How does a regular mage know but not two DS? I find it really hard to believe that a DF was used but never again and not even a slight hint to it. Isn't DF supposed to the strongest a DS can be? Why not use it again since apparently he can use it at will? That's because it wasn't a DF, it was him switching from regular Lightning to Lightning DS magic. Do you think Cobra uses DF every time he utilizes his poison hands?

Am I the only claiming Laxus used a light beam over a drawing? You trying to argue this over a drawing is very shallow.

 

[GL_Nova]

Sting and Rogue announced their's during the GMG.
Erza announced Natsu's
Wendy IIRC was against Ezel
Gajeel's, depends if you believe that's a DF, against Bloodman.
Even fifth gens DF has been mentioned.

The common denominator is that all these DF's were said to be DF's and that's why we know of them. Laxus? Not so much.

Erza knew it was Natsu's DF during the ToH, then Gajeel and Natsu should've known it was Laxus DF and said something but they didn't. How does a regular mage know but not two DS? I find it really hard to believe that a DF was used but never again and not even a slight hint to it. Isn't DF supposed to the strongest a DS can be? Why not use it again since apparently he can use it at will? That's because it wasn't a DF, it was him switching from regular Lightning to Lightning DS magic. Do you think Cobra uses DF every time he utilizes his poison hands?

Am I the only claiming Laxus used a light beam over a drawing? You trying to argue this over a drawing is very shallow.

That logic doesn’t hold up. Erza didn’t stop Natsu and sit him down and explain dragon force. It wasn’t until later in the series that we see for sure he gets what it is. So why would he and Gajeel, who haven’t served as exposition for anything of importance the entire series now necessary for proof it was DF? That doesn’t hold a ton of water bro.

That comparison is a poor one. Eric’s DS magic requires poison that’s said to come from his dragon scales right? Gajeel is also actively said to have his entire fighting style based around transforming his skin to Iron Dragon Scales. Show me a time that a DS had dragon scales and it wasn’t dragon force other than these two instances that are actively explained. Any other examples?

It’s a manga, this is literally 100s of pages of arguing over pictures. It’s what our fandom is. What else you got?

 

[Ramen]

That logic doesn’t hold up. Erza didn’t stop Natsu and sit him down and explain dragon force. It wasn’t until later in the series that we see for sure he gets what it is. So why would he and Gajeel, who haven’t served as exposition for anything of importance the entire series now necessary for proof it was DF? That doesn’t hold a ton of water bro.

That comparison is a poor one. Eric’s DS magic requires poison that’s said to come from his dragon scales right? Gajeel is also actively said to have his entire fighting style based around transforming his skin to Iron Dragon Scales. Show me a time that a DS had dragon scales and it wasn’t dragon force other than these two instances that are actively explained. Any other examples?

It’s a manga, this is literally 100s of pages of arguing over pictures. It’s what our fandom is. What else you got?

How does it not hold up? It doesn't need explaining, no one mentioned it was a DF and he never used it again so why would it be? That's because it wasn't. Look at all the DF's we know that were confirmed, they all had body changes. Laxus had only scales? That doesn't prove anything. How would Erza know but not Natsu and Gajeel? A DF is something very powerful but no one mentions it? Yea ok.

Literally the arc before Natsu uses DF so you saying it's not necessary because they haven't served for anything "important" is wrong. DF has been shown before and it was mentioned so why not do the same for Laxus?

Makes no sense, all dragons have scales, so I'm asking if you think it's a DF all because of scales? Scales were shown because it was said he released his DS Magic as he was using regular lightning magic at the beginning of the battle. Him releasing his DS doesn't=DF

Not the same thing. You saying it was a light beam because of the way it was drawn is very shallow.

 

[GL_Nova]

How does it not hold up? It doesn't need explaining, no one mentioned it was a DF and he never used it again so why would it be? That's because it wasn't. Look at all the DF's we know that were confirmed, they all had body changes. Laxus had only scales? That doesn't prove anything. How would Erza know but not Natsu and Gajeel? A DF is something very powerful but no one mentions it? Yea ok.

Literally the arc before Natsu uses DF so you saying it's not necessary because they haven't served for anything "important" is wrong. DF has been shown before and it was mentioned so why not do the same for Laxus?

Makes no sense, all dragons have scales, so I'm asking if you think it's a DF all because of scales? Scales were shown because it was said he released his DS Magic as he was using regular lightning magic at the beginning of the battle. Him releasing his DS doesn't=DF

Not the same thing. You saying it was a light beam because of the way it was drawn is very shallow.

Body changes? What is you talking about? Literally all they do is grow scales, the only one with regular “Body Changes” was Wendy. An she’s an exception. Rogue, Sting, Natsu, Gajeel they all grow scales. That’s DF. Do you mean the transformation into a dragon? Cause DF is just growing scales on they extremities and face. What more does he need to prove? Also when do they call out DF? Even against Sting and Rogue they don’t stop and go, oh it’s dragon force. Everybody else does.


First of all, I’ve spoken to this already, what’s the goal in continuing to ask for new reasons? Mine were clearly stated and are already being discussed. Do you have new evidence to provide? It was shown once and explained. That’s not something that’s normally done continuously. An as mentioned previously, I thinks it’s more likely that the lack of understanding with this instance is why it was stated for the others when they did it.


Again, the entirety of the manga disagrees with you. When Dragon Slayer mages use DS magic And grow scales based on the amount Of dragon magic and power they are using, that’s DF!! Like literally. If you have a different definition please provide it.

An I feel like you requiring an author’s note to denote each thing as it happens is very limited. It’s clearly drawn as a light blast, but you think the scales are just a random occurrence. So I accept we clearly just look at the world different.

 

[Kiki]

I wonder when Laxus learned Fairy Law.... if he learned it from Makarov (training together) then it must be before he turned into a rebel youngster. If he learned it from a book, then it can be at any time..

 

[Ramen]

Body changes? What is you talking about? Literally all they do is grow scales, the only one with regular “Body Changes” was Wendy. An she’s an exception. Rogue, Sting, Natsu, Gajeel they all grow scales. That’s DF. Do you mean the transformation into a dragon? Cause DF is just growing scales on they extremities and face. What more does he need to prove? Also when do they call out DF? Even against Sting and Rogue they don’t stop and go, oh it’s dragon force. Everybody else does.


First of all, I’ve spoken to this already, what’s the goal in continuing to ask for new reasons? Mine were clearly stated and are already being discussed. Do you have new evidence to provide? It was shown once and explained. That’s not something that’s normally done continuously. An as mentioned previously, I thinks it’s more likely that the lack of understanding with this instance is why it was stated for the others when they did it.


Again, the entirety of the manga disagrees with you. When Dragon Slayer mages use DS magic And grow scales based on the amount Of dragon magic and power they are using, that’s DF!! Like literally. If you have a different definition please provide it.

An I feel like you requiring an author’s note to denote each thing as it happens is very limited. It’s clearly drawn as a light blast, but you think the scales are just a random occurrence. So I accept we clearly just look at the world different.

So you ignore everything I clearly said......cool.

Wanna believe it was a DF? Go ahead....I've shown it's not, up to you to believe

 

[GL_Nova]

So you ignore everything I clearly said......cool.

Wanna believe it was a DF? Go ahead....I've shown it's not, up to you to believe

You literally didn’t show anything. Your argument is because it’s not stated it’s not so, while providing no real alternative explanation to him using DF.

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I respect your opinion and find your arguments often interesting. I just don’t agree with this one.

 

[Ramen]

You literally didn’t show anything. Your argument is because it’s not stated it’s not so, while providing no real alternative explanation to him using DF.

I did.....but I'm not getting into this because it's pointless.

More than just statements but sure let's agree to disagree. Who cares

 

[Karna]

Laxus with DF would make Jellal leave the manga.

 

[GL_Nova]

So am I the only one who thinks a fight like this last one is the best we could hope for against Gildarts right now? An that would be more than thrilled to get it?

 

[sharkai]

getting another scene where two good guys fight each would be difficult

 

[GL_Nova]

getting another scene where two good guys fight each would be difficult

It’s super unlikely, but while I eagerly await new combat feats and victories, the only thing I expect is to see him come full circle. I’m waiting to see him become the master.

 

[sharkai]

It’s super unlikely, but while I eagerly await new combat feats and victories, the only thing I expect is to see him come full circle. I’m waiting to see him become the master.

crossed fingers for markrov demise