How is laxus faster than erza?
How is his endurance anywhere near as high as erza?
When did laxus shit on ajeel?
You think someone who could make dimeria shit herself will have his punch stopped by ajeel. Lol
Didn't know ajeel was top tier springgan.
Laxus wins low diff. After Irene fight Erza's probably gonna have a power up that allows her to surpass him, but as for now he is still much more superior.
Actually the order is Senseless Tartaros Erza>Kyoka>Tartaros Erza. Though there really is no need to separate Senseless Tartaros Erza and Tartaros Erza, they're the same. Tartaros Erza was too weak to prevent Kyoka from taking her senses, but still strong enough to beat her without them, doesnt really make sense but there it is, either way it was a fair fight with an extreme diff win from Erza, which means PoF or not Erza>Kyoka, albeit by a slight amount.
Laxus without asspulls>>Azir as he effortlessly rekt him
All Laxus asspull achieved during his fight with Wahl was making it a fair fight by removing his crippling sickness and his opponents immunity to his element, and what did we get with those two things removed? A oneshot.
laxus
never wrecked ajeel. He didn't even hurt his ego.
Senseless erza would be equal to erza only and only if nearly dead laxus is equal to laxus
Laxus isn't one shotting any springgan other than nienhart without going all out. Like erza nakagami
Think of it this way.
Incompacitate August for five seconds, like laxus was, and have brandish have a go at him.
Do you really think August will survive?
Well nearly dead laxus survived all wahl assault. Well either laxus is tiers above August, or it was just plot nonsense. Or Wahl can even take out lucy, which ever you like.
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How is laxus faster than erza?
How is his endurance anywhere near as high as erza?
When did laxus shit on ajeel?
You think someone who could make dimeria shit herself will have his punch stopped by ajeel. Lol
Didn't know ajeel was top tier springgan.
yes, laxus stopped a causal spell of ajeel, which was meant for fodders. ajeel was never serious before sand world.
"dropping a nuke which would give Ajeel a moderate damage at least????"
sure why not
beside it takes what three hits from erza to put ajeel down in the first place
wahl is not shown to be fast unlike ajeel. so no, you cant just make a comparison like that.
max we can say is lb laxus is faster than non red pant and fast armors erza, big deal.
no he is not. red lightening compared with nakagami. not much difference. hell, nakagami might actually be stronger, since red lightening only killed wahl, because he couldnt analyze lightening, which is his weakness.
end mode natsu >>> laxus
and end mode natsu punch can be stopped by erza bare hand.
so no stomping.
laxus
never wrecked ajeel. He didn't even hurt his ego.
Senseless erza would be equal to erza only and only if nearly dead laxus is equal to laxus
Laxus isn't one shotting any springgan other than nienhart without going all out. Like erza nakagami
Think of it this way.
Incompacitate August for five seconds, like laxus was, and have brandish have a go at him.
Do you really think August will survive?
Well nearly dead laxus survived all wahl assault. Well either laxus is tiers above August, or it was just plot nonsense. Or Wahl can even take out lucy, which ever you like.
Yeah he did, Azir's encounter with Laxus lasted about 2 seconds and before that measly bit of time was up Azir already needed August to save his life.
No, we have seen dying Laxus against Wahl, he wasnt doing too good, we have also seen non dying Laxus against Wahl, and he oneshot him, so healthy Laxus(relatively speaking)>MBP Laxus.
We have also seen healthy Erza fight Kyoka and can compare it to senseless Erza, senseless Erza did far better, i mean healthy Erza was the one who got her senses stolen in the first place, if she was actually a lot stronger than Kyoka that would never have happened.
Why would it make a difference if Erza was senseless anyway? Did being senseless stop her from holding her sword? Did it stop her from knowing where to swing that sword? Taking senses doesnt cause damage, it doesnt lower Erza's strength. Senseless Erza isnt any weaker than normal Erza because it literally had zero affect on her combat ability, she could still do all the things she could do before, frankly a simple damaging attack like Jackal's Exploding Spiral would have served Kyoka better, cause taking Erza's senses literally achieved nothing.
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Oh and yes, August would survive, easily, the only reason he took as much damage as he did was because it was a surprise attack. Laxus tanking Wahl's attack is proof Laxus durability>>Erza's
Yeah he did, Azir's encounter with Laxus lasted about 2 seconds and before that measly bit of time was up Azir already needed August to save his life.
No, we have seen dying Laxus against Wahl, he wasnt doing too good, we have also seen non dying Laxus against Wahl, and he oneshot him, so healthy Laxus(relatively speaking)>MBP Laxus.
We have also seen healthy Erza fight Kyoka and can compare it to senseless Erza, senseless Erza did far better, i mean healthy Erza was the one who got her senses stolen in the first place, if she was actually a lot stronger than Kyoka that would never have happened.
Why would it make a difference if Erza was senseless anyway? Did being senseless stop her from holding her sword? Did it stop her from knowing where to swing that sword? Taking senses doesnt cause damage, it doesnt lower Erza's strength. Senseless Erza isnt any weaker than normal Erza because it literally had zero affect on her combat ability, she could still do all the things she could do before, frankly a simple damaging attack like Jackal's Exploding Spiral would have served Kyoka better, cause taking Erza's senses literally achieved nothing.
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Oh and yes, August would survive, easily, the only reason he took as much damage as he did was because it was a surprise attack. Laxus tanking Wahl's attack is proof Laxus durability>>Erza's
Dude, the guy was proclaiming himself God after his near "death" experience. That's kinda hard to believe.
Erza would hit harder faster with senses. Would actually be able to block and be able to fight.
And stealing senses have nothing to do with strenght.
August was caught by surprise or is incapacitated. Big difference
The only reason laxus survived and won was because erza survived andwon. basicaly everyone would have won. It's called plot.
After laxus recovered he didn't one shot Wahl. He nakamized one shot a laughing Wahl who had his arm spread in non defence position.
Basically have August do the same and brandish would remove his head with a butter knife.
You. Mean erza surviving ajeel sand for nearly as long as Lucy gave a brandish a bath is proof of erza durability>>> laxus durability
You mean erza surviving ajeel sand for nearlt as long as Lucy gave brandish a bath is a proof of erza durability>>> laxus durability
Dude, the guy was proclaiming himself God after his near "death" experience. That's kinda hard to believe.
Erza would hit harder faster with senses. Would actually be able to block and be able to fight.
And stealing senses have nothing to do with strenght.
August was caught by surprise or is incapacitated. Big difference
The only reason laxus survived and won was because erza survived andwon. basicaly everyone would have won. It's called plot.
After laxus recovered he didn't one shot Wahl. He nakamized one shot a laughing Wahl who had his arm spread in non defence position.
Basically have August do the same and brandish would remove his head with a butter knife.
You. Mean erza surviving ajeel sand for nearly as long as Lucy gave a brandish a bath is proof of erza durability>>> laxus durability
You mean erza surviving ajeel sand for nearlt as long as Lucy gave brandish a bath is a proof of erza durability>>> laxus durability
Azir being so full of himself that he'd proclaim himself God just makes it all the more believable. Especially since August, a guy who is miles stronger, smarter and unbias disagrees and felt the need to protect him.
No she wouldnt, we saw Erza with her senses and she didnt hit any harder or any faster, she was still able to evade without them too.
Of course stealing senses has to do with strength, if Erza was stronger she wouldnt have allowed Kyoka to take them, but instead Erza allowed herself to get hit by Kyoka's Sensory Curse, lay there on the ground while Kyoka stomped on her and let Kyoka take her senses, if Erza was stronger there was no way she would have let all that happen.
August survived cause he's simply out of Brandish's league, even with a massive wound to the gut he casually put her to sleep and nuked team Natsu, August in Laxus' position does the exact same thing.
Laxus survived cause he has the durability to survive, just like Erza survived cause she had the durability to survive.
He blitzed a laughing Wahl before he could do anything and oneshot him, overwhelming his immunity to lightning with pure power(and yes, PoF).
No, i mean Laxus surviving Wahl's attack while dying of magic cancer proves his durability is superior. Erza tanked Azir's Sand Whirlwind sure, and for quite a while, but it is still just one attack, tanking one attack isnt that impressive, especially since Elfman and Lisanna are both tanking more than that and we saw that Azir casually grabbing Erza by the throat left her at his mercy.
yes, laxus stopped a causal spell of ajeel, which was meant for fodders. ajeel was never serious before sand world.
"dropping a nuke which would give Ajeel a moderate damage at least????"
sure why not
beside it takes what three hits from erza to put ajeel down in the first place
wahl is not shown to be fast unlike ajeel. so no, you cant just make a comparison like that.
max we can say is lb laxus is faster than non red pant and fast armors erza, big deal.
no he is not. red lightening compared with nakagami. not much difference. hell, nakagami might actually be stronger, since red lightening only killed wahl, because he couldnt analyze lightening, which is his weakness.
end mode natsu >>> laxus
and end mode natsu punch can be stopped by erza bare hand.
so no stomping.
Azir being so full of himself that he'd proclaim himself God just makes it all the more believable. Especially since August, a guy who is miles stronger, smarter and unbias disagrees and felt the need to protect him.
No she wouldnt, we saw Erza with her senses and she didnt hit any harder or any faster, she was still able to evade without them too.
Of course stealing senses has to do with strength, if Erza was stronger she wouldnt have allowed Kyoka to take them, but instead Erza allowed herself to get hit by Kyoka's Sensory Curse, lay there on the ground while Kyoka stomped on her and let Kyoka take her senses, if Erza was stronger there was no way she would have let all that happen.
August survived cause he's simply out of Brandish's league, even with a massive wound to the gut he casually put her to sleep and nuked team Natsu, August in Laxus' position does the exact same thing.
Laxus survived cause he has the durability to survive, just like Erza survived cause she had the durability to survive.
He blitzed a laughing Wahl before he could do anything and oneshot him, overwhelming his immunity to lightning with pure power(and yes, PoF).
No, i mean Laxus surviving Wahl's attack while dying of magic cancer proves his durability is superior. Erza tanked Azir's Sand Whirlwind sure, and for quite a while, but it is still just one attack, tanking one attack isnt that impressive, especially since Elfman and Lisanna are both tanking more than that and we saw that Azir casually grabbing Erza by the throat left her at his mercy.
She was just causual before I gues. No way blind erza is equal to non blind erza. Period.
No, his gGod ego would have taken a hit. But it didn't. Meaning he felt he was literally in no danger.
Wahl didn't have time. Sure he was laughing his head off after all
Irrelevant, if brandish had one more second of incapacited august, he would have been In two pieces.
Erza was under that attack for ahuge amount of time. So hard to say one missle of Wahl is equal to ajeel attack for God knows how long.
Lisana is surviving same reason as laxus survived and same as levy survived. Basically plot. Good guys have to win.
Yes ajeel did a hidden move which allowed him to grab erza by the neck and then hax kicked in. Laxus wouldbe in same situation as well
Azir being so full of himself that he'd proclaim himself God just makes it all the more believable. Especially since August, a guy who is miles stronger, smarter and unbias disagrees and felt the need to protect him.
No she wouldnt, we saw Erza with her senses and she didnt hit any harder or any faster, she was still able to evade without them too.
Of course stealing senses has to do with strength, if Erza was stronger she wouldnt have allowed Kyoka to take them, but instead Erza allowed herself to get hit by Kyoka's Sensory Curse, lay there on the ground while Kyoka stomped on her and let Kyoka take her senses, if Erza was stronger there was no way she would have let all that happen.
August survived cause he's simply out of Brandish's league, even with a massive wound to the gut he casually put her to sleep and nuked team Natsu, August in Laxus' position does the exact same thing.
Laxus survived cause he has the durability to survive, just like Erza survived cause she had the durability to survive.
He blitzed a laughing Wahl before he could do anything and oneshot him, overwhelming his immunity to lightning with pure power(and yes, PoF).
No, i mean Laxus surviving Wahl's attack while dying of magic cancer proves his durability is superior. Erza tanked Azir's Sand Whirlwind sure, and for quite a while, but it is still just one attack, tanking one attack isnt that impressive, especially since Elfman and Lisanna are both tanking more than that and we saw that Azir casually grabbing Erza by the throat left her at his mercy.
She was just causual before I gues. No way blind erza is equal to non blind erza. Period.
No, his gGod ego would have taken a hit. But it didn't. Meaning he felt he was literally in no danger.
Wahl didn't have time. Sure he was laughing his head off after all
He didn't over come Wahl immunity with power. He overcame it becausellightening had nakama in i
. Wahl couldn't analyze it. Thus not being able to convert it this being super weak to it.
Irrelevant, if brandish had one more second of incapacited august, he would have been In two pieces.
Erza was under that attack for ahuge amount of time. So hard to say one missle of Wahl is equal to ajeel attack for God knows how long.
Lisana is surviving same reason as laxus survived and same as levy survived. Basically plot. Good guys have to win.
Yes ajeel did a hidden move which allowed him to grab erza by the neck and then hax kicked in. Laxus wouldbe in same situation as well
She was just causual before I gues. No way blind erza is equal to non blind erza. Period.
No, his gGod ego would have taken a hit. But it didn't. Meaning he felt he was literally in no danger.
Wahl didn't have time. Sure he was laughing his head off after all
Irrelevant, if brandish had one more second of incapacited august, he would have been In two pieces.
Erza was under that attack for ahuge amount of time. So hard to say one missle of Wahl is equal to ajeel attack for God knows how long.
Lisana is surviving same reason as laxus survived and same as levy survived. Basically plot. Good guys have to win.
Yes ajeel did a hidden move which allowed him to grab erza by the neck and then hax kicked in. Laxus wouldbe in same situation as well
Well actually if anything blind Erza is superior judging by her performance, like i said, could still swing a sword in the right direction.
And lol at Erza being casual as Kyoka trampled on top of her, taking her senses, while FACE had almost finished its countdown. I mean if we've learned anything about Erza its that she takes fights casually when her friends/family and the entire world are in danger, right?
The look on Azir's face as he stared down the nuke says otherwise, in other words Azir is all talk, when faced with Laxus' actual nuke he was shitting his pants, when he was in the clear and danger free, then he can talk shit freely. August on the other hand is an incredibly reliable and unbias source.
If Brandish had another hour of August incapacitated she'd still end up asleep, this is August we're talking about, he can tank a few sword slashes.
Yeah, Erza tanked it a few minutes, i'd equate it roughly to one Rocket Punch from Frivolous Wahl, Assault Wahl at the most.
Even Historia Frivolous Wahl could do massive damage to someone of Minerva's caliber, yet the true Azir still hasnt beaten bloody Elfman and Lisana.
Assault Wahl's attack power>Wahl's attack power>Historia Wahl's attack power>Azir's nameless whirlwind.
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Azir teleported in front of Erza, and she couldnt react to it, she then proceeded to receive the damage she was due for not dodging the attack.
Laxus could either dodge the attack with his speed, overpower and escape Azir's grip(if for some reason Laxus let himself get grabbed) with his strength and of course tank it and nuke Azir without needing to break free at all
Lmaoooo high diff ? Are you kidding me ? Laxus while being nerfed destroyed a spriggans while erza was getting stomped by ajeel..just stop man, laxus low diff at max
man
are we talking about same part of the arc in which, natsu shat himself just looking at brandush and tried not using igneel power straight off the bat.
instead of you know, one shotting her as we all come to know now he can.
ajeel isnt weaker than wahl. infact wahl will lose to him, after all wahl is made of metal, kinda like those swords, which turned to dust after hitting ajeel.
no, i am actually making a comparison like you tried to when you said look at ajeel and wahl fight.
if ajeel and wahl are equal
only then do we get lb laxus is faster than non red pant and fast armor erza
and then we also get
nakamaized laxus red lightening with extra effectiveness equal or around erza nakagami.
becuase nakamized laxus should be logically above erza.
and we havent seen nakamaized erza yet
other than small event in which she stopped end mode natsu punch.
loved the people comments though, how people thought his punch should have destroyed erza hands not just injured them.
Well actually if anything blind Erza is superior judging by her performance, like i said, could still swing a sword in the right direction.
And lol at Erza being casual as Kyoka trampled on top of her, taking her senses, while FACE had almost finished its countdown. I mean if we've learned anything about Erza its that she takes fights casually when her friends/family and the entire world are in danger, right?
The look on Azir's face as he stared down the nuke says otherwise, in other words Azir is all talk, when faced with Laxus' actual nuke he was shitting his pants, when he was in the clear and danger free, then he can talk shit freely. August on the other hand is an incredibly reliable and unbias source.
If Brandish had another hour of August incapacitated she'd still end up asleep, this is August we're talking about, he can tank a few sword slashes.
Yeah, Erza tanked it a few minutes, i'd equate it roughly to one Rocket Punch from Frivolous Wahl, Assault Wahl at the most.
Even Historia Frivolous Wahl could do massive damage to someone of Minerva's caliber, yet the true Azir still hasnt beaten bloody Elfman and Lisana.
Assault Wahl's attack power>Wahl's attack power>Historia Wahl's attack power>Azir's nameless whirlwind.
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Azir teleported in front of Erza, and she couldnt react to it, she then proceeded to receive the damage she was due for not dodging the attack.
Laxus could either dodge the attack with his speed, overpower and escape Azir's grip(if for some reason Laxus let himself get grabbed) with his strength and of course tank it and nuke Azir without needing to break free at all
unfortunatly, the most perfect source would be the mental effect it had on ajeel. which was non. confidence normally take a hits when you get seriously trashed.
look on his face kinda resembles acno face when he nearly got nuked by irene. only the light effect is different. and maybe some more shock.
erza had plenty of time and she didnt know what etherious koyoka could do. so yeah
august didnt tank one sword when he was taken by suprise, he aint tanking anything when he is incapacitated.
yeah, i agree. ajeel bitch slap above wahl etherious cannon. but maybe we should stop wanking, no?
laxus aint dodging anything erza couldnt dodge. he aint reacting to anything erza didnt react to either.
he cant over power ajeel grip, because ajeel dehydrate with that grip. weakened erza couldnt even hold her swords. so laxus nuking is also amusing to think about.
Lmaoooo high diff ? Are you kidding me ? Laxus while being nerfed destroyed a spriggans while erza was getting stomped by ajeel..just stop man, laxus low diff at max
lol
Laxus while being nerfed destroyed a spriggans
yes, kinda like a how sensless erza took out koyoka
so unless you believe
tartarus erza > mard > sensless erza> koyoka
then you shouldnt believe
the plot armor laxus had in his bs fight
yes, laxus stopped a causal spell of ajeel, which was meant for fodders. ajeel was never serious before sand world.
"dropping a nuke which would give Ajeel a moderate damage at least????"
sure why not
beside it takes what three hits from erza to put ajeel down in the first place
wahl is not shown to be fast unlike ajeel. so no, you cant just make a comparison like that.
max we can say is lb laxus is faster than non red pant and fast armors erza, big deal.
no he is not. red lightening compared with nakagami. not much difference. hell, nakagami might actually be stronger, since red lightening only killed wahl, because he couldnt analyze lightening, which is his weakness.
end mode natsu >>> laxus
and end mode natsu punch can be stopped by erza bare hand.
so no stomping.
Sands of Death is absolutely NOT a casual spell of Ajeel, its effects are way more impressive than Sandworld. Sands of Death actually has the potential to murder a bunch of people at the same time, while Sandworld is more like an increasement of Ajeel's advantage. Laxus disabling Sands of Death with a casual spell is a thing.
Also, do you really believe that Laxus can't block a punch of E.N.D. with his hands while Erza can? Do you actually think Erza is superior to Laxus when it comes to physical strength? Oh well.
unfortunatly, the most perfect source would be the mental effect it had on ajeel. which was non. confidence normally take a hits when you get seriously trashed.
look on his face kinda resembles acno face when he nearly got nuked by irene. only the light effect is different. and maybe some more shock.
erza had plenty of time and she didnt know what etherious koyoka could do. so yeah
august didnt tank one sword when he was taken by suprise, he aint tanking anything when he is incapacitated.
yeah, i agree. ajeel bitch slap above wahl etherious cannon. but maybe we should stop wanking, no?
laxus aint dodging anything erza couldnt dodge. he aint reacting to anything erza didnt react to either.
he cant over power ajeel grip, because ajeel dehydrate with that grip. weakened erza couldnt even hold her swords. so laxus nuking is also amusing to think about.
Mental affect? Why would there be a mental affect lol, Erza beat him and he was still cocky as ever. The most reliable source is August, even if i were to believe that Azir thought he could survive that nuke, August still disagrees, and i'll take the King of Magic's opinion on the power of a spell over Azir's any day.
Plenty of time to do what? Get her senses stolen? She was quite literally getting crushed under Kyoka's heel, so yeah. Oh and lets not forget the fact that in the end Erza failed, she couldnt beat Kyoka fast enough to stop FACE, she couldnt even finish Kyoka off herself, so lol at having plenty of time.
Azir's bitch slap? Haha, alright buddy. Anyway, not wanking, just looking at the feats, Azir's whirlwinds havent even beaten the likes of Lisana and Elfman, while Historia Frivolous Wahl has proven capable of dealing great damage to Minerva, the fact is that Azir simply doesnt have great offense, especially his casual DoT whirlwinds.
I suppose he'd oneshot Azir pretty fast, so i guess if you put it that way, yeah, Laxus wont be dodging anything.
Sands of Death is absolutely NOT a casual spell of Ajeel, its effects are way more impressive than Sandworld. Sands of Death actually has the potential to murder a bunch of people at the same time, while Sandworld is more like an increasement of Ajeel's advantage. Laxus disabling Sands of Death with a casual spell is a thing.
Also, do you really believe that Laxus can't block a punch of E.N.D. with his hands while Erza can? Do you actually think Erza is superior to Laxus when it comes to physical strength? Oh well.
It doesn't matter what you think of it, it was clearly stated in the manga. that ajeel was finally getting serious after sand world. Before that he took everybody as fodders. Including laxus. That was why he was asking erza if there was anyone stronger.
Since laxus is weaker than end mode natsu so no. Not without some defensive spell.
Mental affect? Why would there be a mental affect lol, Erza beat him and he was still cocky as ever. The most reliable source is August, even if i were to believe that Azir thought he could survive that nuke, August still disagrees, and i'll take the King of Magic's opinion on the power of a spell over Azir's any day.
Plenty of time to do what? Get her senses stolen? She was quite literally getting crushed under Kyoka's heel, so yeah. Oh and lets not forget the fact that in the end Erza failed, she couldnt beat Kyoka fast enough to stop FACE, she couldnt even finish Kyoka off herself, so lol at having plenty of time.
Azir's bitch slap? Haha, alright buddy. Anyway, not wanking, just looking at the feats, Azir's whirlwinds havent even beaten the likes of Lisana and Elfman, while Historia Frivolous Wahl has proven capable of dealing great damage to Minerva, the fact is that Azir simply doesnt have great offense, especially his casual DoT whirlwinds.
I suppose he'd oneshot Azir pretty fast, so i guess if you put it that way, yeah, Laxus wont be dodging anything.
Lol
Let's just hope laxus doesn't one shot dragon aconologia. The way he is going, it shouldn't take too long
Near death experience leaves a mental effect
.
No she was not. That happened after koyoko stole her senses.
No he is not claiming he is God anymore.
Historia Wahl did more damage to Minerva than combat Wahl did to nearly dead laxus.
So I could agree with
Historian Wahl > Wahl > combat Wahl
I guess
Ajeel does fine damage. It's just not direct like wahl. Which is much more common and something erza type mages could easily handle.
Lol
Let's just hope laxus doesn't one shot dragon aconologia. The way he is going, it shouldn't take too long
Near death experience leaves a mental effect
.
No she was not. That happened after koyoko stole her senses.
No he is not claiming he is God anymore.
Historia Wahl did more damage to Minerva than combat Wahl did to nearly dead laxus.
So I could agree with
Historian Wahl > Wahl > combat Wahl
I guess
Ajeel does fine damage. It's just not direct like wahl. Which is much more common and something erza type mages could easily handle.
If Laxus fights Acno it'll be with the 6 other Slayers.
Apparently it doesnt since Azir's near death experience with Erza didnt change him at all.
Yeah I am afraid she was, Kyoka started crushing Erza under her heel, and THEN she took her senses afterwards.
Still had her senses, even had her armor on.
Yes, Historia Wahl did more damage to Minerva than combat Wahl did to MBP Laxus, which means MBP Laxus>>>Minerva, since we got a character statement saying spriggan Historia's<the originals
Sure, he does fine indirect DoT damage, on that i agree, but that suits Erza just fine cause her endurance>>her durability, enduring DoT attacks would be much easier for her than tanking direct ones.
yes, laxus stopped a causal spell of ajeel, which was meant for fodders. ajeel was never serious before sand world.
"dropping a nuke which would give Ajeel a moderate damage at least????"
sure why not
beside it takes what three hits from erza to put ajeel down in the first place
wahl is not shown to be fast unlike ajeel. so no, you cant just make a comparison like that.
max we can say is lb laxus is faster than non red pant and fast armors erza, big deal.
no he is not. red lightening compared with nakagami. not much difference. hell, nakagami might actually be stronger, since red lightening only killed wahl, because he couldnt analyze lightening, which is his weakness.
end mode natsu >>> laxus
and end mode natsu punch can be stopped by erza bare hand.
so no stomping.
