Fantasy Laxus Dreyar vs Erza Scarlet

[Demon Hunter]

Laxus = Jellal > Erza > Natsu

until Avatar and Alvarez where Natsu became OP asf.

they were around the same level and their feats are similar like Jellal blitzing Natsu dozens of times with Meteor and using GC while Laxus used Roar to take down Natsu and Gajeel who got big damage and got paralyzed in the process until Natsu got nakama boost because of Makarov. heck, Raging Bolt would have killed Natsu or KOed him.

Erza simply isn't on their level currently.

I won't speak for chapter 516 because we can't but you can see how inconsistent power levels are.

 

[sharkai]

Not much inconsistency.
If erza could give laxus a high diff fight
This is exactly you would expect

But if you think laxus stomp, then obviously no point of this manga with such a useless main character. Mishma might as well stop writing it

So we have
Erza> ajeel (only reason he got anywhere is because of his magical advantage, kind of like marin)
Erza plus wendy doing something against irene.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Not much inconsistency.
If erza could give laxus a high diff fight
This is exactly you would expect

But if you think laxus stomp, then obviously no point of this manga with such a useless main character. Mishma might as well stop writing it

Laxus stomps Lucy.

I guess there is no reason to write this manga because MC is a fodder to a side character.

So we have
Erza> ajeel (only reason he got anywhere is because of his magical advantage, kind of like marin)

too tired to discuss this thing again.

Erza plus wendy doing something against irene.

see???

inconsistencies everywhere.

she will get some BS win like always(shit, cannot talk about this chapter)and will be stronger than anyone.

but lets agree to disagree. we are going in circles.

 

[sharkai]

Laxus stomps Lucy.

I guess there is no reason to write this manga because MC is a fodder to a side character.


too tired to discuss this thing again.

see???

inconsistencies everywhere.

she will get some BS win like always(shit, cannot talk about this chapter)and will be stronger than anyone.

but lets agree to disagree. we are going in circles.

Lucy does better fan service, which her main role at the moment

Lol
There are some inconsistencies, like how laxus is only slightly stronger than an average springgan but still won when he was near death door and was at serious disadvantage
You just have to see through the bs

Dont worry man
After erza take out irene

people will just say laxus stomp Irene as well

Remember rule of the thumb
If laxus beats a hyped character. Hype laxus to hell
If erza beats a hyped character. Dehype the character, and call it bs

 

[Demon Hunter]

Lucy does better fan service, which her main role at the moment

Lol
There are some inconsistencies, like how laxus is only slightly stronger than an average springgan but still won when he was near death door and was at serious disadvantage
You just have to see through the bs

Dont worry man
After erza take out irene

people will just say laxus stomp Irene as well

Remember rule of the thumb
If laxus beats a hyped character. Hype laxus to hell
If erza beats a hyped character. Dehype the character, and call it bs

obviously because he was portrayed to be stronger lol.

nothing in this arc proves that Erza is above Laxus.

nothing in previous arcs proves that Erza is above Laxus.

so yeah, Laxus beating top tiers is less BS than Erza.

 

[sharkai]

obviously because he was portrayed to be stronger lol.

nothing in this arc proves that Erza is above Laxus.

nothing in previous arcs proves that Erza is above Laxus.

so yeah, Laxus beating top tiers is less BS than Erza.

No he wasnt

Except erza fighting irene
Alot did. But nothing proves laxus above erza in previous arcs either

No

 

[Seven777]

Lucy does better fan service, which her main role at the moment

Lol
There are some inconsistencies, like how laxus is only slightly stronger than an average springgan but still won when he was near death door and was at serious disadvantage
You just have to see through the bs

Obviously Laxus isnt just slightly stronger then, he is a cut above. Its not an inconsistency if it falls in line with everything Laxus has done and how Laxus has been portrayed this arc.

Dont worry man
After erza take out irene

people will just say laxus stomp Irene as well[

You mean after Erza takes out Wendy, people will say that Laxus stomps Wendy as well. Haha yeah, definitely.

Remember rule of the thumb
If laxus beats a hyped character. Hype laxus to hell
If erza beats a hyped character. Dehype the character, and call it bs

Rule of thumb? When has anyone ever dehyped a character Erza beat? Did people dehype Ikaruga? Did people dehype Midnight? Did people dehype Azuma? Did people dehype Kagura? Did people dehype Kyoka? Did people dehype Azir? Seriously dude.... just cause people dont think Erza is as powerful as you do, doesnt mean they all degrade her power. Just as many people hate Natsu. Does everyone rank him as shit? No, not at all. Bottom line is that if Erza performed anywhere near Natsu's level, she'd be ranked just as high as him.

 

[Demon Hunter]

well, does anyone thinks if anything changes after the latest chapter???

I might as well change my opinion soon.

maybe even now. I have to think this through.

 

[Takuan]

Erza didn't do much in the latest chapter. Her speeches were cool, but in terms of fighting feats she didn't gain much.

 

[sharkai]

She is probably faster and more durable than laxus, i guess
But nothing changes in term of power
Its still
Laxus most strongest attack (red lightening) > erza most strongest attack (nakagmi)
Its still a high diff win for laxus. Provided he can put erza down somehow.

 

[Crimson Ice]

well, does anyone thinks if anything changes after the latest chapter???

I might as well change my opinion soon.

maybe even now. I have to think this through.

Nothing changes tbh, all Erza done is get her ass beat this chapter. Laxus is on the higher end of medium dif.

 

[Nemispelled]

I still think Laxus outclasses Erza in all levels.

The only thing that last chapter did for us, was show Erza's maximum durability/injury tolerance.

But anything that she's done, could also be achieved by Laxus, if we're going by previous feats in the manga.

Erza had a spotlight of her own last chapter, but Laxus didn't, so it'd be unfair to compare the two at the moment.

 

[Plutogrim]

Spoiler

Erza take this med diff.
Laxus can use all the nukes he wants, but Erza will still get up and cut him.

 

[sharkai]

Spoiler

Lmao

Changing vote
To erza beat laxus
Low to mid diff

 

[Brandish μ]

Spoiler

Laxus wins this. Erza won't have Makarov's power to help her, or Wendy to enchant. Erza still can't overpower Ajeel on her own. Clear PIS with Irene just skews Erza's performance.

I'll say this though - it will take more power than I anticipated to defeat Erza. So she's gone up in my books, since her gauntlet is the most impressive yet. Laxus dominates the fight, but has to work really hard for this win.

 

[Demon Hunter]

Spoiler

LMAO Erza stomps now.

 

[sharkai]

Spoiler

Laxus wins this. Erza won't have Makarov's power to help her, or Wendy to enchant. Erza still can't overpower Ajeel on her own. Clear PIS with Irene just skews Erza's performance.

I'll say this though - it will take more power than I anticipated to defeat Erza. So she's gone up in my books, since her gauntlet is the most impressive yet. Laxus dominates the fight, but has to work really hard for this win.

Spoiler

What makarov power
Wendy enchant didnt make her strike stronger. It just made it effective by being ds
Erza could easily over power ajeel. If she could see him. Nor did she even go all out against him
However i do agree clear pis with wahl just skew's laxus performance

I do wonder how much damage laxus red lightening will do to erza. It wont put her out. Thats for sure. Nor would it remove erza chances of winning
Erza last strike >>>>>>> red lightening > nakagmi star light

I gave alot of benefit of doubt to red lightening. Though its not clear whether it was stronger than nakagami.

 

[Brandish μ]

Spoiler

What makarov power

Where there was light around her. Erza was flying around with some shroud around her. Unless this is actually PoF... and if it is then Laxus will be able to summon an equivalent amount of PoF at least from Makarov's death since it's his own grandfather.

Erza could easily over power ajeel. If she could see him. Nor did she even go all out against him

Funny that she didn't though. Even in CQC Ajeel was still holding his own.

However i do agree clear pis with wahl just skew's laxus performance

CIS when he had a personality error, definitely. That's it. But Laxus only needs to land a punch to deliver RL, he did that several times previous to the final blow.

I do wonder how much damage laxus red lightening will do to erza. It wont put her out. Thats for sure. Nor would it remove erza chances of winning
Erza last strike >>>>>>> red lightening > nakagmi star light

Depends. Ajeel nearly killed Erza with a choke hold + axe. Red Lightning killed Wall. Erza has been poked and prodded by Historias and berserkers. A dragon hit couldn't kill her. On the balance of that, I'd say RL can't kill Erza, but put her down possibly.

I agree on the order of the spells power there.

I gave alot of benefit of doubt to red lightening. Though its not clear whether it was stronger than nakagami.

It's clearly got the better feat. If it's weaker than Nakagami, there is no reason to think so.

 

[sharkai]

Spoiler

Spoiler

Where there was light around her. Erza was flying around with some shroud around her. Unless this is actually PoF... and if it is then Laxus will be able to summon an equivalent amount of PoF at least from Makarov's death since it's his own grandfather.



Funny that she didn't though. Even in CQC Ajeel was still holding his own.



CIS when he had a personality error, definitely. That's it. But Laxus only needs to land a punch to deliver RL, he did that several times previous to the final blow.



Depends. Ajeel nearly killed Erza with a choke hold + axe. Red Lightning killed Wall. Erza has been poked and prodded by Historias and berserkers. A dragon hit couldn't kill her. On the balance of that, I'd say RL can't kill Erza, but put her down possibly.

I agree on the order of the spells power there.



It's clearly got the better feat. If it's weaker than Nakagami, there is no reason to think so.

Laxus doesnt have equal potential as erza. So he cant summon that much power as erza. Till he shows it that is

We dont know where the power came from. No need to give all the benefit of doubt of the universe to laxus

Cis and pis were over flowing in wahl fight. Never forget

None of those move put erza down. So no red lightening isnt doing anything here.

Its got better feat because wahl couldnt analyse that lightening
Nakagami had no such advantage

--- Double Post Merged, Jan 28, 2017, Original Post Date: Jan 28, 2017 ---

My own quote from start of thread

Laxus high diff.
He has bette r feats. But I don't know what would put erza down. She has never been put down in one on one fight

 

[Brandish μ]

Spoiler

Laxus doesnt have equal potential as erza. So he cant summon that much power as erza. Till he shows it that is

Lol PoF isn't a talent thing but Erza does spam it most. They can both do it, there is no reason that Laxus can't do it IF it's PoF. It could be Makarov's light since there were several panels with a shroud around her, and she made the appearance of a star in the sky herself.

We dont know where the power came from. No need to give all the benefit of doubt of the universe to laxus

The power comes from feelings or Makarov.

Cis and pis were over flowing in wahl fight. Never forget

Almost nothing tops Irene's fight. I explained the CiS with Wall as far as I could tell.

None of those move put erza down. So no red lightening isnt doing anything here.

Ajeel would have killed Erza or do you think she can tank a beheading? At any rate Erza couldn't move there. 3 Historia's put Erza down for the count in Hargeon.

Its got better feat because wahl couldnt analyse that lightening
Nakagami had no such advantage

Being unable to analyse it means exactly that - he didn't know what it was. Wall had immunity to electricity. He didn't have an immunity to RL but that doesn't mean Wall's immunity to electricity is negated - it just means that RL was powerful enough to bust Wall. The advantage theory is just a theory.

Nakagami didn't kill Ajeel, and he was already damaged before it (not severely but a bit).