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So after reading the latest chapter of Bleach, any hope of this arc being redeemed just flew out the window. I'm not saying the fullbringer arc is now over (dear God i hope it was), but it has just past the point where it is now beyond redemption. The reason why the fullbringer arc was so horrible (in my opinion) was not because of bad design or a bad concept no. The reason why was simply because of an abundance of plot induced character stupidity and logical black holes...
Let me list a few that come to mind.
ICHIGO STUFF
-Ichigo never refused to get his powers back, he just accepted losing them. What I mean by this is that Ichigo would have gotten his powers back if there was a way. (srsly not gonna have this arguement again, its fact). That being said, why didn't urahara stab him with the sword 2 years ago?
-If you say something like, "because it took him 2 years to come up with it, or 2 years to get captain's reiatsu" That still doesn't explain why he didn't at least inform ichigo of this. At least that way, Ichigo woudln't have sought out the Fullbringers. And I know Urahara is very secretive but at this point he should really put some trust in Ichigo, the guy did literally save 2 worlds.
-Speaking of trust and calling in Favors, When Ichigo first learned of this enemy that was turning his friends against him, he should have sought the help of the soul society. I know he's no longer a shinigami, but there are ways to contact them, and EVERYONE there owes him a huge favor.
XCUTION STUFF
-Ok.. can anyone tell me what the true goal of the fullbringer group really is? Lets talk about that for a sec
-The goal was obviously never to give Ichigo their powers, they seemed to have no desire to part with their fullbrings.
-In the end we see that the goal was to steal Ichigo's powers (for whatever purpose still unknown).
-So you want me to believe that the primary goal for this Karakura Town based group is to seek after powerful shinigami who have lost their power AND were also born to a human mother who suffered an attack from hollow.... WAIT WHAT?
-The entire purpose of the group's existence is basically to steal the power of... Ichigo. How convinient -.-. I can't think of one other shinigami who fits that description. And we have a pretty good idea of the size of soul society and the number of capable fighters there. And Ichigo is srsly the only one who fits this description.
-Actually my above point stands corrected by the manga. There was a scene of Suspenderboy killing a shinigami after taking his powers. Could there be a higher purpose to this? Maybe, but at this point its hard to care.
SUSPENDERBOY STUFF
-The reasoning for not turning Ishida agaisn't Ichigo was SO BAD! So it can be a challenge? I mean really? Worst writing ever. KT should have made some bs reason like "it doesn't work on quincys" and that would have been 100x better
-So Suspenderboy's (dont knwo his real name) power is to change how ppl feel towards him (villian, friend, unkown, w/e) andthen to revert it on the second cut. So when he cut Ginjo, he had to go and cut his whole group, otherwise they would have still been loyal to susspenderboy. This is the only logical explanation because Ginjo obviously had the group prior to attacking ishida.
-So he cut all of them because they are "bad actors" ?? Such bad reasoning for 2 main reasons.
- Reason 1, They never had to be Ichigo's friends. Ichigo sought them, they were a means to restore his power, not a social club. Remember the Vizards? Were they all friendly to Ichigo at the start? No, they weren't. Groups like this are a means to an end, and Ichigo knows this. No one was looking for bffs here...
-Reason 2, What the hell? Even after that "life changing cut", they were still jerks to Ichigo! Let me make something clear for everyone reading. Ginjo CUT ICHIGOS EYES for crying out loud while pretending to be Ichigo's enemy to piss him off while actually under suspenderboy's influence to be Ichigo's friend while actually truly ichigo's enemy!!!! What is this about Ginjo's bad acting? HE'S A GREAT ACTOR! One of the worst plot devices i have ever seen and easily contradicted by the manga.
-So lets look at suspenderboy and his little minion. Was there any reason whatsoever to send this guy to kill orihime? Nope. Considering what their goals were, that scene was completely pointless. If there was a point to it, it was to show how "scary" suspenderboy is. Honestly when i look at this guy, I really really reallly miss Aizen
SHADEY STUFF
-Once again, it seems that in Bleach, everyone's favorite activity is leaving Ichigo out of the loop. Seriously. Remember when Ginjo first talked to Ichigo? He told him to investigate his father and Urahara etc. Now Ginjo was just talking crap, but he made a good point. Isshin and Urahara were acting extra shadey for no damn reason. They should have been like "ICHIGO we might have found a way to restore your power!" instead of like, "lets not tell ichigo, yeah! that sounds cool!"
CONCLUSION
What this boils down to is that KT wanted to have some big twist, and in order ot do so he had to make everyone an idiot. That is simply it. He wanted to have a major twist, but in order for it work, the whole manga had to be turned on its head. I have had my gripes with Bleach before, but this is puts any other problem i had wiith Bleach to shame.
I took issue (as many of you did) with some aspects of the Godzen arrancar arc, but at least it was coherent and the plot holes were neglible. Remember guys, this is bleach's first attempt at a restart. Even after the soul society arc it wasn't really a restart because Aizen was still out there.
For those of you saying, "Just wait and see, the fullbringer arc may turn out to have some major revelations and-" No, i want to stop you there. The only way this arc can be salvaged is for it to stop doing damage and just go away. Treat this arc as "How Ichigo got his powers back" and move on. I dont care if there is some evil big boss ginjo and suspenders work for who asked them to steal power. I really dont care. This arc is so bad that I want Ichigo to just kill all the fullbringers, tell chad he is not a fullbringer, and pretend like this never happened.
If you think I'm a bleach hater or anything, just read my posts, I defend this manga more than most. I just cant stand to see it slip into mediocrity.
Oh and if you want to refute any of the points I made concerning the ridiculousness of this arc, please feel free to do so. Most of those are really questions and I don't know the answer, so I would be glad to hear your opinion. If someone can offer a legitimate reason, manga supported reason why the fullbringers did what they did, I would really like to hear it bcuz... i'm just confused now, lol.
Let me list a few that come to mind.
ICHIGO STUFF
-Ichigo never refused to get his powers back, he just accepted losing them. What I mean by this is that Ichigo would have gotten his powers back if there was a way. (srsly not gonna have this arguement again, its fact). That being said, why didn't urahara stab him with the sword 2 years ago?
-If you say something like, "because it took him 2 years to come up with it, or 2 years to get captain's reiatsu" That still doesn't explain why he didn't at least inform ichigo of this. At least that way, Ichigo woudln't have sought out the Fullbringers. And I know Urahara is very secretive but at this point he should really put some trust in Ichigo, the guy did literally save 2 worlds.
-Speaking of trust and calling in Favors, When Ichigo first learned of this enemy that was turning his friends against him, he should have sought the help of the soul society. I know he's no longer a shinigami, but there are ways to contact them, and EVERYONE there owes him a huge favor.
XCUTION STUFF
-Ok.. can anyone tell me what the true goal of the fullbringer group really is? Lets talk about that for a sec
-The goal was obviously never to give Ichigo their powers, they seemed to have no desire to part with their fullbrings.
-In the end we see that the goal was to steal Ichigo's powers (for whatever purpose still unknown).
-So you want me to believe that the primary goal for this Karakura Town based group is to seek after powerful shinigami who have lost their power AND were also born to a human mother who suffered an attack from hollow.... WAIT WHAT?
-The entire purpose of the group's existence is basically to steal the power of... Ichigo. How convinient -.-. I can't think of one other shinigami who fits that description. And we have a pretty good idea of the size of soul society and the number of capable fighters there. And Ichigo is srsly the only one who fits this description.
-Actually my above point stands corrected by the manga. There was a scene of Suspenderboy killing a shinigami after taking his powers. Could there be a higher purpose to this? Maybe, but at this point its hard to care.
SUSPENDERBOY STUFF
-The reasoning for not turning Ishida agaisn't Ichigo was SO BAD! So it can be a challenge? I mean really? Worst writing ever. KT should have made some bs reason like "it doesn't work on quincys" and that would have been 100x better
-So Suspenderboy's (dont knwo his real name) power is to change how ppl feel towards him (villian, friend, unkown, w/e) andthen to revert it on the second cut. So when he cut Ginjo, he had to go and cut his whole group, otherwise they would have still been loyal to susspenderboy. This is the only logical explanation because Ginjo obviously had the group prior to attacking ishida.
-So he cut all of them because they are "bad actors" ?? Such bad reasoning for 2 main reasons.
- Reason 1, They never had to be Ichigo's friends. Ichigo sought them, they were a means to restore his power, not a social club. Remember the Vizards? Were they all friendly to Ichigo at the start? No, they weren't. Groups like this are a means to an end, and Ichigo knows this. No one was looking for bffs here...
-Reason 2, What the hell? Even after that "life changing cut", they were still jerks to Ichigo! Let me make something clear for everyone reading. Ginjo CUT ICHIGOS EYES for crying out loud while pretending to be Ichigo's enemy to piss him off while actually under suspenderboy's influence to be Ichigo's friend while actually truly ichigo's enemy!!!! What is this about Ginjo's bad acting? HE'S A GREAT ACTOR! One of the worst plot devices i have ever seen and easily contradicted by the manga.
-So lets look at suspenderboy and his little minion. Was there any reason whatsoever to send this guy to kill orihime? Nope. Considering what their goals were, that scene was completely pointless. If there was a point to it, it was to show how "scary" suspenderboy is. Honestly when i look at this guy, I really really reallly miss Aizen
SHADEY STUFF
-Once again, it seems that in Bleach, everyone's favorite activity is leaving Ichigo out of the loop. Seriously. Remember when Ginjo first talked to Ichigo? He told him to investigate his father and Urahara etc. Now Ginjo was just talking crap, but he made a good point. Isshin and Urahara were acting extra shadey for no damn reason. They should have been like "ICHIGO we might have found a way to restore your power!" instead of like, "lets not tell ichigo, yeah! that sounds cool!"
CONCLUSION
What this boils down to is that KT wanted to have some big twist, and in order ot do so he had to make everyone an idiot. That is simply it. He wanted to have a major twist, but in order for it work, the whole manga had to be turned on its head. I have had my gripes with Bleach before, but this is puts any other problem i had wiith Bleach to shame.
I took issue (as many of you did) with some aspects of the Godzen arrancar arc, but at least it was coherent and the plot holes were neglible. Remember guys, this is bleach's first attempt at a restart. Even after the soul society arc it wasn't really a restart because Aizen was still out there.
For those of you saying, "Just wait and see, the fullbringer arc may turn out to have some major revelations and-" No, i want to stop you there. The only way this arc can be salvaged is for it to stop doing damage and just go away. Treat this arc as "How Ichigo got his powers back" and move on. I dont care if there is some evil big boss ginjo and suspenders work for who asked them to steal power. I really dont care. This arc is so bad that I want Ichigo to just kill all the fullbringers, tell chad he is not a fullbringer, and pretend like this never happened.
If you think I'm a bleach hater or anything, just read my posts, I defend this manga more than most. I just cant stand to see it slip into mediocrity.
Oh and if you want to refute any of the points I made concerning the ridiculousness of this arc, please feel free to do so. Most of those are really questions and I don't know the answer, so I would be glad to hear your opinion. If someone can offer a legitimate reason, manga supported reason why the fullbringers did what they did, I would really like to hear it bcuz... i'm just confused now, lol.
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