Luffy,2nd devil fruit, and ace

[kkck]

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BB has been shown to hold the power of the gura gura fruit in both hands, I don't think there are limitations as to what power he can use with each hand.

 

[One Pie]

I think the best 2nd devil fruit for luffy would be the air air fruit because it's a big power up for gear 3rd.

 

[bopnoh10]

What does everyone think about this:

First of all, Haki MAKES the punches/kicks harder, so his next power-up will just be to master haki. Regardless, here's an idea for another power-up:

4th gear - what happens when you rub rubber with carpet or something similar... you generate static... electricity... so Luffy has gear 2, that also shoots an electric shock

 

[kangclaw]

I dont see that happening

Luffy already has the greatest form of Haki why would he need another DF? Luffy perfectly fine with the fruit he currently has and i still can see him further developing his DF powers even more so (like his Gears )

I would also like Luffy to develop his rubber Df but not with gears, they are like doping i.e. the gears are bad for his health they shorten his life span, because they put a lot of pressure on his heart. This is according to Luci of CP9. Luffy needs to have real permanent level ups, not techniques that give him a temporary boost like his gear 2 and 3, which are also bad for health. Temporary boosts are not real strength and they are not enough against truly strong people especially like BB, the admirals and Yonku as we have seen so far in the manga. Luffy just barely won against Luci of the CP9 and he needed help against Moria of the Shichibukai.

He needs to develop his overall stats, like strength, speed, endurance etc..
Rubber gives him a great advantage in physical combat, but that is only for people who are his strength or lower not against an opponent who is stronger or an opponent that has haki or other similar abilities. Rubber Df is not one of the stronger DF and also looks plain in comparison to some of the Logia powers; because of that luffy is forced to use his Rubber abilities in creative ways, but he is coming to a limit as to what techniques he can use his DF. Luffy looks pathetic against some of the Admirals, or some of the other strong pirates out their. Luffy also has been using similar techniques, and these techniques get boring after 500+ chapters. For example some of his techniques are upgrades of his punches.

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What does everyone think about this:

First of all, Haki MAKES the punches/kicks harder, so his next power-up will just be to master haki. Regardless, here's an idea for another power-up:

4th gear - what happens when you rub rubber with carpet or something similar... you generate static... electricity... so Luffy has gear 2, that also shoots an electric shock

I like your idea a lot, I didn't think of that, if he does than his rubber abilities wouldn't be boring any more and then he can have techniques that rival some of the strongest powers out there.
It would be good if had a super powerful technique called the GEARS OF WAR, LOL. similar name to the xbox 360 game. No seriously, may he can develop a technique that allows him to shoot out powerful static electric shock waves? similar to using like an energy wave as big as an island?

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BB has been shown to hold the power of the gura gura fruit in both hands, I don't think there are limitations as to what power he can use with each hand.

I have to agree with, I don't think Oda gave BB any weaknesses, that WB did not have with the Gura Gura fruit. I think BB has the full use of another DF with out any extra disadvantages.

 

[cippy]

IMO the best 2nd fruit for luffy is bara bara. No more weakness to sharp weapons. He would be like majin boo from DBZ every time you cut him he splits in half he rejoins and punches can't hurt him and with gear 2 = pwnage .

 

[kkck]

Luffy is no more less resistant to sharp weapons than anyone else though.

 

[Marche]

Okay, now that Ace is dead and Blackbeard gained Whitebeard's power. There is a chance, i think, for this 2 events to correlate to each other. Luffy needs a power-up, and he hasnt meet vegapunk yet. I think Luffy is another person in One Piece's world that can absorb 2 devil fruits power. What power suited better for Luffy than his brother's? So Luffy might get Ace's fire power, and his punch become firey and stuff. imagine gomu2 no bazooka fire, or gomu2 no jet pistole fire, or gear third with fire, it will cause mass destruction if combined together. what do u guys think?

At the beginning I also thinks this, but now I no more think so.
I think than Rufy can eat 2 DF, because also is his body explode, his body (with also his organs) will dilate (as when Rufy does a Balloon or after than He eat).
Anyways he will never take the DF by Ace's bodies (also because now seems than He has no more chance than that).
But if He will found that DF in the sea (but before I must knew than that is a DF and the Ace's fruit (perhaps Sanji or somebody who looked to a DF's Encyclopedia...) also because "someway" Ace will be there when Rufy became the PK (and so Ace will be always in "someway" will be PK himself).

 

[St Michael]

Worst idea ever.

Why Luffy would need a second DF ? He has the strongest haki.

BB needed the Gura Gura to improve himself cause he's a lazy idiot. He could've train his yami yami but he prefered the easy way.

Luffy isn't like that. He'll train his haki , improve his DF mastery and kick Teach's ass.

 

[omgeggman]

hope this isn't troll-like

but rubber doesn't conduct electricity. it actually negates it. Like how Enel was unable to hurt Luffy with his lightning attacks

 

[neild]

if the devil fruit ability complements luffy's rubber power, why not i say

 

[kangclaw]

I like the idea of Luffy gaining multiple Df abiilities, I like the main character gaining seriously powerful; but I don't know if it will happen.
It is true that Luffy has the King Haki, and it is too much like the ultimate power, I don't think Luffy will master it any time soon precisely because it is the ultimate power.

So far his only fighting style is physical combat only, he uses his DF to enhance his combat. All or nearly all of his attacks are contact based, he doesn't do anything like a Rankyaku like the CP9 did. Not one of the CP9 techniques require require DF abilities, only physical abilities. One of the many things he has to do is level up a lot physically even more than he is now, it seems he has reached the limits of how he can use his rubber abilities. He developed Gear 2 and 3 before he met the CP9. According to the manga these techniques are harmful to him and according to Rob Luci they are like doping.

If he masters his haki, he may overcome all of his weakness. He will not need even his Df abilities.

He doesn't have really powerful DF abilities compared to other DF abilities like Kuma's, Kizaru's, Aokiji's, Akainu's, etc.. His rubber abilities doesn't give him any advantage of defence or offence against these yet.
Oh by the way I like Kizaru's and Kuma's DF. With Kuma's you don't need any ship to travel you can teleport any where.
Note: This alll just speculation only.

 

[HighwaySlug]

Well nice ideas for a second DF guys ! But I was thinking about something new...something hilarious and surprising for you I guess...: / Well all of you are talking about physical abilities and etc,so my idea for a second DF ability (or some permanent boost) is a mind boost or something like that. I mean some ability that boosts his mental potential (cuz' he is quite dumb and clumsy) and makes him A LOT CLEVER,cunning and precise in his attacks, ALSO to predict his opponents moves (like the priests from the flying island) . Btw I don't read the manga but I guess that the final battle is not going to be Luffy vs BB .

 

[kkck]

This thread was made before the timeskip when luffy at his best was cannon fodder for people to matter to mow through. Anyways, he is no longer in such desperate need for a powerup, he is reasonably strong now and should be able to move in the new world without having mid level members of strong crews step on him and the rest of the strawhats.

Anyways, the SBS mentioned something interesting which would be worth saying in this thread.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_65#Chapter_638.2C_Page_46
Check out the last question of 638

Oda specifically mentioned he wanted luffy to have a silly and dumb ability. He did not want him to have one of those overpowering fruits. I don't think it would make sense for luffy to get a "strong" ability as a future powerup, it would ruin what he wanted to do with the main character with the silly ability. Having luffy with two silly abilities would perhaps not be the best case scenario either.

 

[gunzhuzla]

luffy will eat the devil fruit ..the devil fruit that he will be eaten was shown at episode 602 ..the apple turns into a devil fruit because of the reaction that was made by the poison..the gas..the gas ==fire== so its probably thats the fruit!! ☻☻☻ but its a theoty only

 

[black death]

Worst idea ever.

Why Luffy would need a second DF ? He has the strongest haki.

BB needed the Gura Gura to improve himself cause he's a lazy idiot. He could've train his yami yami but he prefered the easy way.

Luffy isn't like that. He'll train his haki , improve his DF mastery and kick Teach's ass.

That haki only works on the weak willed and minds and i dont think bb is part on those so 2nd df it is

 

[Arbalest]

i don't think luffy needs another DF cause simply he already has 2, to put it in a simple way luffy is Gol D.roger and roger before he died took a reincarnation fruit that would work just like brook's fruit only in a better way then went to the execution, i think roger at his last days after disbanding his crew went for a DF hunt with possibly dragon to search for this fruit that would activate when he die and grant him a reincarnation one he had it he included shanks and silvers reighley in his plan, he left his hat to shanks since he was younger and had better chance to find him alive when he comes back this explains why shanks would sacrafice his arm for a kid he just met it's because he recognized his captain in luffy's actions that's why he gave him the hat, it also explains why reighley wanted to meet luffy he wanted to check for himself if it was really roger and it would explains why he went to fight an admiral in Shabondi Shotō for a guy he barely met then train him etc..
i think luffy has 2 DF the gomu and the reincarnation that would activate only after his death

 

[BetaRuler]

^ are you thinking of something like the effect in Pandora hearts? 2 personalities in 1 person? One secretly sleeping who could potentially wrestle with the Luffy we know and love now.

 

[Arbalest]

i was thinking more of luffy being a younger version of roger chances are when you he'll grow up he'll look exactly like roger, it's not about 2 personalities it's about being one and the same the DF granted him the chance to live again
p.s: never heared about pandrora notion still it's a good idea i guess