Discussion Luffy's Chest Scar

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i agree with most people here, it was fairly obvious before oda said anything. And i think luffy already proved how much stronger his gotten over a two year time span. and naruto had 3 years, personally i think that was just bad writing on kishimotos part
 

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i agree with most people here, it was fairly obvious before oda said anything. And i think luffy already proved how much stronger his gotten over a two year time span. and naruto had 3 years, personally i think that was just bad writing on kishimotos part
But he spent 2 years making filler episodes for the anime, before he started training XD
 

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But he spent 2 years making filler episodes for the anime, before he started training XD
What do fillers (non-canon) have to do with the manga (canon)? :-_- Let me help you out. Not a damn thing.
 

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how is luffy still alive anyway

that shot went through his solar plexis, looking at how the lava seems to extend beyond luffy's body in the hit shot

lots of essential nerves are bunched there, including those that keep the heart pumping

his bronchi should have been burnt as well, not to mention his heart

if the shot went through his entire chest, his spine should have been broken as well

trafalgar law could possibly be one of the most gifted doctors in the world. i'm thinking very detailed grafting of nerves and bone/muscle tissue with his powers
 

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how is luffy still alive anyway

that shot went through his solar plexis, looking at how the lava seems to extend beyond luffy's body in the hit shot

lots of essential nerves are bunched there, including those that keep the heart pumping

his bronchi should have been burnt as well, not to mention his heart

if the shot went through his entire chest, his spine should have been broken as well

trafalgar law could possibly be one of the most gifted doctors in the world. i'm thinking very detailed grafting of nerves and bone/muscle tissue with his powers
Well, theres a lot of things like that in the manga, like nobody seems to remember when crocodile skewered luffy with his hook, then left him under thousands of pounds of sand, while a mummy, seems like that would be lethal, and even so, that hit seemed to have severed jimbei's spine, as well as burning his lungs and who knows what else, yet he doesn't even have a single mark on him.

That aside, in OP there seems to be something to be said for willpower, not even including haki, irl it is possible to survive wounds and diseases by willpower alone, just by willing yourself conscious, it is possible to avoid drowning for a longer time, I've even heard stories of people surviving shots to the head and other serious wounds, as well as stories of parents surviving fatal illnesses just long enough to see their children graduate and then dying shortly thereafter.

In OP, serious, and even fatal wounds can be overcome with sheer willpower to a much greater degree, we saw that well in whitebeard during the war, since he had just a human body, but yet he kept fighting regardless of damage until the point when his hope ran out, and only died when he had no reason left to keep fighting in much the same manner, though clearly some things, like, say decapitation would be bound to work anyways, this is a real life, documented phenomena, whereby if one organ fails, another organ, or nerves or anything else can compensate, to prolong life for a very long time, OP just takes it much farther, allowing Rob Lucci to survive his wounds, albeit barely, and in fact many people who suffered lethal damage to go on to live a long, full life just because they had the will to live.
 

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Well, theres a lot of things like that in the manga, like nobody seems to remember when crocodile skewered luffy with his hook, then left him under thousands of pounds of sand, while a mummy, seems like that would be lethal, and even so, that hit seemed to have severed jimbei's spine, as well as burning his lungs and who knows what else, yet he doesn't even have a single mark on him.

That aside, in OP there seems to be something to be said for willpower, not even including haki, irl it is possible to survive wounds and diseases by willpower alone, just by willing yourself conscious, it is possible to avoid drowning for a longer time, I've even heard stories of people surviving shots to the head and other serious wounds, as well as stories of parents surviving fatal illnesses just long enough to see their children graduate and then dying shortly thereafter.

In OP, serious, and even fatal wounds can be overcome with sheer willpower to a much greater degree, we saw that well in whitebeard during the war, since he had just a human body, but yet he kept fighting regardless of damage until the point when his hope ran out, and only died when he had no reason left to keep fighting in much the same manner, though clearly some things, like, say decapitation would be bound to work anyways, this is a real life, documented phenomena, whereby if one organ fails, another organ, or nerves or anything else can compensate, to prolong life for a very long time, OP just takes it much farther, allowing Rob Lucci to survive his wounds, albeit barely, and in fact many people who suffered lethal damage to go on to live a long, full life just because they had the will to live.
organ compensation? source?
 

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....Remember the sight of Shanks made Whitebeard's scar from Roger ache? Scars in one piece are in important IMHO to signify rivalry especially between two strong Opponents, In the same way Is anyone else reminded of shank's scar when you see luffy's scar? Two great pirates who are great friends both have scars from two formidable opponents.Maybe its a foreshadowing that in the final battle Luffy's last foe will be Akainu while Shank's will deal with BB.Then again who knows...This is Oda after all, the scars could just be a beauty mark lol.
 

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....Remember the sight of Shanks made Whitebeard's scar from Roger ache? Scars in one piece are in important IMHO to signify rivalry especially between two strong Opponents, In the same way Is anyone else reminded of shank's scar when you see luffy's scar? Two great pirates who are great friends both have scars from two formidable opponents.Maybe its a foreshadowing that in the final battle Luffy's last foe will be Akainu while Shank's will deal with BB.Then again who knows...This is Oda after all, the scars could just be a beauty mark lol.
Formidable opponents!? :blink
Just reminding you that Shanks' scars weren't Whitebeard's fault.

It's Blackbeard that gave those scars to Shanks.

And, IMO, Blackbeard is far from being a formidable opponent.
So far, all he has done is talk big and run away in front of more powerful people...
 

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Blackbeard is a formidable enemy if you use the right translation[:D] and he has already shown his ability to adapt after acquiring WBs powers. Not playing fair is part of battle too, like 99% of fights in OP.
 

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Formidable opponents!? :blink
Just reminding you that Shanks' scars weren't Whitebeard's fault.

It's Blackbeard that gave those scars to Shanks.

And, IMO, Blackbeard is far from being a formidable opponent.
So far, all he has done is talk big and run away in front of more powerful people...
at no point in my post did I imply whitebeard caused shank's scar.If you recall when shank's came to visit him whitebeard's told him that the sight of him made the scar he got fro roger ache (as shanks was in rogers crew)......also blackbeard not a formidable opponent? R u reading the same manga I am?.....He's got two of the most powerful devils fruits,a crew of history's worst pirates and FACT:he did defeat ace,he fought a fleet admiral with no major damage and was directly responsible for whitebeard's ultimate demise...if this is not formidable to you I'd like to see what is.Maybe Oda should give him kyoka suigetsu and be done with it....just saying(lol)
 

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Not to mention BB gave shanks that scar even before he had a fruit.... the guy has not even begun to show his true power.
 

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His true power was shown while was he was begging for his life, as WB held him in his mercy xD


Scars are memento of a meaningful event, such as a important fight.
 

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... do you have to be so picky? Wb as the strongest man alive had naturally the upper hand. Again, being tricky is the most normal thing in a fight for death, you would have fairly would you?
 

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Anyway... am I the only one to think that the scar is on his back too.
héhéh 100% confident about it.
Well I am so confident that I won't even dicuss further :xp
I am just waiting for the next victory picture from his back with a X scar :turtle.
Just like this one (one of my favourite) but much better :p :headbang
 

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at no point in my post did I imply whitebeard caused shank's scar.If you recall when shank's came to visit him whitebeard's told him that the sight of him made the scar he got fro roger ache (as shanks was in rogers crew)......also blackbeard not a formidable opponent? R u reading the same manga I am?.....He's got two of the most powerful devils fruits,a crew of history's worst pirates and FACT:he did defeat ace,he fought a fleet admiral with no major damage and was directly responsible for whitebeard's ultimate demise...if this is not formidable to you I'd like to see what is.Maybe Oda should give him kyoka suigetsu and be done with it....just saying(lol)
Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.
 

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Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.
As long as we are quoting dictionaries: Formidable also means: Extremely impressive in strength or excellence. Nobody fears BB? did you not see the reaction of the marines when he gained the gura gura no mi? or the people of shabondy shoto when it was broadcasted to them? hmmm...seems like all round fear to me.

The only impressive thing he did was defeat ace? Ok how about this.............break into and out of impel down with a crew of level six prisoners................fight evenly with sengoku(even for a short while) sb who is above the admirals?......................defeat one of the supernovas without breaking so much as a sweat............fight shanks and give him a scar pre-devil's fruit. I don't know. These events impress the hell out of me as well.

BB comic relief............NO! I've never felt like laughing at any of BBs appearances...I was in awe of him in jaya,I hated him in banaro island,hated him even more in impel down and was positively disgusted with him in marineford...at no time however were his actions funny
 

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It's getting highly off-topic.^^

Just as Kyodai mentioned, it seems like you have read past the manga. Blackbeard was one of the better fighters in WBs crew, has taken down Ace, a Shichibukai candidate, just to become one himself. Besides the admirals and Yonkou, they are already the most feared pirates/people around. Last time seens he's taken down the most feared/loved character of OP and took his powers, now able to tear down fortresses, create natural disasters on his own. If that's not a reason to fear, your definition of the word must be pretty shaky.
 

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Scars themselves I wouldn't necessary say means they're your rival however in this manga when you clearly have one from a powerful character then it comes as such. A rivalry.

Blackbeard in this case I feel he had a hidden power (another fruit) no one knew about but if you think about it. He's like Luffy except took extreme measures to make a name for himself. His plan to go into impel down wouldn't have worked without our favorite main character.

Truth be told Blackbeard isn't scary tactics or not he still has a long way to go as well. He has strong fruit powers but needs a lot of training. Or experience. He always runs when it comes to strong opponents seeing that he's a huge threat now. Lol I bet after the timeskip he got skinnier lol. Who knows. Or fatter. You guys need to stop getting off topic just wanted to throw in my input.
 

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O-T:
We've got a longer BB discussion going on some months ago. One important argument got caught, that he's a realist that won't face a danger he can avoid till he got the means to have the upper hand. He's not a airhead like Luffy, he's doing precisely as planed, his strategy has helped him to get the strongest possible combination of power. At least for him, it's nothing to be angry about.
 
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Formidable = Arousing fear.

Who in this manga is afraid of BB?
The only thing I've seen BB do in this manga so far is run away in front of more powerful opponent.

The only impresive thing he did was to defeat Ace.

So far, BB seems more like a comic relief than anything else to me.
Eventually, he might raise up to be a powerful opponent worthy of being the "last boss", but right now, that's certainly not the case.
Well, the gorosei seemed quite fearful of the guy to say the least. They thought only a yonko could possibly stop him for the most part which is quite something. Shanks has expressed severe concerns over the guy too, enough to face WB himself and ask him to stop ace. More so, BB did kinda fight on shanks level even without a fruit not so long along. Jinbei expressed concern over the power of the guy when he mentioned he had somehow acquired enough power to beat ace and was an unknown quantity.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/one_piece/v56/c544/8.html

The main issue here is that we have hardly seen everything WB has to offer. I honestly doubt we have seen even with WB's fruit the full extent of his capacity.
 
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