\m/ THE METAL THREAD!!! \m/

[Paper]

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While the music scene right now is absolutely horrible. I believe that the current outlive and outlast method is working quite well. We have seen quite a number of fads pass by and fade away, while true metal fans and supporters live on. I believe that metal is only for the strong willed and the weak should just be content with whatever the media feeds them... they're not worthy.

 

[DanielKnoT]

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I'm sorry, but did you just compare Cliff Burton era Metallica to Slipknot? I realize that musical taste is to each his own, but you just can't compare one of the forefathers of American Heavy Metal to that thing... It's just unthinkable, even if you're not a purist.

Cliff Burton was a god. Though he didn't revolutionize anything, he did inspire more bassists to be more aggressive and take a stand to not just be part of the background. The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him. Can you really say that about Paul Gray?

*commence the flaming of NWOAHM fans*

Jejejeje I just see this comment today..

Man are you crazy?? Dont you see my Avatar???... Please, I love and Respect METALLICA like nobody else..

I was just using the example thats all...

But it is strange that you say this The moment he died, he took Metallica along with him

Metallica did the most amazing records in Rock History (Master of Puppets and And Justice for All) and became in one of the biggest band without Cliff..

 

[Paper]

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Cliff Burton was with them for the first three records: Kill 'em All, Ride the Lightning, and Master of Puppets.

From a musical standpoint, the band stopped maturing after Cliff's departure, and even started to regress in the albums that came after Justice for All. They just continued with the SSDD, till they eventually took an epic dump on the fans and released shit albums like Load and Reload (along with everything else that came after those two). Metallica is the perfect example for a great band that sold. Cliff is basically the embodiment of their principles and beliefs, and when he died the band no longer had the courage to go against the status quo. Metallica isn't the only band that's like this, there are several other bands that I grew to love and hate all because they gave in to the whims of the status quo: Guns n' Roses, Van Halen, In Flames to name a few... all bands that I've loved, but soon turned into shit when they sold out... I'd even add Iron Maiden to that list, and I'm a die hard Maiden fan!

Though selling out may be the bane that corrupts the Metal world, it is an unavoidable path that a band goes through once they've reached a certain level of fame and fortune. The only way they can regain their former glory is to produce new songs that are on par/ better than the tracks on their previous non-sellout album

 

[DanielKnoT]

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I allways hear comments like this about Metallica, or Gun´s, Iron Maiden, etc, etc and I still dont unterstand why people say this.. "they sold out"

I personally like a band that constantly evolves, tries different stuff... If a band stays in a sound or style for their entire life they will never grow or reach certain status.

Examples.. The record Master of Puppets was incredible, extremly fast, and powerfull. Pure Trash Metal, but then comes And Justice for All was amazing with a better sound, more refined, combinations of fast and slow tempos and still this was a great album.

What can I say about the Black Album? Here, all the people start saying that they sold out. Like it or Not, was an amazing album, they didnt made those long songs of 7 or 8 minutes to start getting space in TV and Radio (This was a Bad move?), different sound, different style, and still was an amazing album. (22 million records sold)

Is boring when a band make the same records with the same style over and over and over again, you get tired...

This is why bands like Megadeth, Anthrax or Slayer for example, stayed behind compared to Metallica, and this is why Metallica is considered one of the best and the most influential band in ROCK!!!! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame

And Cliff.. He was great, but Jason and Robert are not behind.. I never been in a live concert of Metallica with Cliff in the Bass (I have 25 years), but all the concerts that I´ve been with Jason or Robert in bass.. OMG

 

[Paper]

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Read what I typed closely. I want bands to change, but I want them to change for the better. Metallica has done nothing but regress since the death of Cliff; they lost their roots.

Anthrax is stagnant, Slayer is stagnant, but Megadeth has evolved many times over (for both bad and good). It takes a keen ear to notice that they went from pure thrash to thrash with neo-classical and jazz influences. I'd rather see a band stagnate and remain in with the hard core fans than see them lose their die hard supporters. Evolution is a great thing if a band manages to keep their roots as they progress.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I'm completely adamant with my stance on music. Jason and Robert are clowns compared to Cliff. The bass lines after Cliff's unfortunate departure have been dull and over simplified. How simple you ask? I was able to learn "enter sandman" over the phone while my friend played it on his stereo (I didn't own a copy of the album, and we had to perform it within the week).

The rock and roll hall of fame is nothing but a farce now. It's based on fame and money, not skill. As for music videos... They're nice to have for exposure, but they should never be in the top ten list of accomplishments for a metal band... Like I've said before, metal is no for the weak. I don't expect the sheep to understand metal, and to dumb metal down for the sheep to consume is a complete travesty and would only result in mediocre pop bands that use distortion to label themselves as a metal band...The very thought of it makes me cringe.

 

[DanielKnoT]

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Read what I typed closely. I want bands to change, but I want them to change for the better. Metallica has done nothing but regress since the death of Cliff; they lost their roots.

Anthrax is stagnant, Slayer is stagnant, but Megadeth has evolved many times over (for both bad and good). It takes a keen ear to notice that they went from pure thrash to thrash with neo-classical and jazz influences. I'd rather see a band stagnate and remain in with the hard core fans than see them lose their die hard supporters. Evolution is a great thing if a band manages to keep their roots as they progress.

Everyone is entitled to his or her own opinion, but I'm completely adamant with my stance on music. Jason and Robert are clowns compared to Cliff. The bass lines after Cliff's unfortunate departure have been dull and over simplified. How simple you ask? I was able to learn "enter sandman" over the phone while my friend played it on his stereo (I didn't own a copy of the album, and we had to perform it within the week).

The rock and roll hall of fame is nothing but a farce now. It's based on fame and money, not skill. As for music videos... They're nice to have for exposure, but they should never be in the top ten list of accomplishments for a metal band... Like I've said before, metal is no for the weak. I don't expect the sheep to understand metal, and to dumb metal down for the sheep to consume is a complete travesty and would only result in mediocre pop bands that use distortion to label themselves as a metal band...The very thought of it makes me cringe.

I completely understands you..

But lets say, that if you are in a band and you wanna be succesfull, sometimes you have to sold your soul to the devil, and by devil i mean TV, Radio, MTV, Grammys, Music Industry Corporations, etc. Do I like it? NO, but it is like that..

Is very difficult, be that succesfull staying in your own style and roots. There are hundreds of examples of bands that made an amazing and great first record and then they become crap, and in these days is even more frequent.

If you see it as a fan point of view, of course you will say that they sold out.. But try to see it as a member of the band.. Or any band...

 

[BBB Banana]

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And I might add that sometimes you have to sell you soul to guitar hero or Rock band

I hate that game and lots of people who think that know metallica (and other bands) only they play a dozen of songs on guitar hero the possibillity of a megadeth guitar hero creeps me out. But even if this kids say they are fans they only care about the band until the master the game.

 

[Paper]

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I have seen it from a band PoV. I've jumped from one band to another over the years, trying to make it big... I've decided to stick with my current band, and I don't care if we make it big. It's the musical integrity that matters. I'd rather take a cheese grater to my groin than sell out.

I find that guitar hero/rock band is just plain silly. I've tried playing them, and by god... Playing the actual song on an actual guitar/bass is miles easier than those silly guitar shaped controllers. I don't think they should call it "guitar hero" or "rock band". More like "Guitar for the musically handicapped" or "Tard Band"...

 

[BBB Banana]

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I totally agree with you Guitar Hero can be fun but only for someone who doesnt play an actual instrument because the song timing and stuff has nothing to do with the game timing and that can be confusing. My friends make fun of me for being a total noo b at guitar hero but then I pwn all of them on real guitar.

Usually I go to a store where we can play GH whenever I go to Mc donalds with my friends. I kind of like when people at the store make fun of me is that normal? But then again most of them never played anything besides a plastic flute.

 

[Hystzen]

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only just found this im picky with bands but if i go say metal bands would be

1. Dir En Grey
2. Bullet for Valentine
3. Slipknot (rip paul gray)
4. Of Mice and Men
5. Alexisonfire
6. August Burns Red
7. Atreyu
8. A Day To Remember (listen to heartless they are)
9. 36 Crazyfists
10. Killswitch Engage

in 2 weeks be at my festival of choice here in UK....yes ill be seeing these epic headliners
here line up- http://www.downloadfestival.co.uk/lineup/index.aspx

last year was imense got to see Dir En Grey do first ever UK festival

 

[BBB Banana]

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Who in here listens to Rob Zombie? And if you do listen to him what do you think of John5 joining him?

 

[Arrogance]

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I just started listening to Rob Zombie because I was planning to go to Rockstar Mayhem Festival this summer where he is headlining with Korn. I just got into him and don't know all his music yet but I'm liking it. So I don't know how big the impact of him joining would be but it is something I am curious about and am looking forward to seeing/hearing.

 

[BBB Banana]

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Wow guys I just came back from one of the most epic shows ever (for me)

I've seen a brazilian band called sofly, they were pretty good and full of energy.

Then Motorhead and I got pretty worried because they played one song and the equipement failed but they came in a few minutes.

There was also Megadeth wich was the main reason I went to the festival.

And lastly Ramstein who were headlining the event It was cool but I'm not really a fan (and I don't think they should be headlining whit such legends on stage)

 

[Arrogance]

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Wow guys I just came back from one of the most epic shows ever (for me)

I've seen a brazilian band called sofly, they were pretty good and full of energy.

Then Motorhead and I got pretty worried because they played one song and the equipement failed but they came in a few minutes.

There was also Megadeth wich was the main reason I went to the festival.

And lastly Ramstein who were headlining the event It was cool but I'm not really a fan (and I don't think they should be headlining whit such legends on stage)

RAMMSTEIN!!!! I'm jealous!!!!

I'm in America so Rammstein doesn't tour here so I'm really disappointed. Personally I would have rather seen Rammstein over Megadeth. I know they are a huge band but I'm just not that into them. Overall it would have been a cool show to see either way with all the big names that were there. Lucky Bastard . lol

 

[DanielKnoT]

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What festival was that? Download festival??? Rock am Ring?

And RAMMSTEIN???.. That is the only band that I havent see yet live.. Those guys are amazing, specially with the pyrotechnics....

Look

 

[Arrogance]

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Hahaha, I know man. The Pyrotechnics are NUTS!. Other than the music thats another reason why I'm dying to see them. This one is also one of my favorites . Rammstein - Rammstein (Live)

 

[BBB Banana]

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It was in Rock in Rio Lisbon sometimes they do have good band and this was one of those times XD

Yeah I only know a few songs from ramstein and that's why I couldn't enjoy it to the maximum but I'll check some more stuff from them since I liked the show.

 

[Arrogance]

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Does anyone here listen to Heaven Shall Burn? This one song is so freakin epic by them! I need to share it with everyone! lol. Check it out guys and let me know what you think . Heaven Shall Burn - Endzeit (with Awoken Intro)

 

[DanielKnoT]

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Man that is SICK!!!

I never hear that band before... The drums are amazing..

It makes me wanna break something

 

[Arrogance]

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Yea man! Its really epic. It goes nicely with Chimaira. Two bands that really rock the house. Like I go driving with my friend sometimes whose got these awesome sub woofers. You figure most people with those blast rap, but man we blast metal. The double bass is just so intense and shakes everything. This is just one of the best songs for that. In general I love this song. I'm never not in the mood for it either, lol. Vocals are nuts, the implementation of the piano is crazy, the whole thing is just epic!