Games Mafia Game 100 - End Game

Lambu · Feb 20, 2022

Actually, brainstorming a bit just thought about the possibility of this being a "secondary fest" too, like several traitors and even lovers for the laughs. If thats the case we might not be able to trust beyond our own shadow.

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Shad said:
I'm not complaining just want to point out that this new pole doesn't allow us to see who changed their vote and when, meaning people can in some cases switch votes and get away with it.

I take it Hosts can just screenshot the poll at the set time. Any further changes will be not accounted for.

Tatsumaki · Feb 20, 2022

Hello there !
I'm so happy to be in game 100 ! It might be tight on my schedule but I couldn't not play in this important milestone. Also I think my first game was exactly one year ago ?
Anyway everyone has so many game under the belt and here I am with my rank E lmao.

Shad · Feb 20, 2022

Lambu said:
I take it Hosts can just screenshot the poll at the set time. Any further changes will be not accounted for.

The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

Tatsumaki · Feb 20, 2022

Even whitout counting secondary roles, aren't there a few roles that are "townie" at first sight then change into something else ? Like sleeper yes but Jesus too no ?

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Shad said:
The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

Good point.

Lambu · Feb 20, 2022

Shad said:
The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

Ah but thats the point of the system, you cannot see the changes in real time through the posts so people have to agree vocally on their vote, else its completely random and untraceable.

Ngl the common trend is not very different to this system, we just dont see the order in which they happen.

Marmalade · Feb 20, 2022

Shad said:
The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

I suppose we could make our own notes of who voted who, but if there is a lot of switching (considering we can change our votes with no limit) - means it'd be nearly impossible to catch all changes.

Shad · Feb 20, 2022

Lambu said:
Ah but thats the point of the system, you cannot see the changes in real time through the posts so people have to agree vocally on their vote, else its completely random and untraceable.

Ngl the common trend is not very different to this system, we just dont see the order in which they happen.

I think this system was chosen to reduce host's workload, which is fair and I have nothing against that (I want the host to have a good time).

MarmaladeSky said:
I suppose we could make our own notes of who voted who, but if there is a lot of switching (considering we can change our votes with no limit) - means it'd be nearly impossible to catch all changes.

Yes! it would be impossible to track it manually.
Working on it, I will write a script that saves this info every ~30 minutes and maybe every 5 minutes in the last hour and make an interface for everybody to be able to see the history for night phase analysis.

We usually catch mafia with vote change, without it we are at a disadvantage!

Farfalla · Feb 20, 2022

Yeah idk I'm just checking the votes here and there and taking notes. Will ask questions later on.

Copy Panda · Feb 20, 2022

Shad said:
@Copy Panda sorry to disturb you but:

Does Mafia Member means vanilla mafia (equivalent of townie) or it is just a generic term that refers to any mafia member like it is used in the rules thread?

option 1!

Lambu · Feb 20, 2022

Actually we should rephrase the question

@Copy Panda are secondary roles capable of holding primary roles? Or are they the ones collected in the Rules thread?

Imma place my vote on Marm for starters, gut feeling. Will keep playing tomorrow o/

Shad · Feb 21, 2022

Voting Marm since I need somebody with multiple vote to test something, won't keep my vote just for testing.

Copy Panda · Feb 21, 2022

Lambu said:
Actually we should rephrase the question

@Copy Panda are secondary roles capable of holding primary roles? Or are they the ones collected in the Rules thread?

Imma place my vote on Marm for starters, gut feeling. Will keep playing tomorrow o/

Secondaries refer to the listed roles only! (so no PGO shenanigans '-')

Shad · Feb 21, 2022

Recording votes currently, hopefully it works all night while I sleep.

Moved my placeholder vote to DD, don't want to scare marm tomorrow as she wakes up with 2 votes xD

Night.

Erinyes · Feb 21, 2022

Pirate has more chance to steal a non role or to target a mafia than to steal one of the 2 valuable roles :grumble

Asako · Feb 21, 2022

Yea the fact there a secondary role mention means that there definitely a traitor

But well, honestly happy about the game being vanilla, been wanting a pure one like this for a while, even considered hosting one but wanted to play it more than host it

Also love the avatar, nostalgic effect

SirSamuel016 · Feb 21, 2022

Shad said:
The poll is set to close automatically, so that not the issue.

The issue is that there is no history for vote change, meaning people could vote X then switch to Y in the last few minutes of a day, and unless we are all refreshing we won't see it.

That's a concern I have too, you can still see who voted for who at the end of it all but without someone actively keeping track any changes could be missed in the heat of a day's last moments.

Farfalla · Feb 21, 2022

Rly think that traitor is the obvious conclusion and am wondering about other things like the lovers one lmao.

Pirate could "recycle" the hoe or doc role if they get compromised, but that's not something easy to do, would be exciting nevertheless. But since I'm paranoid about lovers now 8D maybe that could be it~ A pirate and sleeper duo that gains power over time!