Games Mafia Game 108 - Mob Psycho 100 (75%)

[Crescent Jinx]

This is on discord but will put here too.

 

[Farfalla]

Btw Farf, chances you get killed next are pretty high, so I suggest you share all you want to share before day ends regarding other people. Them getting Evil as soon as his PGO went away could repeat with you.

I'm aware and been speaking my mind almost always o/ Too rushy during the day but can leave my comments on all players before going to bed. Unfiltered~

 

[Raven]

Votekill Shijima.

For the record, I do this because Grysun made me reread something i misunderstood so thats his present.

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Will lock at the end of day phase.

 

[digitaldude]

Is it a copy of last game or is shijima actually a mafia. hmmm

 

[Holt]

It wouldn't have changed anything in regards to the 4 people that were voting me, Evil and Baka would've found fault in it at the time for sure, so why bother. If I survive this way mafia still doesn't know what I am and if it's worth blocking or killing. Minor but it's something.

I had the Kato idea an hour or so before end when the goonsquad was forming and it was getting painfully obvious what the final votecount was gonna look like. So yeah, if no more people were voting Baka or Shijima I was eyeing tasty Kato. Don't see anything wrong with that.

That’s presumptuous, because at the end of the day, you did not claim. You didn’t lay all your cards out, and you can’t say they would’ve done x or y when you didn’t do so. And it’s not like you weren’t asked, you just said you won’t, and you even told Raven’s club to simply lynch because you won’t cooperate, and then turned around to lock Kato last second to save yourself. So why make it seem like you were in such a helpless position?

Additionally, let’s face it, you’re a prime lynch target, there is little worth in wasting a kill on you at night from mafia pov. So like you said, it was minor, and certainly not important enough for you to bail out using Kato.

You had the Kato idea and intentionally kept it to yourself to pull off in the last second. There’s definitely something wrong with it, even with how you’re saying tasty kato. How is that any different from saying you don’t really care who is lynched as long as it’s not you? And you can’t even say hostkill because lambu was going to sub,

Also, I’m pretty sure you asked DD why he didn’t learn from you. What was the reason for that question?

 

[Marmalade]

Considering going for someone that hasn't hinted yet at this point, but want to think this over more. Shijima maybe, huge part of that is that I feel like this situation is taking a lot of focus right now

@Brandish μ - As you don't want to hint it seems, how would you describe your role? Does it fit your spicy and fiery character? On a scale from 0 - 10 how hot do you think it is? Do you like your role?

@digitaldude You claimed apprentice right? Did you try to learn again from someone last night? Care to share the person you've targeted? Missed it if you already said it

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

Sakura, what do you think about the Shijima inconsistency?

What are my inconsistencies?

 

[Farfalla]

Mhmh, if there really are two apprentices, do you guys think there would be both a sane and insane one?

Also, if we have 2 mafias, what are the thoughts on Wojak saying 5 names? Cause if we're to believe in it, then with Jinx confirming the potato passes as prio3 and then since Evil would have had to be James killer, we go back to 1 scum party in game (someone had the wrong math before for this case) . But 5 seems too small for a single mafia party, so there would be either recruits or some TP we couldn't spot yet.

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

mkay, then I'll lay off Gry for now as well. Gonna go check shijima.

Rest assured and you can check me out because I'm not scum or anything else from the mafia that they accuse me of.

 

[Farfalla]

What are my inconsistencies?

The ones you replied to alrdy. You asked me if there were roles besides "townie", then corrected Evil on a role you didn't have.
You also didn't reply to me if not knowing there are other roles in the game besides "townie" meant you were townie now once again.

 

[GrySun]

That’s presumptuous, because at the end of the day, you did not claim. You didn’t lay all your cards out, and you can’t say they would’ve done x or y when you didn’t do so. And it’s not like you weren’t asked, you just said you won’t, and you even told Raven’s club to simply lynch because you won’t cooperate, and then turned around to lock Kato last second to save yourself. So why make it seem like you were in such a helpless position?

Additionally, let’s face it, you’re a prime lynch target, there is little worth in wasting a kill on you at night from mafia pov. So like you said, it was minor, and certainly not important enough for you to bail out using Kato.

You had the Kato idea and intentionally kept it to yourself to pull off in the last second. There’s definitely something wrong with it, even with how you’re saying tasty kato. How is that any different from saying you don’t really care who is lynched as long as it’s not you? And you can’t even say hostkill because lambu was going to sub,

Also, I’m pretty sure you asked DD why he didn’t learn from you. What was the reason for that question?

Are you mafia Holt? Your entire post is grasping for straws and making up words I didn‘t say then responding to them.
Nowhere did I say I would‘ve done x or y, but saying why I did what I did, which was your question before.
Again, what makes you think claiming would‘ve changed something with my 4 voters? As for everyone else, they either voted sakura or scattered votes aimlessly, and many never even voted. You are pretending that because I didn‘t claim I got into lynchable state, which just means you barely paid attention D2 since none of your teammates were in trouble and are just making stuff up here.

Yes which is why I said „block or kill“, yet you only focus on the kill part because you can attach yourself to that and argue something, and ignore the blocking.

People needed a heads up that a townie will lynch afk unknown guy over themselves? Who knew.

Really poor post Holt. May curse you next night if I survive.

The reason for the question to DD was because I hinted a role I like, which usually means either killing related or staying-alive related, yet he didn‘t care to go for that and went for.. Demon that just hinted active role

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I actually feel this is mafia Holt and an easy lynch

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LOL Farf liked that Holt post which is riddled with mistakes and mafia play. Plot thickens?

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Holt misrepresented and twisted like 70% of his arguments in 1 post, legit impressive.

 

[Holt]

holt did you ever say who you learned from?

Didn’t and wouldn’t. I only said I didn’t learn N1, I did use on N2 tho.

Kinda rly wanted to read more from Holt... Basically because often I rly like how he puts things... this late-game pattern can be a bit annoying.

I’m trying to make sense of things, tho admittedly I’m still not really warmed up yet. It’s a very rough start but it’s technically kinda early mid-game rn.

On Wojak- tbh that was quite an elaborate ploy he has, however, he said he has previous MG experience even tho not here. Unless I’m mixing up the phases, I think he already showed signs of cooking something up on D1. I also think it’d be too risky for his mafia team to advice him with such a play due to its complexity and the recent traitor/lover antics. Make me believe he’s genuine tbh.

Shijima- I’m not opposed to lynching him, but I think this is also a lazy lynch. Since it’s more due to his lack of cooperation and general play style, which already has precedence for being the same even as town. Tbh, feels more effort can be put into a better lynch.

I mentioned my gripes with Gry earlier. Tbh, the little(?) things are stacking a bit too much for my liking. For other potential lynches- I’m not too sold on double apprentices. Even if I were to consider insanity, Wojak claiming traitor complicates things (naive or not). Also not sold on the VT and Banshee. Didn’t we have some pairs last game too? I feel Jinx would want more of her own spin on the game. Also kinda why I’d buy no lovers or recruits for mafia.

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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For the zillionese time as well btw:



@digitaldude @Raven @GB @Baka Taichou
Please tell me how you perceive a person who doesn't know other roles besides townie exist but can differ a specific role (doctor) from it.

Whoelse has been online as well

Has this become my inconsistency or is it a reason for you to play people against me?
I spoke to Evil that in my FIRST GAME I was Townie and not Doctor because she said I was a doctor. I understood that at least.
I just wanted confirmation of what was active, but if you look at it the other way, that's fine. ALL VOTE FOR ME TO END THIS SAME.

 

[Kat]

Sorry Farf-who I didn't see it before, I thought I was missing some context but I filtered the posts now and I see what you meant. In case somebody else needs to see it, here:

I find it difficult to distinguish who is really telling the truth or not about their functions. The only one revealed his function was to Gry and only./think

When someone says they are active does it mean that they have a role other than being a simple citizen of the city?
I couldn't comment because I was busy and trying to get off my phone to do my homework.
I only liked the good and sensible comments in the majority.

I was never a Doctor I was a Townie

That does indeed look like it could be a slip-up. Pretending to know less than they actually know. That's a good catch, I would have missed it.

So once again @ShijimaTheSilentMan it is really time to say something for your case. Most of us revealed, so don't be shy and give us something to work with. I already asked you a question today and you ignored me, so just speak please.

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

Why should you get away with your absence?

Like this?

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@Raven @Kat @GrySun @Farfalla @Holt @Brandish μ @GB @digitaldude @ShijimaTheSilentMan @wojak @Erinyes
who would you vote for lynch today? and why?

I insist on GrySun. However feel free to vote for me as I have become a suspect.

 

[Holt]

Are you mafia Holt? Your entire post is grasping for straws and making up words I didn‘t say then responding to them.
Nowhere did I say I would‘ve done x or y, but saying why I did what I did, which was your question before.
Again, what makes you think claiming would‘ve changed something with my 4 voters? As for everyone else, they either voted sakura or scattered votes aimlessly, and many never even voted. You are pretending that because I didn‘t claim I got into lynchable state, which just means you barely paid attention D2 since none of your teammates were in trouble and are just making stuff up here.

Yes which is why I said „block or kill“, yet you only focus on the kill part because you can attach yourself to that and argue something, and ignore the blocking.

People needed a heads up that a townie will lynch afk unknown guy over themselves? Who knew.

Really poor post Holt. May curse you next night if I survive.

The reason for the question to DD was because I hinted a role I like, which usually means either killing related or staying-alive related, yet he didn‘t care to go for that and went for.. Demon that just hinted active role

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I actually feel this is mafia Holt and an easy lynch

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LOL Farf liked that Holt post which is riddled with mistakes and mafia play. Plot thickens?

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Holt misrepresented and twisted like 70% of his arguments in 1 post, legit impressive.

You’re too eager to confront. I said you can’t assume Evil and others would or wouldn’t have reacted in a different manner IF you had claimed. That’s what I mean by x or y, because you’re saying you didn’t claim because it wouldn’t matter.

Secondly, I didn’t say you got into that position because you didn’t claim. I’m saying you didn’t claim despite being in that position, even when you were asked. You say what makes me think claiming would’ve changed anything, I say what makes you think it wouldn’t have ? Because it’s rather normal for someone on the ropes to claim, and if they don’t, they pretty much accept what will be, because it’s as good as saying you won’t cooperate even at the risk of lynch.

And you considered yourself to be worth blocking by yesterday? There were more people to mess with, since you were already in a tight spot, which is my point.

You’re grossly simplifying my point, which was that you would rather go for an easy lynch than claim when you were on the spot. And the afk bit is just pure nonsense because he didn’t show up at any point and was already going to get subbed. That’s a very separate case from selectively playing and be intentionally afk.

A role you like is extremely vague, and also very subjective. How is your hint in any better position? It’s even worse in hindsight with your reveal that you would even expect him to have gone for you. Especially when you were already being suspected for your potato reveal on D1.

And yes, of course it’s extremely bad and poor play. Like you kept hammering on Evil while he went at you

 

[Farfalla]

LOL Farf liked that Holt post which is riddled with mistakes and mafia play. Plot thickens?

This feels like D1 on your issue with Evil '-'
You write as if I'm appreciating everything that's in that post as well but presenting that conclusion is on you, legitly or not. I do agree I don't see why you keep a Banshee hidden when someone is directly asking you, not toward the end when the train is alrdy on full speed but when DD revealed and Evil asked you. Could have prevented you to get to that point at the end of the day. But again, this feels like day 1 lmao, every time you do something odd, like wanting to erase the PGO on N3 or saying that if Evil killed James we still have 2 scums, I'm quite lenient cause I think you're better around if people don't get dirt on you specially when I'm still hoping for investigations, and cause I know we diverge in thoughts on a decent amount. But wtv small bit I do that displeases you get you to react with intensity. You sure you want me to say everything I'd want before I'm possibly night killed or will you be as reactive toward anything?

 

[ShijimaTheSilentMan]

ah yeah forgot shijima lol

distrusting me again Erin?

 

[Farfalla]

On Wojak- tbh that was quite an elaborate ploy he has, however, he said he has previous MG experience even tho not here.

That's not an excuse imo, our game is very particular, and our quite different sent of rules and details is lengthy.

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Shijima- I’m not opposed to lynching him, but I think this is also a lazy lynch. Since it’s more due to his lack of cooperation and general play style, which already has precedence for being the same even as town. Tbh, feels more effort can be put into a better lynch.

Rly? You feel like that after the several repeated posts I've made on his posts, without even addressing that specifically?

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Also kinda why I’d buy no lovers or recruits for mafia.

You won't buy recruits but buy Wojaks claim of a 5 members team in a game that possibly had only 1 scum kill per night with 19 players and a town with several killing options?

 

[GrySun]

This feels like D1 on your issue with Evil '-'
You write as if I'm appreciating everything that's in that post as well but presenting that conclusion is on you, legitly or not. I do agree I don't see why you keep a Banshee hidden when someone is directly asking you, not toward the end when the train is alrdy on full speed but when DD revealed and Evil asked you. Could have prevented you to get to that point at the end of the day. But again, this feels like day 1 lmao, every time you do something odd, like wanting to erase the PGO on N3 or saying that if Evil killed James we still have 2 scums, I'm quite lenient cause I think you're better around if people don't get dirt on you specially when I'm still hoping for investigations, and cause I know we diverge in thoughts on a decent amount. But wtv small bit I do that displeases you get you to react with intensity. You sure you want me to say everything I'd want before I'm possibly night killed or will you be as reactive toward anything?

Vague likes without context or wording your thoughts leaves it to my interpretation.

 

[Farfalla]

Vague likes without context or wording your thoughts leaves it to my interpretation.

I just said I'm rushing, Marcie. The unpatience and conclusions are still yours, I can get to things when asked - which you can easily do - and leave lengthy stuff to a comfortable time like I had just recently replied to you I would.

If it matters then, got pilates in 10mins then won't reply for 1h.